Quick Facts When: July 19th to 21st Where: Sao Paulo World Trade Center, Golden Hall Format: Group Stage into Single Elimination Brackets Stakes: $60,000 USD Prize Pool, Brazilian National Champion, Entry to International Wildcard Tournament at Gamescom (August 21st to 25th) Teams: Keyd Team, CNB e-Sports Club, paiN Gaming, RMA, PeesPlay, playArt, Action, Nex Impetus Website: http://www.cblol.com.br Patch: 3.8
Overview If you’re a Twitch.tv addict like I am, you probably noticed, several times in the past months, random Brazilian streams show up on the front page with tens of thousand of viewers, reaching as high as 60k. If you were ever curious about what they were, you don’t need to search any further; I’ll tell you. The broadcasts with the skinny nerd and the smiley chubby guy shoutcasting in fast Portugese were qualifiers leading up to the big event this weekend: Campeonato Brasileiro (aka Brazilian Championship, CBR, and Brazilian Regionals).
This is the zenith of the season for the Brazilian League of Legends community. The winner of this tournament will be named National Champion and get to move on to Gamescom for a chance to qualify for Season 3 World Championship. Eight teams will fight it out through the group stage and brackets over 3 grueling days. Did I mention the prize pool is $60,000 USD?
Oh there’s also the venue: Sao Paulo World Trade Center, Golden Hall. I’ll let the pictures do the talking.
What's that shiny gold dome?
Here's where the action takes place.
CBR is going to be an amazing tournament. Every team has trained extremely hard for this, and this is their chance to claim the #1 spot in Brazil. The competition is fierce, and Brazilian crowds never disappoint. The Storylines section and Interview with Coach Philip will go into more details about the competitors.
Seriously, you do not want to miss this.
Format and Schedule
Group Stage consists of round robin Bo1 play split into 2 groups of 4. Bracket stage is single elimination. Semifinals are Bo3; finals are Bo5.
Friday 7/19 (Times in GMT -3) 10:30 – Keyd BenQ vs RMA Ozone
12:00 – CNB HyperX vs PaiN Gaming
13:30 – PeesPlay EVGA vs Nex Impetus
15:00 – Playart vs ActioN BlooDy
16:30 – RMA Ozone vs PeesPlay EVGA
18:00 – PaiN Gaming vs Playart
19:30 – Keyd BenQ vs Nex Impetus
Saturday 7/20 10:30 – CNB HyperX vs ActioN BlooDy
12:00 – Keyd BenQ vs PeesPlay EVGA / RMA Ozone vs Nex Impetus
13:30 – PaiN Gaming vs Action / CNB HyperX vs Playart
14:30 – Cosplay
16:30 – Semifinal 1: Group A #1 vs Group B #2
Sunday 7/21 10:30 – Semifinal 2: Group B #1 vs Group A #2
15:00 – Grand Finals
Storylines Keyd: On the hot streak Keyd has had the best results in recent history, winning 2 of the 4 CBR qualifers. They also recently acquired a new ADC, Haelz. He’s hyped up to be the aggressive new talent, fresh from the top of solo queue. Will Haelz be the WildTurtle of Keyd?
paiN: The people’s team Continuing with NA analogies, paiN is like the TSM of Brazil. They are the first to establish a permanent gaming house in Brazil, and Kami and brTT are like the Dyrus and TheOddOne for Brazilian streams. Will the fan favorites succeed?
CNB: Looking for redemption Although they are the second seed coming into CBR, their play has been very lackluster lately. Many won’t hesitate to put them behind paiN and Keyd in the Brazilian top 3. Consequently, CNB has been bootcamping hardcore 12 hours a day for the past 2 weeks. Will they make a resurgence when it matters the most?
PeesPlay and RMA: Tired of being 4th The Brazilian League of Legends scene is more or less separated into The Top 3 and The Rest. PeesPlay (formerly AceZone) and RMA have always been at the top of The Rest, but never consistently good enough to break into The Top 3. Is this their time to shine?
The Wild Cards Nex Impetus had 9 roster changes in 2 months and has only recently solidified their lineup for CBR. Action used to be a DotA team and is confident that their DotA experience is an advantage. playArt has the backing of an established e-sports organization and a captain with a lot of competitive experience. Will one of these three teams surprise us all?
Interview with Coach Philip
Awww what a cute team. Philip is in the center.
