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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
August 13 2013 00:24 GMT
#4601
On August 13 2013 09:14 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 09:11 Kyhron wrote:
On August 13 2013 09:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
I just want to be able to watch League on TV. I mean if competitive trick pool shots can make it to ESPN, why not this game?

Because theres no such things as sports or people that understand sports on ESPN?

ESPN covered MtG tournaments, I think League has a chance


They took MTG off during the broadcast because the numbers were so bad.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 00:29:40
August 13 2013 00:25 GMT
#4602
I have no idea where Riot gets that boothless is a good idea. Aviation grade headsets off a quick google search reduce up to about -20dB. Combine that with a really good pair of IEMS and you'll get maybe -30dB in ideal conditions. Considering that some players are just using ipod earbuds(almost zero isolation), I really have a hard time believing that the headsets alone playing white noise is enough to washout the commentary during lulls.

Booths give the players a controlled environment, with speakers playing white noise into the booth, and then using a headset+IEMS to isolate both the white noise and crowd, allowing them to focus only on the game.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 00:26:43
August 13 2013 00:26 GMT
#4603
On August 13 2013 09:25 Amui wrote:
I have no idea where Riot gets that boothless is a good idea. Aviation grade headsets off a quick google search reduce up to about -20dB. Combine that with a really good pair of IEMS and you'll get maybe -30dB in ideal conditions. Considering that some players are just using ipod earbuds(almost zero isolation), I really have a hard time believing that the headsets alone playing white noise is enough to washout the commentary during lulls.

Booths give the players a controlled environment, with speakers playing white noise into the booth, and then using a headset+IEMS to isolate both the white noise and crowd.


Maybe they aren't using the booths because its Summer in LA and they can't get AC in the booths? I mean, the teams are seperated by a room, and I bet the rooms have some sound proofing in them too.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 00:37:54
August 13 2013 00:29 GMT
#4604
On August 13 2013 09:26 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 09:25 Amui wrote:
I have no idea where Riot gets that boothless is a good idea. Aviation grade headsets off a quick google search reduce up to about -20dB. Combine that with a really good pair of IEMS and you'll get maybe -30dB in ideal conditions. Considering that some players are just using ipod earbuds(almost zero isolation), I really have a hard time believing that the headsets alone playing white noise is enough to washout the commentary during lulls.

Booths give the players a controlled environment, with speakers playing white noise into the booth, and then using a headset+IEMS to isolate both the white noise and crowd.


Maybe they aren't using the booths because its Summer in LA and they can't get AC in the booths? I mean, the teams are seperated by a room, and I bet the rooms have some sound proofing in them too.


It's not a big deal in a studio environment. It is in a live audience setting, with broadcasted commentary.

Also it's possible to have air conditioned/heated booths. Definitively more expensive, but it is possible to get a fully isolated booth with AC with proper design.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 00:41:11
August 13 2013 00:30 GMT
#4605
Riot said reworked Yi won't be available for play-offs and worlds because he qualifies as a new champion (because rework and stuff, I mean, even Trundle was locked).

Also phage being changed to armour rather than HP and buffing your MS rather than slowing your opponent. Welp, not a fan of it at all, but I guess it allows them to get rid of the RNG.
Why the armour though? Did they think AD+HP was too good? It's really meh now, how can I rush triforce as my offensive item against magic lanes? >.>
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 13 2013 00:47 GMT
#4606
On August 13 2013 09:30 Alaric wrote:
Riot said reworked Yi won't be available for play-offs and worlds because he qualifies as a new champion (because rework and stuff, I mean, even Trundle was locked).

Also phage being changed to armour rather than HP and buffing your MS rather than slowing your opponent. Welp, not a fan of it at all, but I guess it allows them to get rid of the RNG.
Why the armour though? Did they think AD+HP was too good? It's really meh now, how can I rush triforce as my offensive item against magic lanes? >.>

It caused some trouble in the past, made it early easily to snowball with the extra health and damage. Given the current state of Phage I'm not surprised they are trying something different. Now much of an opinion on the change though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 01:02:28
August 13 2013 01:01 GMT
#4607
Eh. I don't really like the change, but it's probably more nostalgia than anything. Phage is super edged out given how strong Gauntlet is in terms of damage and the reliability of the slow. I will argue that Phage giving armor as opposed to HP is straight up worse in that it's no longer as versatile as it is now.

If Mallet still builds out of phage it'll seem kind of weird though since the two items' passives are totally different.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 13 2013 01:08 GMT
#4608
If they wanted to do that with Phage, they should make it build into Wriggle's and make Wriggle's useful again.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 13 2013 01:10 GMT
#4609
whhhhy is riot always remaking items intead of just adding new items -.-

before the new magicres items for example i was really annoyed at the lack of mres choices after they removed FoN.
Now they kill ad+hp items or what?


If noone uses it, just leave it in, the meta will change anyways. Adding more items doesnt harm anyone.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 13 2013 01:19 GMT
#4610
On August 13 2013 10:10 LaNague wrote:
whhhhy is riot always remaking items intead of just adding new items -.-

before the new magicres items for example i was really annoyed at the lack of mres choices after they removed FoN.
Now they kill ad+hp items or what?


If noone uses it, just leave it in, the meta will change anyways. Adding more items doesnt harm anyone.

It has to be an accessibility issue. Muchos items raises the barrier for entry higher than they want. Auto attack slows are dumb anyway.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 13 2013 01:20 GMT
#4611
A bit late to the strong lvl 1/2 potential

Riven and Shyvana have high lvl 1 dmg
Shyvana has 175 from W, higher than anyone but singed or mundo and mundo loses life while singed can only do damage to targets behind him.

