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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 08 2013 09:11 GMT
#3361
Assassins are binary by nature, an assassin that is not binary is a bruiser.

As for well designed melee, I think Renekton is pretty one-dimensional. Aquire rage, do in>stun>damage>out combo.

I'd cast my vote for Riven. Four dashes, a stun, a knockback, a ranged aoe execute and all on very low cooldowns allows for some pretty interesting plays.

Lee Sin can make sick plays, but I think his kit is basically impossible to balance properly.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 09:15:49
August 08 2013 09:15 GMT
#3362
I think these answers are a good example of why we only get manaless champions with mass dashes and cc nowadays. They're always the most popular.

Oh and the high sustain, can't forget that.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 09:25:03
August 08 2013 09:19 GMT
#3363
Exciting, Ability spamming jump round map doing cool shit > Mana management, outsmarting and positioning your opponent.

As sad as it might seem, thats literally all it comes down to

Also, top lane next champ. Riven or Renekton? :O Others?
Useless wet fish.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
August 08 2013 09:27 GMT
#3364
On August 08 2013 18:19 Capped wrote:
Exciting, Ability spamming jump round map doing cool shit > Mana management, outsmarting and positioning your opponent.

As sad as it might seem, thats literally all it comes down to

Also, top lane next champ. Riven or Renekton? :O Others?


Aatrox
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 08 2013 09:40 GMT
#3365
On August 08 2013 18:19 Capped wrote:
Exciting, Ability spamming jump round map doing cool shit > Mana management, outsmarting and positioning your opponent.

As sad as it might seem, thats literally all it comes down to

Also, top lane next champ. Riven or Renekton? :O Others?


Lissandra. Can be downright abusive when played top.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#3366
On August 08 2013 18:19 Capped wrote:
Exciting, Ability spamming jump round map doing cool shit > Mana management, outsmarting and positioning your opponent.

As sad as it might seem, thats literally all it comes down to

Also, top lane next champ. Riven or Renekton? :O Others?


Teemo ofc
KCCO!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 09:53:57
August 08 2013 09:51 GMT
#3367
How does liss top actually work? It looks cool and I want to try it out (esp now that ryze top seems like suicide with the shorter range against ranged autoattack whores like kennen)

On the topic of assassins that dont feel stupid frustrating, I actually really think zed is good (and good design) even though I only tangentially play him. He's energy, but the energy actually does feel like a restriction, and his assassination is such that if you can combo-breaker him, you are rewarded with your (or your teammate's) life.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
August 08 2013 09:57 GMT
#3368
Just hit plat wooooooooooooooooooooooo I am so pumped! Vladimir's Cutthroats here I come!
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 08 2013 10:05 GMT
#3369
Is there any website i can see my match history thats longer then 10 games?

Ive been on a huge streak and i want to see it :< (Literally like 30 for 5)
Useless wet fish.
eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
August 08 2013 10:07 GMT
#3370
lol king elobuff or eloophant
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
August 08 2013 10:09 GMT
#3371
Fed Yi is actually some bullshit.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 08 2013 10:12 GMT
#3372
On August 08 2013 19:07 eagle wrote:
lol king elobuff or eloophant


they all just show the latest 10. Is a shame
Useless wet fish.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 08 2013 10:18 GMT
#3373
I think these sites just show in real time Riot's data, they don't store anything.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 08 2013 10:40 GMT
#3374
After reading about Req's Teemo exploits, I picked him up on my low level EUW account... Blind is sooo nice, really good vs all the snowball autoattackers.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 08 2013 10:43 GMT
#3375
On August 08 2013 18:51 sylverfyre wrote:
How does liss top actually work? It looks cool and I want to try it out (esp now that ryze top seems like suicide with the shorter range against ranged autoattack whores like kennen)

On the topic of assassins that dont feel stupid frustrating, I actually really think zed is good (and good design) even though I only tangentially play him. He's energy, but the energy actually does feel like a restriction, and his assassination is such that if you can combo-breaker him, you are rewarded with your (or your teammate's) life.


Liss top is much like Ryze in that she abuses most melee tops. People like Singed can never land a hit on you. Anyone that can jump on you can rarely finish their combo. Just W-> Q-> walk away when they get close. Her E is also great in the long lane, giving her a pretty good escape. The only downsides are that she has no sustain and not as much roam potential as she does in mid.

When I play top Liss, I go for RoA first. The extra health and mana is good for the protracted engagements. Otherwise it's pretty standard from there for me.

On Zed, I think he is probably the most frustrating Assassin of all. He still has too much wave clear and I don't think energy is enough of a restriction. But that is just me.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#3376
On August 08 2013 19:12 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 19:07 eagle wrote:
lol king elobuff or eloophant


they all just show the latest 10. Is a shame


pretty sure elo buff (the one you pay for) shows more
TranslatorBaa!
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 11:00:25
August 08 2013 11:00 GMT
#3377
Yeah im not paying to say i went on a huge win streak in bronze.

Thats just..pathetic
Useless wet fish.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 08 2013 11:23 GMT
#3378
So, opinions on balanced junglers?
Personally I think Zac is a bit over the top with his grose jump, Elise change is too new to say anything about...
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 08 2013 11:27 GMT
#3379
I discovered a new nidalee trick watching Bischu : you can launch an auto spear, while it's mid-air change in cougar form, use Q and it will proc at distance. O_O

Is this a very advanced trick or common knowledge of AD nidalee players ?
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#3380
On August 08 2013 20:23 Duvon wrote:
So, opinions on balanced junglers?
Personally I think Zac is a bit over the top with his grose jump, Elise change is too new to say anything about...


Jarvan IV and Lee Sin immediately come to mind when thinking Junglers.

But also consider Trundle, Nasus and Shyvana, who is making a little comeback.
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