I had the absolute pleasure of talking to my good friend Philip about his role of head coach of CNB e-Sports Club, the preparation for Campeonato Brasileiro, and all things e-sports. He gives a lot of insight into the growing Brazilian scene. I thought his responses were so good that I had a hard time deciding if I should have made a separate thread. If there's anything you read on this page, read this interview.
Feng "caelym" Wu: Hi Philip. Firstly, I want to thank you for taking your time to do this interview. I know you're really busy with training right now. Can you start off by introducing yourself? What's your full name? What is your life like outside of e-sports? And how did you get introduced to the competitive scene?
Renan Philip: Oh it’s not a problem at all. Thank you for the opportunity my friend! Well, my name is Renan Philip, and I'm a law student at FAE Centro Universitário in Curitiba/PR - Brazil. I've started with e-sports by managing a team of some friends of mine (vTi Nox, who placed 2nd place at the Season 2 Brazilian Championship) when they needed a new manager and called me. I was already an e-sports passionate, but from that moment on, I just knew that this was going to be part of my life until it was over.
Feng "caelym" Wu: From humble beginnings, you are now the head coach of the top Brazilian team CNB e-Sports Club. For those of us who are unfamiliar with what a coach does, you can give a brief explanation of what you do? Is it a stressful job being part of a top organization and team?
Renan Philip: The role of a coach is being more and more recognized as well as valued in our western world, but briefly I do almost the same as other sports coaches do: organizing team practices and managing the relationship between the 5 players. I myself also perform the analyst role: taking notes of everything we play, how we do it, and what we did wrong, as well as watching tournaments from all over the world such as OGN, LPL and the LCS and trying to adapt or learn things from them.
It is a lot of stress, but the feeling that you get by being in such team is surely bigger than the stress. There's no emotion better than watching a crowd shout out your team’s name, or even better watch the crowd shout out your country's name because of something your team did (at IEM São Paulo when I was still Keyd's coach).
Feng "caelym" Wu: Now let's talk about Campeonato Brasileiro (also referred to as CBR and Brazilian Championship) that is happening this weekend. The venue is spectacular, the prize pool is large, and probably most importantly, the winner gets to go to Gamescom to compete for a spot at Season 3 World Championship. Would you agree with me that this is the biggest Brazilian League of Legends event to date? What are your feelings and goals going into this event?
Renan Philip: I completely agree. This is the biggest Brazilian e-sports tournament up to date. Even in the glorious Counter Strike times there was never such a big Brazilian-only tournament (just to note: CPL 2005 distributed $70k in prize pool, but it was an international event). And obviously this is the biggest LoL event as well.
Being completely honest, I'm fully confident in my team and our whole preparation going towards this tournament. We've practiced a lot, we've worked a lot, we've studied a lot, we lived and breathed this game. We really want to be the #1 team in Brazil.
Feng "caelym" Wu: You talked about how much CNB spent preparing and training for this event. I know your team did a bootcamp for 2 weeks. Can you go over how you trained at bootcamp? Did you do anything different from your normal practice? And how much better do you think CNB is after bootcamp?
Renan Philip: We've had a daily schedule that basically consisted of only going to the gym in the morning, then having lunch together, then going to the bootcamp (which our organization called War Room) and practicing and watching our own replays and watching other tournaments and theorycrafting for about 12 hours with some pauses to eat in between the activities.
We've practiced a lot more in every single aspect, from amount to quality, and the fact that we were living together and focusing on nothing but the game also helps a real lot. We're definitely a lot stronger right now after the bootcamp. A lot of silly mistakes that we couldn't see before were corrected, and we've also implemented a lot of new strategies based on some great teams from other regions.
Feng "caelym" Wu: Let's talk about the competitors in more detail. Group A has Keyd, RMA, PeesPlay, Nex Impetus. Group B has paiN, CNB, PlayArt, Action. I think the general community consensus is that CNB, Keyd, and paiN are the top 3 BR teams. How good are the less popular teams? Who are you most looking forward to facing in group stage and then the bracket stage?
Renan Philip: The other less popular teams are certainly good, but not quite in the same level as the top 3 I'd say. I'm looking forward to our first game that will be against paiN, as well as any one of the playoffs games, but the bo5 finals will certainly be special.
Obviously we're not taking the other games as guaranteed wins. We've studied every single team that will be going to the tournament and will be prepared for them as well.