Jax can block autos for 2 seconds then return a hundred damage. Creeps? you mean free damage
Fiora blocks one auto while returning damage
Pantheon if he gets W can set up an aegis immediately and do damage and stun blocking several autos
Udyr's a beast. Tiger gives damage and like 40% aspd while proccing twice
Xin's Q is damage and knockup
Sion's shield can be strong if it lands, otherwise Q is good too
Yi can be good if he dodges an ability with his Q though low base stats work against him here. This is where it starts to get situational.

But in general the level 1s/2s go to ranged heros because creeps are too powerful to trade against and kiting is easy in a 1v1. That's Cait, Kayle, Vayne, etc..
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#4612
The health part of phage was one of the best parts about it. Switching it to armor sort of kills it for me.
liftlift > tsm
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#4613
On August 13 2013 10:19 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 10:10 LaNague wrote:
whhhhy is riot always remaking items intead of just adding new items -.-

before the new magicres items for example i was really annoyed at the lack of mres choices after they removed FoN.
Now they kill ad+hp items or what?


If noone uses it, just leave it in, the meta will change anyways. Adding more items doesnt harm anyone.

It has to be an accessibility issue. Muchos items raises the barrier for entry higher than they want. Auto attack slows are dumb anyway.


they JUST made an item that doesnt even need the autoattack, it just slows on use and has huge range, too...
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#4614
I'm confused on the build path here, Mallet remains unchanged. Do you just lose the armor for 600g?
Carrilord has arrived.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 13 2013 01:29 GMT
#4615
On August 13 2013 10:20 obesechicken13 wrote:
A bit late to the strong lvl 1/2 potential

Riven and Shyvana have high lvl 1 dmg
Shyvana has 175 from W, higher than anyone but singed or mundo and mundo loses life while singed can only do damage to targets behind him.

Jax can block autos for 2 seconds then return a hundred damage. Creeps? you mean free damage
Fiora blocks one auto while returning damage
Pantheon if he gets W can set up an aegis immediately and do damage and stun blocking several autos
Udyr's a beast. Tiger gives damage and like 40% aspd while proccing twice
Xin's Q is damage and knockup
Sion's shield can be strong if it lands, otherwise Q is good too
Yi can be good if he dodges an ability with his Q though low base stats work against him here. This is where it starts to get situational.

But in general the level 1s/2s go to ranged heros because creeps are too powerful to trade against and kiting is easy in a 1v1. That's Cait, Kayle, Vayne, etc..

if you are laning with shyvana and you get W before level 3-4 you better be camped by the jungler, or you are making mistakes. shyvana's level 2 with E Q is much more powerful than any combination involving W.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 13 2013 01:31 GMT
#4616
On August 13 2013 10:21 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 10:19 Haiq343 wrote:
On August 13 2013 10:10 LaNague wrote:
whhhhy is riot always remaking items intead of just adding new items -.-

before the new magicres items for example i was really annoyed at the lack of mres choices after they removed FoN.
Now they kill ad+hp items or what?


If noone uses it, just leave it in, the meta will change anyways. Adding more items doesnt harm anyone.

It has to be an accessibility issue. Muchos items raises the barrier for entry higher than they want. Auto attack slows are dumb anyway.


they JUST made an item that doesnt even need the autoattack, it just slows on use and has huge range, too...

I'm not defending the collective results or consistency of approach by any means.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 01:36:57
August 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#4617
On August 13 2013 08:30 TheLink wrote:
Whether LoL's big event or DotA's big event gets more viewers is news I'm interested in, not a pointless discussion at all. Nowhere in this is the implication that I hate DotA, the international was a great event and I'm curious to see how well it did on the only real metric we have for measuring.


The only real metric any of us has is if we(or I) enjoyed the event. If we did, then it was a success to us. If we didn't, then Valve didn't properly take advantage of our viewership/participation. That should be the only thing that you can take away, and use as a metric. In the long run, that's all that really matters.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 13 2013 01:52 GMT
#4618
Does anyone know of a good resource that discusses the merits of Dota 2 versus LoL? I watched some TI3 and now I am curious. I read up on some of the differences between the games, but I can't find an good, unbiased opinion on which game is more fun/rewarding to play.

Now, I do not want to have the conversation here (please don't get me in trouble), but if anyone knows of a place where I can read some pros/cons of the games without having to wade through fanboy opinions, that would be great.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 13 2013 01:56 GMT
#4619
On August 13 2013 10:52 petered wrote:
Does anyone know of a good resource that discusses the merits of Dota 2 versus LoL? I watched some TI3 and now I am curious. I read up on some of the differences between the games, but I can't find an good, unbiased opinion on which game is more fun/rewarding to play.

Now, I do not want to have the conversation here (please don't get me in trouble), but if anyone knows of a place where I can read some pros/cons of the games without having to wade through fanboy opinions, that would be great.

That's totally subjective (fun is relative and all that). However, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317167 may help you some.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 13 2013 01:59 GMT
#4620
On August 13 2013 10:56 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 10:52 petered wrote:
Does anyone know of a good resource that discusses the merits of Dota 2 versus LoL? I watched some TI3 and now I am curious. I read up on some of the differences between the games, but I can't find an good, unbiased opinion on which game is more fun/rewarding to play.

Now, I do not want to have the conversation here (please don't get me in trouble), but if anyone knows of a place where I can read some pros/cons of the games without having to wade through fanboy opinions, that would be great.

That's totally subjective (fun is relative and all that). However, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317167 may help you some.


Thanks! I don't follow these threads all that closely and hence miss great resources like that.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
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