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On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion.
Who says I want anyone to take me seriously?
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On June 15 2013 03:48 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +What about that Team Liquid site? Any good theory crafting fling around or only phat writeups from tournaments? Are people bummed out since they dissed LoL and threw themselves at DotA2? Show nested quote +There are decent champion discussion threads, but it's still filled with shitposting and low quality posts from either players with lack of experience and/or insight or just pointless posts here and there. How excited are you guys for Fairy type and sky battles?
The best type of troll.
Super excited.
On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion.
Having a more specific theory crafting thread could work. As long as we leave GD the way it is >_>
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We have MF AFK from lvl 1, our support Morgana is 1v2 vs Nami/Caitlyn until like 6min when MF comes back. She reconnects, goes back to lane, and after like 30s they get a double kill.
I really wonder how that was possible, didn't see it but it makes no sense. Pure 2v2 and they died mid-lane.
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On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion.
Meh, this is already the best thread for discussion on this entire site. I barely read any other threads anymore. I feel like it's still small enough where the people who know what they're talking about can still theorycraft and have meaningful discussions without getting lost in an ocean of idiocy and troll/spam posts.
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On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want
I'm obv D5. Yango's D1.
get real Cheep
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On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion.
I feel like team comp isn't usually something too talked about in GD; especially at pro levels.
And to be honest; I feel like we still do have serious league discussion, they're just not happening as often as they use to because of longer patch cycles.
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Theorycraft and analysis should have its own thread... I like the casual nature of general discussion.
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On June 15 2013 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion. I feel like team comp isn't usually something too talked about in GD; especially at pro levels. And to be honest; I feel like we still do have serious league discussion, they're just not happening as often as they use to because of longer patch cycles.
Yeah, kind of like how people were saying Curse's teamfight against C9 was shit yesterday when C9 really just had a way better team fight team. Curse had a pick off comp that worked early but they didn't close out the game hard enough.
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On June 15 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want I'm obv D5. Yango's D1. get real Cheep
No one's going to believe that, you have to say "Well I was D5, but I was too busy with real life stuff so got timed out and relegated down, I still have the understanding of the game."
Aw who am I kidding, no one would believe you got there in the first place.
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On June 15 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want I'm obv D5. Yango's D1. get real Cheep
Demolished
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On June 15 2013 04:05 caelym wrote:
Theorycraft and analysis should have its own thread... I like the casual nature of general discussion.
It's an interesting concept, how certain picks affect other picks and how some champions might become viable completely unexpectedly because of some specific teamcomp interaction. I see so little team building based around champions that have obvious weaknesses and then building a team that has champions negating those weaknesses or allowing the others to play to their strenghts, for example.
Let's say Fiora, she wrecks face but gets hardcountered by hard CC, throw in a Morgana and suddenly that becomes a nonissue. I feel like people aren't creative enough.
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On June 15 2013 04:08 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want I'm obv D5. Yango's D1. get real Cheep Demolished
Oh yeah you posting just reminded me.
Were you removed from the featured streams on the sidebar?
I saw you were streaming last night but you weren't up there.
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On June 15 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want I'm obv D5. Yango's D1. get real Cheep
How much did u pay to get boosted? Is the guy trustworthy? I want epeen too
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On June 15 2013 04:09 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:05 caelym wrote:
Theorycraft and analysis should have its own thread... I like the casual nature of general discussion. It's an interesting concept, how certain picks affect other picks and how some champions might become viable completely unexpectedly because of some specific teamcomp interaction. I see so little team building based around champions that have obvious weaknesses and then building a team that has champions negating those weaknesses or allowing the others to play to their strenghts, for example. Let's say Fiora, she wrecks face but gets hardcountered by hard CC, throw in a Morgana and suddenly that becomes a nonissue. I feel like people aren't creative enough.
People did that with Kat+ Support Morg when Kat was still strong. Its not unexplored. Fiora is just hard to make work because of real limitations.
I dont see the point of most LOL theorycrafting though. It always ends up telling us something stupid like Heimerdinger + Morde bot is totally awesome.
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On June 15 2013 04:10 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:08 HazMat wrote:On June 15 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want I'm obv D5. Yango's D1. get real Cheep Demolished Oh yeah you posting just reminded me. Were you removed from the featured streams on the sidebar? I saw you were streaming last night but you weren't up there.