Feng "caelym" Wu: Who do you think you will face in the finals?
Renan Philip: I’m not sure. Either Keyd or paiN since this will be the other semi-final.
Feng “caelym” Wu: Would you rather face Keyd or paiN?
Renan Philip: You're killing me Feng!! haha. I really wouldn't like to choose an opponent. I'd say whoever is the best in their semi-final, but if I had to pick one it is Keyd.
Feng "caelym" Wu: Arguably, the most important prize of the tournament is a chance to qualify for Worlds at the International Wildcard Qualifier at Gamescom. Earlier you said that you looked at other regions for strategies. necrosed, coach of paiN, in the past posted on Teamliquid that he thinks paiN can place top 3 in NA LCS. How do you think Brazil compares to the established regions (NA, EU, KR, CN, SEA)? How do you think Brazil will fare against other new regions (Latin Am, Russian, Turkey, Oceania) at Gamescom?
Renan Philip: I think the Brazilian top 3 are at least capable of getting into the LCS and playing well there. I can't say that for sure because the last time a Brazilian team went to an international event was IEM Hanover where paiN got only one win over Millennium, but they got some pretty good games against Gambit and Fnatic. It was some time ago and before all the additional experience from competing in the LCS for the teams.
Against the other new regions I think we will fare pretty well, as they don't have as much experience as we do as well as structure (7 out of 8 BR teams got a bootcamp/gaming house for the S3 Brazilian championship; some of them will just stay on the gaming house even after the tournament).
Feng "caelym" Wu: A lot of western viewers are not familiar with the Brazilian scene. Can you tell us what the superstar players to watch are? What unique Brazilian champions, tactics, and strategies should we keep an eye out for?
Renan Philip: Every one of the 15 players from the top 3 teams are considered above the line here, even the newcomers such as paiN's Venon and Keyd's Haelz are getting their recognition. But to name each team’s best players, I'd say CNB's takeshi, paiN's Kami, and Keyd's Snowlz are quite well above the line and probably can be on par with every single western midlaners if not with some other asian ones.
We are really adaptive, and every team have dedicated coaches such as me, so expect some pretty good adaptations and changes in between games on the bo3s and bo5. Also, right now the Brazilian scene is really based a lot on the OGN, at least when it comes to which champion is prioritized, so expect our picks and bans ratios to be quite like OGN's.
One champion that Brazilian teams play on a regular basis and that most teams don’t (I can't remember any other than FXO and one single Korean team) play is Rengar. At least in the last LAN tournament (BGL Arena), Rengar had a pretty high pick ratio. But I can't go further than that, because if I do I could be just giving out my team’s information or even some analysis that I've done which other teams haven't.
Feng "caelym" Wu: I want to wind down this interview with some talk about the growth of League of Legends in Brazil. Last year, CBR’s total prize pool (including qualifiers) was $80k, and the event was inside another (BGS, Brazil Game Show). This year the total prize pool is $100k, and the venue is dedicated to CBR. What happened in Brazil e-sports in the past year? You mentioned earlier that this year's CBR is equal to CPL of the glorious Counter Strike days. What do you hope to see in the future? Brazilian LCS maybe?
Renan Philip: League of Legends itself, as well as a lot of the other competitive games have grown tremendously here and that makes e-sports as a whole grow a lot bigger. Other FPS games are having Brazilian championships, and the Brazil Gaming League and its structure have also helped out a lot. IEM São Paulo happened with great success. We've came from a 15k viewer S2 Brazilian Championship to gradually going up higher and higher until BGL Arena had 60k viewers, among other things.
By the way things are going, with teams getting bootcamps and gaming houses, more stable rosters and dedicated players, and the viewership going up higher and only second to the actual LCS, as well as already getting more attention than other global e-sports, I can only look forward to a Brazilian LCS in 2014.
One of the things that our community manager Bruno Vasone said earlier this year when questioned about a Brazilian LCS was that teams weren't sufficiently stable or even dedicated. I could agree with him then, but right now we've proved it wrong so...
And talking on the glory days, most people don't know that Brazil have a pretty big background in e-sports from Counter Strike, where we used to be at the real top tier scene. In Korea, League of Legends is getting recognized as the new Broodwar; in Brazil, it is getting recognized as the new Counter Strike.
