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On August 14 2013 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:Wait, what? she used to be able to go through walls on her broken wings?
She still can, they just cleaned it up so it only works on the third jump.
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On August 14 2013 05:16 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote: If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit. Any definition I've seen of direct deposit seems to require your employer to deposit the funds. I like the Janna's Zephyr on her legendary, but I don't like her face, her theme, and now her voice. Hmmmm.... It is possible to edit a champion's sound files instead of just their skins as they appear locally.
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Couldn't she only pass thin walls (like the ones delimiting the river, and the trees in front of the wolves)? The summary doesn't say if it now works with all walls or only these, but given Riot's attempts at clarity it's probably all walls, which is a huge buff to Riven's mobility (as if it wasn't stupidly high enough already).
Olaf is... well, I trust Smash, and I know they're trying, but however they may try to change him it looks like he won't feel buffed at all in the end. :/ Meh.
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Hopefully it will be easier, even after practice, I'm still too bad to do jumps reliably to incorporate them as a strategy, except for the easiest wall by dragon that's been possible since forever.
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That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly.
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On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote: Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game. As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places. On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote: If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit. Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation. Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter. It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition: Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit a deposit of money straight from the source into a bank account, by electronic funds transfer, or other means where the payment is initiated by the payer not the payee
Examples of DIRECT DEPOSIT
Our employees are paid by direct deposit.
funds directly from the payer into the bank account of the recipient.
Seriously?
On August 14 2013 05:25 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:On August 14 2013 05:11 Gahlo wrote:Forecast Janna's lines are amazing! http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25394-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-8-13-2013-twitchBroken Wings
Riven's Broken Wings hitbox has been retuned to more closely match the particles Third hit now knocks up targets affected rather than knocking them back Only the third hit can now leap over walls and the skill has been recoded to clean up this mechanic significantlyWHAT WHAT WHAT! Wait, what? she used to be able to go through walls on her broken wings? She still can, they just cleaned it up so it only works on the third jump. Probably made it easier to do now that it is an intentional thing instead of a bug.
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On August 14 2013 05:31 onlywonderboy wrote: That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly. There are people that dislike it?
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On August 14 2013 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:31 onlywonderboy wrote: That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly. There are people that dislike it? One person said they didn't like it so I took this as an opportunity to call out any future haters as well. Gotta cover my bases.
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That Janna skin is wonderful. If I buy any legendary skin thats one of the most likely I'll buy.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote: Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game. As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places. On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote: If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit. Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation. Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter. It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition: Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_depositMerriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct depositFree: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct depositNone of them say anything about paychecks, employers, and the like. Now, if part of the strategy is to entrap cardholders like you say, then these cards are pretty evil and I will express my opinion on the matter to various Riot employees I know. But until the question of "What counts as Direct Deposit?" is answered definitively I'm reserving my judgement.
1) Direct Deposit is most certainly unambiguous. I've literally never heard it used in any other sense. Rest assured this is what they mean.
2) How on earth is this evil? There's no hidden gimmick. They aren't forcing you to do anything. They made you a simple offer: set up recurring payments to us and we'll give you a reward, even if you cancel it immediately thereafter. If you want to sign up and then cancel immediately, they won't (and can't) stop you. The fact that some people are going to be too lazy to cancel it does not really make their business practices evil. Are we evil if we take advantage of the offer and then cancel DD?
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Best change on PBE!
League of Draven ( Passive ) tooltip reads it now consumes ALL stacks on kill.
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On August 14 2013 05:44 GrandInquisitor wrote: 2) How on earth is this evil? There's no hidden gimmick. They aren't forcing you to do anything. They made you a simple offer: set up recurring payments to us and we'll give you a reward, even if you cancel it immediately thereafter. If you want to sign up and then cancel immediately, they won't (and can't) stop you. The fact that some people are going to be too lazy to cancel it does not really make their business practices evil. Are we evil if we take advantage of the offer and then cancel DD? It's like mail-in rebates, especially the ones that give all or almost all of the purchase price back. They rely on a certain percentage of customers to forget or to be too hassled to actually go through the process. Think of it as a reward for being diligent.
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On August 14 2013 05:32 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote: Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game. As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places. On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote: If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit. Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation. Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter. It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition: Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit a deposit of money straight from the source into a bank account, by electronic funds transfer, or other means where the payment is initiated by the payer not the payee Examples of DIRECT DEPOSIT Our employees are paid by direct deposit. funds directly from the payer into the bank account of the recipient. Seriously?
I don't care that there are examples of paychecks going into bank accounts. What matters is whether that's the only type of transfer of funds one can call a direct deposit.
For example, if I transfer money from my bank account (I am the payer) to American Express (the payee), does that count? As far as all three direct deposit definitions are concerned it is, but what matters is the definition as far as American Express is concerned.
