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On July 12 2013 10:48 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:38 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 12 2013 10:15 RagequitBM wrote:
Slusher is actually the prophet. He called Nami being strong so long ago. Praise. She's super fun to have as your support.
Sidenote: Having the name Bathroom is actually so cool. I feel like a celebrity. I get invites from people like everyday. She did get buffed slightly a few times, but yea; her strength was always really determined by how proficient you are with your Qs and whether your AD carry understands how to take advantage of your E buff. I think the Asian pros tend to max E since it's arguably stronger if you and your ad carry are in sync. Don't E and Q have set amounts of damage? If anything W has the most potential but is unreliable if you can't get max bounces which is like 90% of the time. But yeah, there's nothing weak about Nami if you can land Q's. Her Kit is above average for utility among supports.
oh if you get 3 bounces it's incredibly efficient in the sense that the combined damage and heal is a lot for 1 spell but the mana cost is pretty much in line with that and as such it's not as useful in lane
this is my favorite part of my guide lol
On March 11 2013 06:56 Slusher wrote:
I don't think this is a bad lane in the sense that it's extremely safe and cait with E does have pretty strong poke, top the 650 range off with Nami Q and W and basically force a farmfest in the bot lane, this might be a really good pick for teams where their mid lane is going to want to split push late game, but there are other supports paired with Cait who can do similar things in that situation and provide a lot more for her in lane.
Overall Score = 3
predicting the Korean meta npnp, to defend myself the Q stun duration is an extreme buff to this lane as you can follow up q with a trap now, so the pairing score is low compared to what it should be.
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On July 12 2013 09:44 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Can you gift the Team summoner icons? Because that would be an amazing way to BM Neo when TSM beats CLG.
I would never add you.
... not that your scenario would ever occur first of all. 
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I've been playing all the fiddle support I can.
I get mixed results mostly because people have no idea how to play with fiddle. I used to play fiddle support in the middle of Season 2, but stopped because everyone bitched. Now that people of the korean nation have played him, it's ok I guess. I just play him as a traditional support. With a 3 second stun and 6 seconds of silence. His ult, especially late game, doesn't really matter unless you're sitting on a squishy like the ad or enemy support. I find his uses much more useful for peeling or initiating with flash.
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On July 12 2013 11:31 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I've been playing all the fiddle support I can.
I get mixed results mostly because people have no idea how to play with fiddle. I used to play fiddle support in the middle of Season 2, but stopped because everyone bitched. Now that people of the korean nation have played him, it's ok I guess. I just play him as a traditional support. With a 3 second stun and 6 seconds of silence. His ult, especially late game, doesn't really matter unless you're sitting on a squishy like the ad or enemy support. I find his uses much more useful for peeling or initiating with flash.
What's your item build?
I default to Lulu/Sona the most. But Fiddle Support is where my heart is. It's definitely the most fun for me.
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As a side note from the vulcan vs. c9 game (ignoring the results from that game), I think if you go botrk into IE, you need to dump 730 on a crit cloak before/during LW, same as how you'd usually get a vamp sceptre somewhere in an IE->PD->LW build
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Boots+ruby sightstone+shur+locket, I don't think I've ever gotten more items then that.
People love blowing cd's to kill me, but if I get off my q and e, I've done my job. Fiddle is very low impact after he's done his job until cd's are back up. Janna wants to stay alive to keep putting out shields and peeling, but if you die, you die. Some people think that if fiddle doesn't ult you just removed a lot of his power. After watching the koreans play, fiddle ult is good, getting your q and e out is strictly more important. Fiddle isn't like sona, where getting her ult off is awesome, and you want to live to give out your aura, or like janna where you want to live to keep peeling. Fiddle's fear is ultimate length. Fiddles silence is only beaten by chogath silence. Very high impact spells. Get off more, win the game more, get off one, you've done your job. Fiddle is a very strange amalgamation of abilities. Similar to how different nunu played as jungle compared to support, fiddle is very different from jungle to support.
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thx got one -- says 'sold out' now though
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On July 12 2013 11:40 Vanka wrote:
As a side note from the vulcan vs. c9 game (ignoring the results from that game), I think if you go botrk into IE, you need to dump 730 on a crit cloak before/during LW, same as how you'd usually get a vamp sceptre somewhere in an IE->PD->LW build
It doesn't seem worth it to delay the amazing active on BotRK by 730 gold for some crit. Crit isn't very good until you get more AD to make it worth it.
