On August 11 2013 09:12 jcc wrote: Hey, I mostly lurk but I feel the creation of a new thread isn't the way to go. I value this place as the apex of LoL discussion, but also for its characters and community. The posters who post often are great and its cool to see celebrities like shake and others outside of the game, but I agree that too much Pokemon or whatever sort of zones out us who aren't in the joke (granted the puns were great). I feel heavier moderation for a few weeks is wiser and keeping GD as one thread.
More LoL on topic, I feel upper D1 is the lair of true trolls, since its where most pros end up, but because soloQ means little to them, they dick around. Although I saw regi do ad TF, he personally did awful, but the build did some funny damage that I really want to test run it more often.
Nah I like the off-topic section for GD, it keeps things straight forward. You come here to talk about League shit, you go to the other one to talk about non League shit. Either way you're still just talking shit.
Why create a separate thread when one is enough? Just be a bit more heavy-handed in the moderation, and it would improve the quality just as easily.
Plus who can judge what is off topic and what is not? For example, someone said discussing the off-topic thread creation is off-topic as well because it's not directly related to LoL. There are people who consider discussing DotA and LoL differences to be off-topic. There are people who consider discussing stream games in this thread to be off-topic. Certain people only want to talk topics that interest them, and will try to force others to do so as well. Those people consider any topic that is not their own to be off-topic.
So, good luck with creating separate threads, because it won't improve certain people's attitudes towards topics they don't like. This is the bigger problem in this forum at the moment.
On August 11 2013 09:12 jcc wrote: Hey, I mostly lurk but I feel the creation of a new thread isn't the way to go. I value this place as the apex of LoL discussion, but also for its characters and community. The posters who post often are great and its cool to see celebrities like shake and others outside of the game, but I agree that too much Pokemon or whatever sort of zones out us who aren't in the joke (granted the puns were great). I feel heavier moderation for a few weeks is wiser and keeping GD as one thread.
More LoL on topic, I feel upper D1 is the lair of true trolls, since its where most pros end up, but because soloQ means little to them, they dick around. Although I saw regi do ad TF, he personally did awful, but the build did some funny damage that I really want to test run it more often.
Nah I like the off-topic section for GD, it keeps things straight forward. You come here to talk about League shit, you go to the other one to talk about non League shit. Either way you're still just talking shit.
Why create a separate thread when one is enough? Just be a bit more heavy-handed in the moderation, and it would improve the quality just as easily.
Plus who can judge what is off topic and what is not? For example, someone said discussing the off-topic thread creation is off-topic as well. All I can say to that is wtf? There are people who consider discussing DotA and LoL differences to be off-topic. There are people who consider discussing stream games in this thread to be off-topic. Certain people only want to talk topics that interest them, and will try to force others to do so as well. Those people consider any topic that is not their own to be off-topic.
So, good luck with creating separate threads, because it won't improve certain people's attitudes towards topics they don't like. This is the bigger problem in this forum at the moment.
It's quite easy to tell what's off-topic, if it doesn't have a morsel of league in the discussion it's off topic. Streams, dota vs lol, those both have league in the discussion forefront, whereas talking about Pokeman, making puns, or how much you enjoy TI3 can go on in an off-topic thread.
Is it REALLY that hard to tell what's on topic and what isn't?
On August 11 2013 09:12 jcc wrote: Hey, I mostly lurk but I feel the creation of a new thread isn't the way to go. I value this place as the apex of LoL discussion, but also for its characters and community. The posters who post often are great and its cool to see celebrities like shake and others outside of the game, but I agree that too much Pokemon or whatever sort of zones out us who aren't in the joke (granted the puns were great). I feel heavier moderation for a few weeks is wiser and keeping GD as one thread.
More LoL on topic, I feel upper D1 is the lair of true trolls, since its where most pros end up, but because soloQ means little to them, they dick around. Although I saw regi do ad TF, he personally did awful, but the build did some funny damage that I really want to test run it more often.