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That Janna voice is very awesome, I am really excited for this.
I was wondering do hybrid marks work for a support like Sona?
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On August 14 2013 05:37 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:On August 14 2013 05:31 onlywonderboy wrote: That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly. There are people that dislike it? One person said they didn't like it so I took this as an opportunity to call out any future haters as well. Gotta cover my bases. I'm not saying it doesn't fit, I'm saying I don't like it. Just because she does the newscaster voice well doesn't mean I like that newscaster voice whenever I execute a move or an ability.
Still, it's pretty minor and I don't remember a lot of voices anyway.
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On August 14 2013 05:32 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote: Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game. As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places. On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote: If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit. Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation. Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter. It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition: Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit a deposit of money straight from the source into a bank account, by electronic funds transfer, or other means where the payment is initiated by the payer not the payee Examples of DIRECT DEPOSIT Our employees are paid by direct deposit. funds directly from the payer into the bank account of the recipient. Seriously?
I don't care that there are examples of paychecks going into bank accounts. What matters is whether that's the only type of transfer of funds one can call a direct deposit.
For example, if I transfer money from my bank account (I am the payer) to American Express (the payee), does that count? As far as all three direct deposit definitions are concerned it is, but what matters is the definition as far as American Express is concerned.
On August 14 2013 05:44 GrandInquisitor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote: Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game. As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places. On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote: If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit. Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation. Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter. It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition: Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_depositMerriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct depositFree: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct depositNone of them say anything about paychecks, employers, and the like. Now, if part of the strategy is to entrap cardholders like you say, then these cards are pretty evil and I will express my opinion on the matter to various Riot employees I know. But until the question of "What counts as Direct Deposit?" is answered definitively I'm reserving my judgement. 1) Direct Deposit is most certainly unambiguous. I've literally never heard it used in any other sense. Rest assured this is what they mean. 2) How on earth is this evil? There's no hidden gimmick. They aren't forcing you to do anything. They made you a simple offer: set up recurring payments to us and we'll give you a reward, even if you cancel it immediately thereafter. If you want to sign up and then cancel immediately, they won't (and can't) stop you. The fact that some people are going to be too lazy to cancel it does not really make their business practices evil. Are we evil if we take advantage of the offer and then cancel DD?
1) You can find it in the context of a lot of other things if you search, such as tax refunds and paypal. It may be most commonly associated with paychecks, but it isn't clear to me that it is quite that specific.
2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On August 14 2013 06:00 Seuss wrote: 2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting. loooooooooooooool
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I would repharase that to "complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the procrastinators and the people who don't read the fine print."
Setting up a regular direct-deposit for a prepaid CC really doesn't seem like that terrible of an idea ANYWAY, though. If I had teenage kids [who played LoL, in this case], I would probably get something like this for them so they can have a card usable like a credit/debit card but with a limited amount of money.
I get my Tax Refund direct deposited to me every year. It's just them dumping it into my bank account instead of handing me a paper check which I then have to deposit myself. In this case it's pretty crystal clear that setting up a recurring DD into the account of a prepaid card is simply having an automatic transaction each month deduct money from one account and put it into another. These prepaid CC's all work roughly the same way anyway - it's just a mini-bank-account with a card attached.
On August 14 2013 05:59 captharlock wrote: That Janna voice is very awesome, I am really excited for this.
I was wondering do hybrid marks work for a support like Sona? I love hybrid marks on sona/lulu. Delicious damage. To make up for lost durability for not running Armor marks, run some flat health Quints (which are better for durability anyway!)
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Wood 5 player asking, but how does everyone feel about the Draven Passive change? I know there was a lot of complaining about it way back when, but the more I think about it, the more I feel it could be used to completely bully an enemy player that happens to be feeding. The gold penalty for killing a feeder wouldn't affect Draven nearly as much as anyone else, not to mention focusing the weak link of the group will only produce more toxicity between the enemy team even more. Now that his passive is twice as effective, I think that style of play completely fits his role as a showboating executioner.
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On August 14 2013 06:00 Seuss wrote: 2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting. Eh. I guess you could call it a trap, but honestly I really like the mail-in rebate comparison made by thenexusp. Sure, if you don't cancel it then you will continue to have the direct deposit into the card, which you may not want. But the money isn't disappearing so to speak. You can still continue to use the card + the money deposited onto the card. Additionally, this isn't a credit card; that is, there's no fees or debts or interest rates you need to worry about. I've had one of these (or something very similar) AMex cards before. It's basically like a gift card - debit card - checking account combo. You essentially create a faux checking account with AMex which you access and use with the card.
Besides, we don't have any confirmation of exactly what kind of direct deposit they're talking about. (At least I haven't seen any confirmation). It could be employer direct deposit or it could be direct deposit from your own accounts.
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