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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 20:25:39
August 13 2013 20:25 GMT
#4781
On August 14 2013 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:11 Gahlo wrote:
Forecast Janna's lines are amazing!
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25394-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-8-13-2013-twitch

Broken Wings

Riven's Broken Wings hitbox has been retuned to more closely match the particles
Third hit now knocks up targets affected rather than knocking them back
Only the third hit can now leap over walls and the skill has been recoded to clean up this mechanic significantly


WHAT WHAT WHAT!

Wait, what? she used to be able to go through walls on her broken wings?


She still can, they just cleaned it up so it only works on the third jump.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 13 2013 20:27 GMT
#4782
On August 14 2013 05:16 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote:
If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit.

Any definition I've seen of direct deposit seems to require your employer to deposit the funds.

I like the Janna's Zephyr on her legendary, but I don't like her face, her theme, and now her voice.

Hmmmm....

It is possible to edit a champion's sound files instead of just their skins as they appear locally.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 13 2013 20:29 GMT
#4783
Couldn't she only pass thin walls (like the ones delimiting the river, and the trees in front of the wolves)? The summary doesn't say if it now works with all walls or only these, but given Riot's attempts at clarity it's probably all walls, which is a huge buff to Riven's mobility (as if it wasn't stupidly high enough already).

Olaf is... well, I trust Smash, and I know they're trying, but however they may try to change him it looks like he won't feel buffed at all in the end. :/ Meh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
August 13 2013 20:29 GMT
#4784
Hopefully it will be easier, even after practice, I'm still too bad to do jumps reliably to incorporate them as a strategy, except for the easiest wall by dragon that's been possible since forever.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 13 2013 20:31 GMT
#4785
That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 20:34:22
August 13 2013 20:32 GMT
#4786
On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game.

As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places.

On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote:
If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit.

Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation.

Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter.


It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition:

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit

a deposit of money straight from the source into a bank account, by electronic funds transfer, or other means where the payment is initiated by the payer not the payee

Merriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct deposit

Examples of DIRECT DEPOSIT

Our employees are paid by direct deposit.

Free: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct deposit

funds directly from the payer into the bank account of the recipient.

Seriously?

On August 14 2013 05:25 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 14 2013 05:11 Gahlo wrote:
Forecast Janna's lines are amazing!
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25394-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-8-13-2013-twitch

Broken Wings

Riven's Broken Wings hitbox has been retuned to more closely match the particles
Third hit now knocks up targets affected rather than knocking them back
Only the third hit can now leap over walls and the skill has been recoded to clean up this mechanic significantly


WHAT WHAT WHAT!

Wait, what? she used to be able to go through walls on her broken wings?


She still can, they just cleaned it up so it only works on the third jump.

Probably made it easier to do now that it is an intentional thing instead of a bug.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 13 2013 20:35 GMT
#4787
On August 14 2013 05:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly.

There are people that dislike it?
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 13 2013 20:37 GMT
#4788
On August 14 2013 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly.

There are people that dislike it?

One person said they didn't like it so I took this as an opportunity to call out any future haters as well. Gotta cover my bases.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
August 13 2013 20:41 GMT
#4789
That Janna skin is wonderful. If I buy any legendary skin thats one of the most likely I'll buy.
Welcome to the Durst-Zone
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 20:48:07
August 13 2013 20:44 GMT
#4790
On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game.

As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places.

On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote:
If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit.

Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation.

Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter.


It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition:

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit
Merriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct deposit
Free: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct deposit

None of them say anything about paychecks, employers, and the like.

Now, if part of the strategy is to entrap cardholders like you say, then these cards are pretty evil and I will express my opinion on the matter to various Riot employees I know. But until the question of "What counts as Direct Deposit?" is answered definitively I'm reserving my judgement.


1) Direct Deposit is most certainly unambiguous. I've literally never heard it used in any other sense. Rest assured this is what they mean.

2) How on earth is this evil? There's no hidden gimmick. They aren't forcing you to do anything. They made you a simple offer: set up recurring payments to us and we'll give you a reward, even if you cancel it immediately thereafter. If you want to sign up and then cancel immediately, they won't (and can't) stop you. The fact that some people are going to be too lazy to cancel it does not really make their business practices evil. Are we evil if we take advantage of the offer and then cancel DD?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#4791
Best change on PBE!