Nah I like the off-topic section for GD, it keeps things straight forward. You come here to talk about League shit, you go to the other one to talk about non League shit. Either way you're still just talking shit.
Why create a separate thread when one is enough? Just be a bit more heavy-handed in the moderation, and it would improve the quality just as easily.
Plus who can judge what is off topic and what is not? For example, someone said discussing the off-topic thread creation is off-topic as well. All I can say to that is wtf? There are people who consider discussing DotA and LoL differences to be off-topic. There are people who consider discussing stream games in this thread to be off-topic. Certain people only want to talk topics that interest them, and will try to force others to do so as well. Those people consider any topic that is not their own to be off-topic.
So, good luck with creating separate threads, because it won't improve certain people's attitudes towards topics they don't like. This is the bigger problem in this forum at the moment.
It's quite easy to tell what's off-topic, if it doesn't have a morsel of league in the discussion it's off topic. Streams, dota vs lol, those both have league in the discussion forefront, whereas talking about Pokeman, making puns, or how much you enjoy TI3 can go on in an off-topic thread.
Is it REALLY that hard to tell what's on topic and what isn't?
The biggest problem is that your definition doesn't fit what I've seen being complained about. I know for certain that everything I've said, I've seen people complain about as being off-topic. I know there are a few people who stop reading any time LoL-related drama/ news comes up. It doesn't interest them, and to them, that's off-topic. It would be quite easy to ignore these posts, but instead people will post to complain about it.
There's also the bigger issue involved that this decision might force separation of the community. It's not really that large in the first place. What is the incentive to post in one thread or the other? Will one thread get more activity, so more people will use it? I can't imagine the off-topic one not being more popular to post in. This will isolate the people who don't want to post there. What happens next? What happens if the LoL-only thread dies after a few weeks or months? There are so many issues separating topics like this. I don't know why some heavier moderation wouldn't be attempted first.
On August 11 2013 10:20 Kupon3ss wrote: Which champs look like Pokemon?
Gah. You made an amazing response in one question than I did in two paragraphs. I'm so bad
On August 11 2013 09:12 jcc wrote: Hey, I mostly lurk but I feel the creation of a new thread isn't the way to go. I value this place as the apex of LoL discussion, but also for its characters and community. The posters who post often are great and its cool to see celebrities like shake and others outside of the game, but I agree that too much Pokemon or whatever sort of zones out us who aren't in the joke (granted the puns were great). I feel heavier moderation for a few weeks is wiser and keeping GD as one thread.
More LoL on topic, I feel upper D1 is the lair of true trolls, since its where most pros end up, but because soloQ means little to them, they dick around. Although I saw regi do ad TF, he personally did awful, but the build did some funny damage that I really want to test run it more often.
Nah I like the off-topic section for GD, it keeps things straight forward. You come here to talk about League shit, you go to the other one to talk about non League shit. Either way you're still just talking shit.
Why create a separate thread when one is enough? Just be a bit more heavy-handed in the moderation, and it would improve the quality just as easily.
Plus who can judge what is off topic and what is not? For example, someone said discussing the off-topic thread creation is off-topic as well. All I can say to that is wtf? There are people who consider discussing DotA and LoL differences to be off-topic. There are people who consider discussing stream games in this thread to be off-topic. Certain people only want to talk topics that interest them, and will try to force others to do so as well. Those people consider any topic that is not their own to be off-topic.
So, good luck with creating separate threads, because it won't improve certain people's attitudes towards topics they don't like. This is the bigger problem in this forum at the moment.
It's quite easy to tell what's off-topic, if it doesn't have a morsel of league in the discussion it's off topic. Streams, dota vs lol, those both have league in the discussion forefront, whereas talking about Pokeman, making puns, or how much you enjoy TI3 can go on in an off-topic thread.
Is it REALLY that hard to tell what's on topic and what isn't?