Feng "caelym" Wu: Damn, that was beautiful. Muito obrigado, Philip! Thank you so much for taking time from your busy schedule to talk to me about the exciting and fast growing Brazilian League of Legends scene. I hope your insightful answers will attract english-speaking fans to follow the BR scene and tune in to Campeonato Brasileiro this weekend. Do you have any final words for your soon-to-be fans and the western community?
Renan Philip: Thank you as well Feng for the great opportunity of talking to such an important community that Teamliquid is. I hope what I said helps the Brazilian scene get some more recognition or even get the chance to be watched by some of you League of Legends passionates.
I'd also like to thank everyone that has read through this whole interview. Even though the questions Feng made were awesome, my boringness may have been tough to beat. Thank everyone who will be watching the Brazilian Championship this weekend, I hope you guys like the games and get to know our scene better!
Lastly I'd like to send huge thanks to CNB’s sponsors: Kingston HyperX, X5 Computadores, Massa Leve and mouses.com.br.
Closing Remarks Mark my words: Brazil is the next big League of Legends region. The scene is growing fast, and they are hungry for more. It often goes unnoticed because the scene is somewhat insular due to the language barrier, but the viewership numbers reveal the real truth.
The infrastructure in Brazilian League of Legends is also surprisingly well developed for a new region. Seven of the eight teams competing in CBR were in bootcamps or gaming houses. Most of the teams have a dedicated coaching staff. It would not be an exaggeration to say that Brazilian teams prepared harder for this tournament than North American teams did for Season 2 Regionals.
Campeonato Brasileiro provides Brazil an opportunity to be scrutinized once again by the international audience, and it’s their time to show how far they came. Some coaches already feel that the level of play is up to par with LCS; now they have to make us believe.
I have to end with this obligatory and timeless video from IEM Sao Paulo. Hue.
Gotta say that when I tune into the BR streams for their tournaments the play is pretty high level and not to be looked down upon at all. I'd say the 3 top Brazilian teams could probably qualify for the NA LCS, where they would probably be a lower midtable team (think Coast).
Would be nice if there would be a Brazilian or Latin American LCS type league, maybe taking its example from Garena. I'm sure between Brazil and Latin America you could find 8 worthy teams that could grow a really interesting e-Sports market.
I'm kind ashamed that I don't follow the brazilian LoL scene as closely as I could. This article actually gave me a lot of info about the teams and how the pro-scene is developing over here. Brazil has a lot of potential and I hope that esports keeps growing more and more here.
Great stuff Caelym; really great read. I really liked the interview. Yeah the Brazilian scene looking really fucking good. I think one more season from now and they can be pretty strong contenders compared to more established scenes.
For those who never watched a brazilian LoL match be sure to keep a eye on Kami (midlaner for Pain Gaming), probabily the best brazilian player and only 17. He's a monster.
On July 19 2013 08:55 lunaticsea wrote: For those who never watched a brazilian LoL match be sure to keep a eye on Kami (midlaner for Pain Gaming), probabily the best brazilian player and only 17. He's a monster.
<3 the BR fans making a TL account and posting for the first time. And I definitely agree, Kami is godlike and comparable to EU mids. paiN and Keyd seem to have a lot of individual talent.
This is a great writeup. South american server also have oppened in the region, the competition over there is lower but hopefully it will create a nice competitive area
On July 20 2013 01:00 caelym wrote: fffuuuu my work blocks Twitch streams (not the website, but the direct video stream). really want to watch CNB vs paiN.
Get someone else to watch it on their computer, and use Gotomeeting to watch their screen.
On July 19 2013 08:55 lunaticsea wrote: For those who never watched a brazilian LoL match be sure to keep a eye on Kami (midlaner for Pain Gaming), probabily the best brazilian player and only 17. He's a monster.
<3 the BR fans making a TL account and posting for the first time. And I definitely agree, Kami is godlike and comparable to EU mids. paiN and Keyd seem to have a lot of individual talent.
On July 20 2013 03:43 caelym wrote: Really nice comp from CNB. Definitely see the OGN influence Philip talked about.
I'm sure Leko researched a lot about Homme (MVP Ozone top laner) style of playing. They know Mana can shine in teamfights if they create a good frontline and sure they did.
For those who don't know, Doublelep old nickname was "Irelia", he's kinda legendary on that champion. Brunobit (the jungler) for nexi is 3 times Counter Strike World Champion.