No idea. Could be an inactivity thing? Or TL just hates League because elitist.
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On June 15 2013 04:07 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:05 wei2coolman wrote:On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion. I feel like team comp isn't usually something too talked about in GD; especially at pro levels. And to be honest; I feel like we still do have serious league discussion, they're just not happening as often as they use to because of longer patch cycles. Yeah, kind of like how people were saying Curse's teamfight against C9 was shit yesterday when C9 really just had a way better team fight team. Curse had a pick off comp that worked early but they didn't close out the game hard enough.
I always find it weird when teams play fight comps/small skirmish comps. I feel like the trade off inability to truly initiate a 5v5 team is too great.
Also, Vulcan's Nasus jungle delayed VES's towerpushing strategy enough; while grabbing enough farm on essential carries, that eventually allowed them to beat VES. (But I also felt that it was largely in part VES's fault for trying to force the issue of shoving towers as fast as possible after seeing how strong nasus' wave clear was on top.)
On June 15 2013 04:14 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:09 Shikyo wrote:On June 15 2013 04:05 caelym wrote:
Theorycraft and analysis should have its own thread... I like the casual nature of general discussion. It's an interesting concept, how certain picks affect other picks and how some champions might become viable completely unexpectedly because of some specific teamcomp interaction. I see so little team building based around champions that have obvious weaknesses and then building a team that has champions negating those weaknesses or allowing the others to play to their strenghts, for example. Let's say Fiora, she wrecks face but gets hardcountered by hard CC, throw in a Morgana and suddenly that becomes a nonissue. I feel like people aren't creative enough. People did that with Kat+ Support Morg when Kat was still strong. Its not unexplored. Fiora is just hard to make work because of real limitations. I dont see the point of most LOL theorycrafting though. It always ends up telling us something stupid like Heimerdinger + Morde bot is totally awesome.
Fiora feels sort of wonky; she's got two small gap closer (q twice); and her Ulti, and a move speed steroid everytime she hits someone. But I feel like it's really hard to stick onto someone with just purely auto attack. I almost feel obligated to shove in a Frozenmallet just to stick on people.
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I'll probably get around to fixing the Featured status for certain League streamers next week. That reminds me... poll time. brb
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On June 15 2013 04:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 15 2013 03:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
if you had a diamond forum neo and yango among others won't be able to post
not sure if want I'm obv D5. Yango's D1. get real Cheep How much did u pay to get boosted? Is the guy trustworthy? I want epeen too
I can attest to the fact that Neo didn't get boosted. Hey, neither did Destiny. What's your excuse mate?
inb4 Draven free win no skill (he is)
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On June 15 2013 04:14 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 04:09 Shikyo wrote:On June 15 2013 04:05 caelym wrote:
Theorycraft and analysis should have its own thread... I like the casual nature of general discussion. It's an interesting concept, how certain picks affect other picks and how some champions might become viable completely unexpectedly because of some specific teamcomp interaction. I see so little team building based around champions that have obvious weaknesses and then building a team that has champions negating those weaknesses or allowing the others to play to their strenghts, for example. Let's say Fiora, she wrecks face but gets hardcountered by hard CC, throw in a Morgana and suddenly that becomes a nonissue. I feel like people aren't creative enough. People did that with Kat+ Support Morg when Kat was still strong. Its not unexplored. Fiora is just hard to make work because of real limitations. I dont see the point of most LOL theorycrafting though. It always ends up telling us something stupid like Heimerdinger + Morde bot is totally awesome.
Honestly, I don't think there's too much room for theory crafting team compositions because the kits are mostly very similar to each other. Strategies like split pushing and hard initiating have happened frequently in the past, but overall I think the focus is mostly on laning and early skirmishing (like when counterjungling was popular)
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On June 15 2013 04:00 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2013 03:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
We don't necessarily need a "Diamonds Only" subforum but just a more analytical approach to the game. tbh, TL GD is just a bunch of guys shooting the shit and we talk about a ton of random shit, like pokemon.
If we want to be taken more seriously, then perhaps we should do more srs League discussion. Who says I want anyone to take me seriously?
its okay, nobody does
gg
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