The biggest problem is that your definition doesn't fit what I've seen being complained about. I know for certain that everything I've said, I've seen people complain about as being off-topic. I know there are a few people who stop reading any time LoL-related drama/ news comes up. It doesn't interest them, and to them, that's off-topic. It would be quite easy to ignore these posts, but instead people will post to complain about it.
There's also the bigger issue involved that this decision might force separation of the community. It's not really that large in the first place. What is the incentive to post in one thread or the other? Will one thread get more activity, so more people will use it? I can't imagine the off-topic one not being more popular to post in. This will isolate the people who don't want to post there. What happens next? What happens if the LoL-only thread dies after a few weeks or months? There are so many issues separating topics like this. I don't know why some heavier moderation wouldn't be attempted first.
I expect that the most active members on the forum will post on both threads as long as the topics are of interest to them. It's like how pokemon has two versions of the game - you can play one or the other or both, they're not mutually exclusive. I wouldn't worry about either thread dying, I mean we've got worlds, season 4 changes, and a new pokemon game on the horizon. There will be plenty of stuff to talk about.
Moderating a forum is a ton of work, and heavy moderating even more so. Neo & Co. don't get paid nearly enough (jokes) to have to babysit the thread ceaselessly. There was also a clear shift in tone of the thread on-off topic ratio that prompted the curfew. If our posting quality improves perhaps the mods will change their minds, but it's a not a surprising response to tighten the rules a bit.
Neo simply too lazy to heavily moderate thread, it's as simple as that. He's a busy dude doing stuff, I doubt he wants to scour the forum for random ass fish puns.
About the off-topic and on-topic threads, I'm not sure if how it'll work out. It usually seems to me as though off-topic stuff just comes out randomly, and if people were sort of inclined to do it in another thread, it might be a little weird.
On August 11 2013 10:39 wei2coolman wrote: Neo simply too lazy to heavily moderate thread, it's as simple as that. He's a busy dude doing stuff, I doubt he wants to scour the forum for random ass fish puns.
No he's actually using reverse psychology to trick people into hiding them better so he has more work to do.
On August 11 2013 10:39 wei2coolman wrote: Neo simply too lazy to heavily moderate thread, it's as simple as that. He's a busy dude doing stuff, I doubt he wants to scour the forum for random ass fish puns.
No he's actually using reverse psychology to trick people into hiding them better so he has more work to do.
Maybe he's just trying to bait us. He likes fishing for bans.
On August 11 2013 10:39 wei2coolman wrote: Neo simply too lazy to heavily moderate thread, it's as simple as that. He's a busy dude doing stuff, I doubt he wants to scour the forum for random ass fish puns.
You confuse my generosity for laziness? OK. Pretty sure I've stated before that I read all of GD.
On August 11 2013 10:39 wei2coolman wrote: Neo simply too lazy to heavily moderate thread, it's as simple as that. He's a busy dude doing stuff, I doubt he wants to scour the forum for random ass fish puns.
You confuse my generosity for laziness? OK. Pretty sure I've stated before that I read all of GD.
We miss you, t'was probably a bait to make you post. I'm out of dissappointment opportunities to hand out to I passed my turn.
As such, I feel that BotRK + IE is the best Yi build, and from there, you can tank up, or get a LW right away if you feel gutsy.
I feel there is something really wrong with this horseshit.
Bork into IE? O_o
That just sounds terrible to me too. I honestly feel like Ghostblade is fairly underrrated on Yi. Every possible stat he could possibly want, and a burst ultimate/active that works similar to his R.
My Yi games generally go mass ArPen (Ghostblade into LW) into an IE.
Offtopic: Dominions 4 slated for release in late August. hrgggggh
On August 11 2013 10:39 wei2coolman wrote: Neo simply too lazy to heavily moderate thread, it's as simple as that. He's a busy dude doing stuff, I doubt he wants to scour the forum for random ass fish puns.
You confuse my generosity for laziness? OK. Pretty sure I've stated before that I read all of GD.
EPT