League of Draven ( Passive ) tooltip reads it now consumes ALL stacks on kill.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 20:50:48
August 13 2013 20:50 GMT
#4792
On August 14 2013 05:44 GrandInquisitor wrote:
2) How on earth is this evil? There's no hidden gimmick. They aren't forcing you to do anything. They made you a simple offer: set up recurring payments to us and we'll give you a reward, even if you cancel it immediately thereafter. If you want to sign up and then cancel immediately, they won't (and can't) stop you. The fact that some people are going to be too lazy to cancel it does not really make their business practices evil. Are we evil if we take advantage of the offer and then cancel DD?

It's like mail-in rebates, especially the ones that give all or almost all of the purchase price back. They rely on a certain percentage of customers to forget or to be too hassled to actually go through the process. Think of it as a reward for being diligent.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 13 2013 20:52 GMT
#4793
On August 14 2013 05:32 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:
On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game.

As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places.

On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote:
If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit.

Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation.

Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter.


It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition:

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit

a deposit of money straight from the source into a bank account, by electronic funds transfer, or other means where the payment is initiated by the payer not the payee

Show nested quote +
Merriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct deposit

Examples of DIRECT DEPOSIT

Our employees are paid by direct deposit.

Show nested quote +
Free: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct deposit

funds directly from the payer into the bank account of the recipient.

Seriously?


I don't care that there are examples of paychecks going into bank accounts. What matters is whether that's the only type of transfer of funds one can call a direct deposit.

For example, if I transfer money from my bank account (I am the payer) to American Express (the payee), does that count? As far as all three direct deposit definitions are concerned it is, but what matters is the definition as far as American Express is concerned.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
August 13 2013 20:59 GMT
#4794
That Janna voice is very awesome, I am really excited for this.

I was wondering do hybrid marks work for a support like Sona?
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#4795
On August 14 2013 05:37 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 14 2013 05:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
That Janna voice is amazing, haters gonna hate. It fits so perfectly.

There are people that dislike it?

One person said they didn't like it so I took this as an opportunity to call out any future haters as well. Gotta cover my bases.

I'm not saying it doesn't fit, I'm saying I don't like it. Just because she does the newscaster voice well doesn't mean I like that newscaster voice whenever I execute a move or an ability.

Still, it's pretty minor and I don't remember a lot of voices anyway.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 21:01:39
August 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#4796
On August 14 2013 05:32 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:
On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game.

As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places.

On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote:
If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit.

Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation.

Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter.


It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition:

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit

a deposit of money straight from the source into a bank account, by electronic funds transfer, or other means where the payment is initiated by the payer not the payee

Show nested quote +
Merriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct deposit

Examples of DIRECT DEPOSIT

Our employees are paid by direct deposit.

Show nested quote +
Free: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct deposit

funds directly from the payer into the bank account of the recipient.

Seriously?


I don't care that there are examples of paychecks going into bank accounts. What matters is whether that's the only type of transfer of funds one can call a direct deposit.

For example, if I transfer money from my bank account (I am the payer) to American Express (the payee), does that count? As far as all three direct deposit definitions are concerned it is, but what matters is the definition as far as American Express is concerned.

On August 14 2013 05:44 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2013 05:24 Seuss wrote:
On August 14 2013 05:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
On August 14 2013 04:18 Ryuu314 wrote:
Honestly, this can only be a good thing for League. AMex is pretty mainstream as far as things goes and having AMex sponsor/support League will only help the game.

As a general rule Amex cards offer better rewards than Visa precisely because Amex is not as mainstream. They charge higher merchant fees (and most of their credit cards also carry annual fees), so they are accepted at fewer places.

On August 14 2013 05:11 Seuss wrote:
If I can do a one time deposit from my bank account I'll happily pick up a card, get the 12-13k RP, and then never use it again. My concern at the moment is that the legal mumbo jumbo isn't clear as to what constitutes a direct deposit.

Direct Deposit is pretty unambiguous. It means getting your employer to deposit your paycheck (or a portion of it) directly to the card. It doesn't really lend itself to any other interpretation.

