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No more bad posting
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 13 2013 21:16 GMT
#4801
On August 14 2013 06:07 sylverfyre wrote:
I would repharase that to "complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the procrastinators and the people who don't read the fine print."

It's not really a complicated web. You set it up you get RP, you don't set it up you don't get RP. Pretty similar to rebates.

I am curious if Paypal counts, though I doubt it.

https://www.serve.com/manage-money/#/direct-deposit

It appears that it only covers federal funds and employer paychecks. Federal funds are probably the tax returns mentioned.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 13 2013 21:17 GMT
#4802
I'm in promotion, wish me luck
Writer@WriterYamato
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 13 2013 21:20 GMT
#4803
good luck!
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 21:32:41
August 13 2013 21:28 GMT
#4804
On August 14 2013 04:18 thenexusp wrote:
What advantage would an AD+Armor item have over, say, just getting a bloodthirster plus a randuins? There isn't a rule in lol that says "every item in your inventory shalt have offensive stats"

On August 14 2013 04:25 Seuss wrote:
If they don't want to build health they can always just sit on Chain Vest/Warden's Mail and move on. They're not going to get significantly more armor than that from a hybrid AD/Armor item anyway.

The problem here is that now you have a dead end item. Warden's Mail doesn't build into an AD+armor item, so for certain bruisers you either sit on it forever or finish it into an item that gives stats you don't necessarily want. Same with Chain Vest. Note that that this isn't an issue with MR; there are two good choices for MR+AD, mercurial and maw. And maw has hexdrinker which is an excellent laning item for champs that want AD + MR.

Sure if you fast forward like 8k gold to your end game you have all the armor and AD you want, but it's better to have more options to get the stats that your champ itemizes best off of.

I guess I just want an item like hexdrinker but for armor.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
August 13 2013 21:32 GMT
#4805
On August 14 2013 06:04 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 06:00 Seuss wrote:
2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting.

loooooooooooooool


i'm with grinq here

what am i reading lol
TranslatorBaa!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 13 2013 21:35 GMT
#4806
Aaron Paul is doing an AMA, bitches!

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1kaxje/i_am_aaron_paul_ama/
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 21:44:48
August 13 2013 21:40 GMT
#4807
On August 14 2013 06:28 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 04:18 thenexusp wrote:
What advantage would an AD+Armor item have over, say, just getting a bloodthirster plus a randuins? There isn't a rule in lol that says "every item in your inventory shalt have offensive stats"

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 04:25 Seuss wrote:
If they don't want to build health they can always just sit on Chain Vest/Warden's Mail and move on. They're not going to get significantly more armor than that from a hybrid AD/Armor item anyway.

The problem here is that now you have a dead end item. Warden's Mail doesn't build into an AD+armor item, so for certain bruisers you either sit on it forever or finish it into an item that gives stats you don't necessarily want. Same with Chain Vest. Note that that this isn't an issue with MR; there are two good choices for MR+AD, mercurial and maw. And maw has hexdrinker which is an excellent laning item for champs that want AD + MR.

Sure if you fast forward like 8k gold to your end game you have all the armor and AD you want, but it's better to have more options to get the stats that your champ itemizes best off of.

I guess I just want an item like hexdrinker but for armor.

Again, why does every finished item in your inventory need to have AD+armor? If your ideal full build includes two AD+armor items, you can do just as well with getting a BT+randuins.

And even AD carries will typically get 1 fully defensive item, so I really don't see any case where you'd want some armor but not want a full randuin's for some reason.

(Yes, I know randuin's has health, you can substitute thornmail/FH if you really want to even though randiuns is just so much better in most cases)


I guess what you really want is an AD+armor option that has the insane cost-efficiency of hexdrinker. Hexdrinker isn't good because it has hybrid stats, it's good because the stats are so damn efficient. And I'm not sure a super-efficient armor+AD option would be good for the game.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 13 2013 21:45 GMT
#4808
On August 14 2013 06:28 BlasiuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 04:18 thenexusp wrote:
What advantage would an AD+Armor item have over, say, just getting a bloodthirster plus a randuins? There isn't a rule in lol that says "every item in your inventory shalt have offensive stats"

Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 04:25 Seuss wrote:
If they don't want to build health they can always just sit on Chain Vest/Warden's Mail and move on. They're not going to get significantly more armor than that from a hybrid AD/Armor item anyway.

The problem here is that now you have a dead end item. Warden's Mail doesn't build into an AD+armor item, so for certain bruisers you either sit on it forever or finish it into an item that gives stats you don't necessarily want. Same with Chain Vest.

Sure if you fast forward like 8k gold to your end game you have all the armor and AD you want, but it's better to have more options to get the stats that your champ itemizes best off of.