I just skimmed through today's VOD. Nex Impetus really came out to play and stepped it up big time. It's good that they spent all the time shuffling around their roster until they found a very good fit for everyone.
This game (RMA vs Nex) is really really good. Both have good comps, both are playing aggressive and well (except for the Thresh who keeps getting caught -_-).
On July 21 2013 22:50 caelym wrote: Ahri has been a top tier pick for a while. Her mobility, burst and catch makes her a midgame monster.
She's also slightly stronger in the BR meta which seems to favour more skirmishes and roaming than taking objectives. Ahri stronk - its just the prevalence of her that is interesting
On July 22 2013 04:23 Numy wrote: I like how high priority Liss is. Such an underrated hero
I think the Koreans are the only ones that dont rate her that highly. In EU LCS she is approaching 100 % pick/ban. NA also plays her quite often. I wonder why that is.
so used to the Suits in NA/EU LCS by now that I totally forgot for how long Phreak, Riv and Zenon were casting in those simple Riot T shirts and Polos haha.
Unfortunately that Lissandra is one big fail. At the beginnign I was already thinking that she kept missing her stuff, backed out at the wrong time etc. And now she fell hoplessly behind.
On July 22 2013 04:39 Redox wrote: Unfortunately that Lissandra is one big fail. At the beginnign I was already thinking that she kept missing her stuff, backed out at the wrong time etc. And now she fell hoplessly behind.
He screwed up really hard in that 2v2 at the start of the game. Flashed out when they were 2v1 with lee/mao low. He could have gotten lee and double buffs instead he flashes letting mao die for free. From then I knew he is either nervous or just uncomfortable on liss
On July 22 2013 04:39 Redox wrote: Unfortunately that Lissandra is one big fail. At the beginnign I was already thinking that she kept missing her stuff, backed out at the wrong time etc. And now she fell hoplessly behind.
He screwed up really hard in that 2v2 at the start of the game. Flashed out when they were 2v1 with lee/mao low. He could have gotten lee and double buffs instead he flashes letting mao die for free. From then I knew he is either nervous or just uncomfortable on liss
Yeah that is just what I meant. He always seemed to do the wrong decisions.
On July 22 2013 04:35 Numy wrote: This CNB seems pretty dam good. Thought they were meant to be lackluster!@
They practiced really damn hard for this tournament. Almost a different team compared to before bootcamp. And f-ing Comcast, anything above 360p is unwatchable lag for me
Pain seems to have weaker laning phases than other teams I've seen them play but have really good teamwork and objective control afterwards. Liss who failed hard is doing a lot of work isolating the rest of the team so vayne can clean up nicely. The fight at drag that started the snowball was all Kennen going too deep and Liss completely stopping follow up
On July 22 2013 05:26 Don_Julio wrote: Way to get more women into gaming: make everyone of them feel uncomfortable at events. I don't think it works that way.
I'm really impressed with the picks from both teams this game. These are very modern picks; usually scenes outside of the really established scene often lags behind in picks/bans.
I think whoever makes it to cologne will be the favourite for the wildcard
Don't know too much about CIS, Oceana looked weak and the turkish team did decently at Dreamhack but pain and cnb both look a bit better as far as I can tell, of course it's hard actually evaluate them properly without cross region play.
On July 22 2013 05:45 AsnSensation wrote: I think whoever makes it to cologne will be the favourite for the wildcard
Don't know too much about CIS, Oceana looked weak and the turkish team did decently at Dreamhack but pain and cnb both look a bit better as far as I can tell, of course it's hard actually evaluate them properly without cross region play.
Pain and CNB looks pretty good from what I can tell. They're playing mechanically fine; but their map movement looks very rudimentary; but I doubt the other wild card regions are even close to how advanced CNB and Pain are.
CNB and Pain's picks are very modern picks; meaning they are watching other regions.
Pain out csing CNB so hard this game. Jungler ganking well for Pain; CNB needs to rotate lanes out better to force lane mismatch and take early towers.
On July 22 2013 05:51 caelym wrote: CNB might have to ban lissandra next game. paiN is really good at utilizing her.
The maokai combo is so deadly in ganks. It's really CNB's fault for not rotating out the lanes correctly though.
On July 22 2013 05:44 wei2coolman wrote: I'm really impressed with the picks from both teams this game. These are very modern picks; usually scenes outside of the really established scene often lags behind in picks/bans.