Amex offers a huge reward for setting that up because most people hate dealing with direct deposit. Amex is betting that some non-negligible portion of those who set up DD are going to forget or neglect to cancel it immediately thereafter.


It seems pretty ambiguous to me. This is what you get when you try to find a definition:

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_deposit
Merriam-Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/direct deposit
Free: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direct deposit

None of them say anything about paychecks, employers, and the like.

Now, if part of the strategy is to entrap cardholders like you say, then these cards are pretty evil and I will express my opinion on the matter to various Riot employees I know. But until the question of "What counts as Direct Deposit?" is answered definitively I'm reserving my judgement.


1) Direct Deposit is most certainly unambiguous. I've literally never heard it used in any other sense. Rest assured this is what they mean.

2) How on earth is this evil? There's no hidden gimmick. They aren't forcing you to do anything. They made you a simple offer: set up recurring payments to us and we'll give you a reward, even if you cancel it immediately thereafter. If you want to sign up and then cancel immediately, they won't (and can't) stop you. The fact that some people are going to be too lazy to cancel it does not really make their business practices evil. Are we evil if we take advantage of the offer and then cancel DD?


1) You can find it in the context of a lot of other things if you search, such as tax refunds and paypal. It may be most commonly associated with paychecks, but it isn't clear to me that it is quite that specific.

2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 13 2013 21:04 GMT
#4797
On August 14 2013 06:00 Seuss wrote:
2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting.

loooooooooooooool
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 21:11:33
August 13 2013 21:07 GMT
#4798
I would repharase that to "complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the procrastinators and the people who don't read the fine print."

Setting up a regular direct-deposit for a prepaid CC really doesn't seem like that terrible of an idea ANYWAY, though. If I had teenage kids [who played LoL, in this case], I would probably get something like this for them so they can have a card usable like a credit/debit card but with a limited amount of money.

I get my Tax Refund direct deposited to me every year. It's just them dumping it into my bank account instead of handing me a paper check which I then have to deposit myself. In this case it's pretty crystal clear that setting up a recurring DD into the account of a prepaid card is simply having an automatic transaction each month deduct money from one account and put it into another. These prepaid CC's all work roughly the same way anyway - it's just a mini-bank-account with a card attached.

On August 14 2013 05:59 captharlock wrote:
That Janna voice is very awesome, I am really excited for this.

I was wondering do hybrid marks work for a support like Sona?

I love hybrid marks on sona/lulu. Delicious damage. To make up for lost durability for not running Armor marks, run some flat health Quints (which are better for durability anyway!)
Marahumm
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States98 Posts
August 13 2013 21:08 GMT
#4799
Wood 5 player asking, but how does everyone feel about the Draven Passive change? I know there was a lot of complaining about it way back when, but the more I think about it, the more I feel it could be used to completely bully an enemy player that happens to be feeding. The gold penalty for killing a feeder wouldn't affect Draven nearly as much as anyone else, not to mention focusing the weak link of the group will only produce more toxicity between the enemy team even more. Now that his passive is twice as effective, I think that style of play completely fits his role as a showboating executioner.
Looks like you mashed some poor fellers dog, Sarge.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 13 2013 21:12 GMT
#4800
On August 14 2013 06:00 Seuss wrote:
2) If it really is that specific, it is its own hidden gimmick. It's a hassle to set up a direct deposit with your employer, especially if you want it to be a one time thing, a partial amount, or simply then and back again. The fact that the bulk of the reward would come from setting up a direct deposit (10k RP) would not be innocent. It's a trap and part of the complicated web of financial shenanigans that preys on the poor and unsuspecting.

Eh. I guess you could call it a trap, but honestly I really like the mail-in rebate comparison made by thenexusp. Sure, if you don't cancel it then you will continue to have the direct deposit into the card, which you may not want. But the money isn't disappearing so to speak. You can still continue to use the card + the money deposited onto the card. Additionally, this isn't a credit card; that is, there's no fees or debts or interest rates you need to worry about. I've had one of these (or something very similar) AMex cards before. It's basically like a gift card - debit card - checking account combo. You essentially create a faux checking account with AMex which you access and use with the card.

Besides, we don't have any confirmation of exactly what kind of direct deposit they're talking about. (At least I haven't seen any confirmation). It could be employer direct deposit or it could be direct deposit from your own accounts.
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