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On July 12 2013 12:11 beefhamburger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 11:40 Vanka wrote:
As a side note from the vulcan vs. c9 game (ignoring the results from that game), I think if you go botrk into IE, you need to dump 730 on a crit cloak before/during LW, same as how you'd usually get a vamp sceptre somewhere in an IE->PD->LW build It doesn't seem worth it to delay the amazing active on BotRK by 730 gold for some crit. Crit isn't very good until you get more AD to make it worth it.
You misunderstand me. I'm talking about Botrk first item into IE. I'm talking about getting another crit cloak for the IE passive since your pd will be delayed/last item completed.
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On July 12 2013 10:48 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 10:38 Ryuu314 wrote:On July 12 2013 10:15 RagequitBM wrote:
Slusher is actually the prophet. He called Nami being strong so long ago. Praise. She's super fun to have as your support.
Sidenote: Having the name Bathroom is actually so cool. I feel like a celebrity. I get invites from people like everyday. She did get buffed slightly a few times, but yea; her strength was always really determined by how proficient you are with your Qs and whether your AD carry understands how to take advantage of your E buff. I think the Asian pros tend to max E since it's arguably stronger if you and your ad carry are in sync. Don't E and Q have set amounts of damage? If anything W has the most potential but is unreliable if you can't get max bounces which is like 90% of the time. But yeah, there's nothing weak about Nami if you can land Q's. Her Kit is above average for utility among supports.
Having a game where you hit all of your critical bubbles is so, so satisfying.
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On July 12 2013 11:34 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 11:31 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I've been playing all the fiddle support I can.
I get mixed results mostly because people have no idea how to play with fiddle. I used to play fiddle support in the middle of Season 2, but stopped because everyone bitched. Now that people of the korean nation have played him, it's ok I guess. I just play him as a traditional support. With a 3 second stun and 6 seconds of silence. His ult, especially late game, doesn't really matter unless you're sitting on a squishy like the ad or enemy support. I find his uses much more useful for peeling or initiating with flash. What's your item build? I default to Lulu/Sona the most. But Fiddle Support is where my heart is. It's definitely the most fun for me.
Fiddle Support is finicky; I really like him against auto attack heavy champions that scale poorly early on. Most noticeably against Ashe/Trist/etc. Thats when fears are the strongest. Early d-shield is also high effective, against these champs. 8 dmg + masteries = tons of dmg reduction from auto attacks; makes you a godly tank if you're outtrading with lifedrain.
In other notes; in a normal game; ran D-shield soraka at level 1; with Q at level 1. Laned with Corki.
zomg Early Mr shred is actually insane.
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this is completely offtopic, but is anyone going to M14 prerelease this weekend?
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On July 12 2013 12:18 Vanka wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 12:11 beefhamburger wrote:On July 12 2013 11:40 Vanka wrote:
As a side note from the vulcan vs. c9 game (ignoring the results from that game), I think if you go botrk into IE, you need to dump 730 on a crit cloak before/during LW, same as how you'd usually get a vamp sceptre somewhere in an IE->PD->LW build It doesn't seem worth it to delay the amazing active on BotRK by 730 gold for some crit. Crit isn't very good until you get more AD to make it worth it. You misunderstand me. I'm talking about Botrk first item into IE. I'm talking about getting another crit cloak for the IE passive since your pd will be delayed/last item completed.
Oh, I did misunderstand you. Sorry about that.
Most ADCs aim to get their three item core asap. Crit cloak would increase your damage only slightly in a way that delays a core item. You don't need that small bump in damage/crit by that point, you need armor pen instead.
People get an early vamp scepter when going IE->PD->LW out of necessity rather than preference. It helps you sustain in lane or between fights. You never really need more crit since it doesn't add any utility. You already have enough raw damage stats, you just need armor pen.
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wouldnt it be really handy if the spectator hud had something that alerted the spectator the game has finished
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On July 12 2013 12:51 caelym wrote:
this is completely offtopic, but is anyone going to M14 prerelease this weekend?
I had to cut mtg out of my budget. =/
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Take game seriously, play safe, ward - lose horribly.
Dick around, type lyircs in all chat, fuck up last hits because too busy dancing - win completely onesided.
gee gee gee gee
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On July 12 2013 13:04 Requizen wrote:Take game seriously, play safe, ward - lose horribly. Dick around, type lyircs in all chat, fuck up last hits because too busy dancing - win completely onesided. gee gee gee gee + Show Spoiler +
GG NO RE baby baby baby
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On July 12 2013 13:00 Kenpachi wrote:
wouldnt it be really handy if the spectator hud had something that alerted the spectator the game has finished
as long as they made it easy to cover with an overlay or toggle able.
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