That lissandra + maokai gank was nasty.
Their general play style looks everything but modern though.
On July 22 2013 05:45 AsnSensation wrote: I think whoever makes it to cologne will be the favourite for the wildcard
Don't know too much about CIS, Oceana looked weak and the turkish team did decently at Dreamhack but pain and cnb both look a bit better as far as I can tell, of course it's hard actually evaluate them properly without cross region play.
Pain and CNB looks pretty good from what I can tell. They're playing mechanically fine; but their map movement looks very rudimentary; but I doubt the other wild card regions are even close to how advanced CNB and Pain are.
CNB and Pain's picks are very modern picks; meaning they are watching other regions.
Yeah, both teams look kinda indecisive at times, running around aimlessly on the map or overextending without reason. They sure know how to skirmish, though - some great layering of CCs, and that Lissandra/Maokai vs. Zac/Elise/Jayce fight was pretty intense, with Maokai bodyblocking the Cocoon to Lissandra could blow someone up after popping out of Zhonya Stasis
Considering other regions, don't underestimate CIS. These guys can easily set up scrims with LCS/EU Challenger-level teams, and even though EU-NE is considered weaker than EUW, there's still quite a bunch of quality players over there
On July 22 2013 05:44 wei2coolman wrote: I'm really impressed with the picks from both teams this game. These are very modern picks; usually scenes outside of the really established scene often lags behind in picks/bans.
That lissandra + maokai gank was nasty.
Their general play style looks everything but modern though.
I agree completely. I feel like they're just using modern picks just cuz koreans using um, with no regards to how to play out lanes.
CNB made major rookie mistake. With Cait/zyra lane, they should have 2v1'd midlane. Have the zac or Jayce in 1v2 lane; out push the mid lane, and grab early mid turret. Then rotate out the lanes. Also; not sure if I like the Elise pick into Maokai; Didn't get to see ban/pick phase, but something like nunu or lee sin would be a really nice anti-maokai pick.
This game is such a stomp; 10k lead at 25 min mark >.<
On July 22 2013 05:57 caelym wrote: Jungle elise pick is fine, but you're right about having subpar lane assignments and rotations.
It's a fine pick; but you can abuse maokai jungle so much harder with something like Lee Sin.
Jeez; i love watching a farmed kog; it's such a silly champion. Oh is that health I see? NOT ANYMORE. LET ME SPIT ALL OVER YOU. BLURGH BLURGH BLURGH. NO MORE HEALTH BITCH.
This nami is pretty good; she's hit a lot of her Q's and ultis in crucial times (not like it matters though, this game is a stomp).
On July 22 2013 06:13 wei2coolman wrote: That crowd is pretty fucking big; I'm impressed. Brazil showing that it wants to roll with the big boy regions.
Yeah, also up to 100k viewers on stream - and I doubt there are too many non-brazilians among those
IEM Sao Paulo already had an insane crowd - maybe LCS NA should rename LCS Americas, open up for Brazil teams and make a roadtrip down there or something!
On July 22 2013 06:13 wei2coolman wrote: That crowd is pretty fucking big; I'm impressed. Brazil showing that it wants to roll with the big boy regions.
Yeah, also up to 100k viewers on stream - and I doubt there are too many non-brazilians among those
Me, you and Caelym. (unless you're brazilian?) :D
I'm surprised I'm not burnt out on LoL; 3 days of EU LCS; OGN, and NA LCS; and now this. Must consume ALL THE ESPORTS.
On July 22 2013 06:13 wei2coolman wrote: That crowd is pretty fucking big; I'm impressed. Brazil showing that it wants to roll with the big boy regions.
Yeah, also up to 100k viewers on stream - and I doubt there are too many non-brazilians among those
IEM Sao Paulo already had an insane crowd - maybe LCS NA should rename LCS Americas, open up for Brazil teams and make a roadtrip down there or something!
Travel and logistics would make it hard to coordinate. Maybe a LCS with teams from Brazil and Latin Am, a LCS with Turkey and CIS, and a LCS with SEA and Oceania. Event productions are definitely way more hype than studio productions.
On July 22 2013 06:29 caelym wrote: And btw, in the long breaks between matches, the teams meet with their coaches to quickly review the games and plan the next one.
Really? that's really nice. Hopefully coach pointed out bad map movement and rotation from players for CNB. I don't want to see another stomp.