I disagree with the following premises:
  • It is a problem to have a dead end item.
  • It is a problem to sit on an unfinished item forever.
  • It is better to have more options.


Basically, we have a disagreement at a fundamental level.

I have a couple of questions for you that might help illuminate matters.
  • How much Armor and AD does our hypothetical bruiser need out of their 1465g?
  • Can you name one bruiser for whom Randuin's, GA, Frozen Heart, and Thornmail are suboptimal items?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 13 2013 22:01 GMT
#4809
New Janna skin, to be honest, is better than Spirit Guard. Its like having a blonde April O'Neil.
Freeeeeeedom
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 22:03:50
August 13 2013 22:01 GMT
#4810
On August 14 2013 06:08 Marahumm wrote:
Wood 5 player asking, but how does everyone feel about the Draven Passive change? I know there was a lot of complaining about it way back when, but the more I think about it, the more I feel it could be used to completely bully an enemy player that happens to be feeding. The gold penalty for killing a feeder wouldn't affect Draven nearly as much as anyone else, not to mention focusing the weak link of the group will only produce more toxicity between the enemy team even more. Now that his passive is twice as effective, I think that style of play completely fits his role as a showboating executioner.

It's not twice as effective during the game, just for the first kill really. It's going to put more gold in dravens hands sooner in the game especially in the cases where both players die as long as draven gets the kill first because he won't lose any stacks. To add you your point about killing feeders over and over, as long as draven has plenty of stacks to cash in it's well worth it. It's also better in team fights as seen below:

OLD passive with kill streak:
1st kill = 100 stacks = 150 gold
2nd kill = 50 stacks = 75 gold
3rd kill = 25 stacks = 37.5 gold (total=262.5)

NEW passive with kill streak:
1st kill = 100 stacks = 300 gold
2nd kill = 0 stacks = 0 gold
3rd kill = 0 stacks = 0 gold (total=300)

Essentially if you would steam roll their team with a PENTA you get the same gold only now you only have to get that first kill to score the same amount of gold. It levels out if draven ever falls behind so that he can cash in his stacks to catch up as long as he gets at least 1 kill before dying.

If draven is going 10-0-0 in games then there's really no difference from old to new passive.
If draven is going 5-5-5 in games then its a great buff to keep him from snowballing behind.

This puts more emphasis on getting that first kill in your lane, allowing you to snowball faster!

TL:DR It's a moderate BUFF to his passive, nothing game breaking.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 13 2013 22:04 GMT
#4811
Yi fell into the classic trap of being a viable melee carry. I shoulda known he was gonna get fucked.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 13 2013 22:05 GMT
#4812
So is the new Phage still going to build into only FM and TF?
Forever Young
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 13 2013 22:17 GMT
#4813
On August 14 2013 07:05 sung_moon wrote:
So is the new Phage still going to build into only FM and TF?

Only Triforce.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 13 2013 22:20 GMT
#4814
this pretty much solidifies the Triforce as hot garbage now no?
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 13 2013 22:21 GMT
#4815
On August 14 2013 07:01 cLutZ wrote:
New Janna skin, to be honest, is better than Spirit Guard. Its like having a blonde April O'Neil.


it looks kinda like Rachel, intentional?
Carrilord has arrived.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 13 2013 22:33 GMT
#4816
On August 14 2013 07:04 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yi fell into the classic trap of being a viable melee carry. I shoulda known he was gonna get fucked.

Wat? He's a noob stomper and if you got sufficiently fed could spam Alphas until the other team died. There's nothing particularly interesting there, and he was (and is) super vulnerable to any kind of hard lockdown etc. How is that viable?
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 13 2013 22:34 GMT
#4817
On August 14 2013 07:20 Slusher wrote:
this pretty much solidifies the Triforce as hot garbage now no?


I think this is a bit much to say. If you have an MS advantage on irelia or Jax and get an opening, you can pretty much auto them all the way til they hit tower because of the huge MS disparity. You'll get fewer autos in comparison to a best case scenario phage, but compared to a worse case scenario phage, it's really, really good.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 13 2013 22:43 GMT
#4818
you are forgetting that Triforce now has 0 health
Carrilord has arrived.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 13 2013 22:46 GMT
#4819
On August 14 2013 07:43 Slusher wrote:
you are forgetting that Triforce now has 0 health


change got reverted. It's back to health from armor. Too much backlash I'm assuming.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 22:47:18
August 13 2013 22:46 GMT
#4820
On August 14 2013 07:43 Slusher wrote:
you are forgetting that Triforce now has 0 health

They reverted that. Phage and Trinity Force and back to health.
(Source)

Edit: Ninja'd but at least I have a source!
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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