Blitzcrank with ez pick? weird. Never really liked that combo in lane. Not sure how I like the lisandra pick without another major AoE ulti/pick.
Gragas pick with Kennen pick is questionable as well.
out of curiosity, do you like commentary because the play by play makes things exciting or the analysis adds extra depth? for me, I still get the excitement from the energy and enthusiasm in the casters' voices. I get the analysis from talking about the games with you guys.
On July 22 2013 06:13 wei2coolman wrote: That crowd is pretty fucking big; I'm impressed. Brazil showing that it wants to roll with the big boy regions.
Yeah, also up to 100k viewers on stream - and I doubt there are too many non-brazilians among those
IEM Sao Paulo already had an insane crowd - maybe LCS NA should rename LCS Americas, open up for Brazil teams and make a roadtrip down there or something!
Travel and logistics would make it hard to coordinate. Maybe a LCS with teams from Brazil and Latin Am, a LCS with Turkey and CIS, and a LCS with SEA and Oceania. Event productions are definitely way more hype than studio productions.
Yeah, I wasn't really serious about that, in the end everyone would end up in one city anyway except for road trips.
Don't think any of those three "LCS" are going to happen. SEA/Oceania makes the most sense on paper, but the respective regions are run by different companies, and GPL is already very established (and probably in need of expanding/a makeover).
Running an LCS for CIS/Turkey doesn't really make sense, since the best EU-NE teams are already playing LCS (MYM, Gambit, multitude of scandinavian players) and have tried qualifying in the past (multiple polish teams, including Anexis and DB). I'd rather have Riot expand LCS EU slightly (12 teams, would require a new format) and invite the turkish champions/runer-ups to LCS qualifiers as well.
Not sure about the sponsorship situation in Latin America/Brazil, but I guess establishing an LCS there would take a considerable investment. Guess Riot will only take that step once the player base/their income from that region is big enough.
On July 22 2013 06:37 caelym wrote: out of curiosity, do you like commentary because the play by play makes things exciting or the analysis adds extra depth? for me, I still get the excitement from the energy and enthusiasm in the casters' voices. I get the analysis from talking about the games with you guys.
It's just something nice to hear while watching the game; rather than gibberish. The only commentary I can really stand that's non-English is Korean and Mandarin (only cuz I can pick up on a small bit of the commentary in Mandarin). In terms of analysis; I think Monte is the only commentator that actually does a good job. Everyone else is pretty trash. I like the play by play in English; but problem with NA LCS is they get the play by play wrong more often than right.
On July 22 2013 06:37 caelym wrote: out of curiosity, do you like commentary because the play by play makes things exciting or the analysis adds extra depth? for me, I still get the excitement from the energy and enthusiasm in the casters' voices. I get the analysis from talking about the games with you guys.
It's more or less the idea. Often even with NA the analysis isn't that deep but I still like the commentary because it "fills the space".
Again; not sure why the naut pick against Maokai. Really need to choose a jungler that can punish maokai in standard lanes; otherwise this shit happens.
On July 22 2013 06:48 caelym wrote: Did naut accidentally press flash? Takeshi is getting out-mid-ed by Kami really hard.
And out roamed.
What is lissandra building? O.o haunting guise? why stop the abyssal? It's against a double AP comp. Abyssal is the best thing she could buy right now.
Ughhhhhh; this CNB team is making me so sad right now. They lost at ban/pick phase. Now it's just a slaughter.
On July 22 2013 06:48 caelym wrote: Did naut accidentally press flash? Takeshi is getting out-mid-ed by Kami really hard.
And out roamed.
What is lissandra building? O.o haunting guise? why stop the abyssal? It's against a double AP comp. Abyssal is the best thing she could buy right now.
Ughhhhhh; this CNB team is making me so sad right now. They lost at ban/pick phase. Now it's just a slaughter.
CNB got off to a good start bot lane, but gragas and maokai have broad strong backs.
On July 22 2013 06:48 caelym wrote: Did naut accidentally press flash? Takeshi is getting out-mid-ed by Kami really hard.
And out roamed.
What is lissandra building? O.o haunting guise? why stop the abyssal? It's against a double AP comp. Abyssal is the best thing she could buy right now.
Ughhhhhh; this CNB team is making me so sad right now. They lost at ban/pick phase. Now it's just a slaughter.
CNB got off to a good start bot lane, but gragas and maokai have broad strong backs.
Even if CNB ran this team comp on even gold footing into 20-25 min mark. The second Pain gets into teamfight with CNB, Pain's team would just crap all over CNB.
Silver lining: Ez is building correctly.
LOL 1 gragas barrel = 40% of ez's health.
Did that blitz seriously pull in the Kennen with Zhonya's? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Pain needs to feel more confident in picking up baron when they're this far ahead.
I feel really sad now because I know how hard CNB trained for this. I'm not to saying paiN didn't put equally as much time and effort, just that I talk to Philip a lot and it's more personal
On July 22 2013 06:58 wei2coolman wrote: Silver lining: Ez is building correctly.
LOL 1 gragas barrel = 40% of ez's health. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
How so? Don't really understand BT Ezreal builds. If you want to deal damage directly, take Rekkles' build and go IE first. If you want to kite, you're needlessly delaying the more important stuff...
On July 22 2013 06:58 wei2coolman wrote: Silver lining: Ez is building correctly.
LOL 1 gragas barrel = 40% of ez's health. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
How so? Don't really understand BT Ezreal builds. If you want to deal damage directly, take Rekkles' build and go IE first. If you want to kite, you're needlessly delaying the more important stuff...
He's getting correct item; but the way he got there wasn't good. Should straight up get BT first before Tears; grab tears after BT. Try and extend laning phase as long as possible in the 2v2 (which should be pretty easy considering how rudimentary lane rotation and map control is from these teams).
On July 22 2013 07:09 wei2coolman wrote: Brazilian teams got a lot to work on; but mechanically they look pretty sound. That crowd is so insane >.<
Looks awesome.
Both AD carries need a lot of work to compete on the highest level. No stutterstepping/animation cancelling, some questionable positioning. Could chalk up some of that due to pressure, nerves and having been playing all day, though.
The crowd definitely deserves another huge international event to visit Brazil.
On July 22 2013 07:09 wei2coolman wrote: Brazilian teams got a lot to work on; but mechanically they look pretty sound. That crowd is so insane >.<
Looks awesome.
Both AD carries need a lot of work to compete on the highest level. No stutterstepping/animation cancelling, some questionable positioning. Could chalk up some of that due to pressure, nerves and having been playing all day, though.
The Vayne got grabbed soo many times; that Ez played out the level 2-3 gank really poorly. Could have easily grabbed double kill if he didn't mistime his barrier. I definitely agree with the ADC's needing work. But solo queue players will eventually emerge that will play at that level; the most important part is working out picks/ban, and how to play out the game.
I've been very impressed by the drafting this weekend. The execution and in-game adaptability could definitely improve. paiN's teamwork was pretty godlike the last few games.
On July 22 2013 07:15 caelym wrote: CNB, stop crying, you gonna make me cry too :'(
Seeing people cry like this is always so bittersweet for me. It makes me really happy because it shows their immense passion, but for obvious reasons it's sad at the same time to see someone cry. The Najin Sword post-game reactions were the same.
On July 22 2013 07:15 caelym wrote: I've been very impressed by the drafting this weekend. The execution and in-game adaptability could definitely improve. paiN's teamwork were pretty godlike the last few games.
Yes, Pain was the first team to get a gaming house in south america, and that he wanted to make the boys go to the top of the world, cause the winner, pain, is going to go to Gamescon, in germany for a chance to go to the world championship .
On July 22 2013 08:45 necrosed wrote: Teehee, interview interview :D
I don't know what you did with sirt, but congratulations, he improved so much since IEM Hannover, might be the second best player on Pain after Kami, who btw it's the next revelation on LOL scene together with Frekkles.
I warned you all, watch out for him, he's a monster.
Thanks guitarsaurus! We learned a lot from those two games we played against you guys. Really shifted our paradigms around. Now our objective is fixing some of our midgame movement. Espeon (our support) thanked you in portuguese during the winner's ceremony.
On July 22 2013 12:33 necrosed wrote: Thanks guitarsaurus! We learned a lot from those two games we played against you guys. Really shifted our paradigms around. Now our objective is fixing some of our midgame movement. Espeon (our support) thanked you in portuguese during the winner's ceremony.
that's what caelym told me i'm gonna watch vods of the tournament when i have time but congratulations!
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((( I thought we were friends, why do you intyerview my ARCHNEMESIS?
Definitely will tune in to this event.
