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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:03 mr_tolkien wrote: Looking at Aarox kit I see : Very high AS naturally Good AD scaling No need for sustain Isn't an IE like CRAZY GOOD on him ? unless riot decides to add BKB I don't really see that as a feasible prospect | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
typically you'd expect resist/onhit would be better since his scaling isn't AD it's on hit also so it doesn't actually crit so botrk +resist items seems like it would be the best the reason megazero got trinity was because staying in range is going to be a big issue with 2 long cooldown gapslowers/slow frozen mallet would probably be a better buy here or even better if you want damage ghostblade i reckon | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Mega got a mallet in a later game which worked pretty well.Dunno unless you are trynd I think bruiser>damage/crit focus.He does so much damage anyway why not make him immortal? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
his base hp is low because of his free ga but his attack speed scaling and base is pretty decent as is his armour and ad | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:13 Disengaged wrote: Nasus seems to be a pretty damn good counter to Aatrox believe it or not. Nasus a counter to auto attack reliant champs? Shocker... | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:18 jcarlsoniv wrote: Nasus a counter to auto attack reliant champs? Shocker... SO MEAN. I imagine the sustain helps to weather Aatrox's own as well. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
farm 500 on q get 420 armour and yolo blaze it in teamfights | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:50 ticklishmusic wrote: Lissandra support isn't terrible. Her range isn't great, but level 6 you can explode a squishy kind of like Annie support. Before that though you're kind of useless, can't do much except a little poke with Q, which tends to push lane as well.. Can't zyra do the same but with greater range and utility. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:37 mr_tolkien wrote: And what about hydra instead of BotrK ? I really dislike BotrK when he got already such a big AS + good AD scaling :/ you dont buy botrk for the attack speed 1 - it's an anti kiting item, its a slow and a nuke and a speed boost, basically a trinity force all into 1 proc 2 - it's an AD item more than it's an AS item by far. 5% of current hp is over 50 AD as long as the target has more than 1k and lower than 1 k you have ignite and 1 combo to finish anyway. so it gives 75~ or more AD 3 - it's a really good lifesteal item since both your autos and the active steal life hydra would be absolutely retarded compared to botrk here i think botrk is the most overpowered item in the game actually im just waiting for it to be nerfed. It's basically cost effective without the up to 150 AD and insane active it has. wtf? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:54 Numy wrote: Can't zyra do the same but with greater range and utility. Zyra is honestly my worst support, so I don't know too much about how she works. She has good poke and zoning (never could get her to work for me sadly) but Lissandra can burst someone down in addition to having some disengage. She scales really nicely with CDR, and having double stun and a slow is pretty nice. I've been going Sighstone into Athene's/ Twin Shadows. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On June 14 2013 22:56 Slayer91 wrote: you dont buy botrk for the attack speed 1 - it's an anti kiting item, its a slow and a nuke and a speed boost, basically a trinity force all into 1 proc 2 - it's an AD item more than it's an AS item by far. 5% of current hp is over 50 AD as long as the target has more than 1k and lower than 1 k you have ignite and 1 combo to finish anyway. so it gives 75~ or more AD 3 - it's a really good lifesteal item since both your autos and the active steal life hydra would be absolutely retarded compared to botrk here i think botrk is the most overpowered item in the game actually im just waiting for it to be nerfed. It's basically cost effective without the up to 150 AD and insane active it has. wtf? «2 - it's an AD item more than it's an AS item by far. 5% of current hp is over 50 AD as long as the target has more than 1k and lower than 1 k you have ignite and 1 combo to finish anyway. so it gives 75~ or more AD» Well no it's not AD, it's damage on your autos. Aatrox has very good AD scaling by himself, and his combos benefits a lot from having 75AD for real from Hydra. I'll do the maths because I'm curious anyway, but I'm pretty sure Hydra out-damages BotrK pretty hard as well as offering more pushing power and teamfight presence. | ||
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On June 14 2013 23:22 Noro wrote: Played against my first Aatrox opponent. He built tanky and it went horribly for him. He managed to escape once or twice with his passive, and even managed to take an early lead against our garen. Once the game got to 15+ mins, he couldn't do anything. Big mistake on his part! Someone pulled a "release week Riven" on Aatrox. On June 14 2013 23:25 Numy wrote: The one I played went damage and just shat on our ADC every fight. He got it. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 14 2013 23:27 nafta wrote: But how do you shit on an adc as aatrox lol?His jump is interuptable by anything and his range is low >.>. Always flanked or came in after an engagement. Never straight up engaged himself. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 14 2013 23:11 mr_tolkien wrote: «2 - it's an AD item more than it's an AS item by far. 5% of current hp is over 50 AD as long as the target has more than 1k and lower than 1 k you have ignite and 1 combo to finish anyway. so it gives 75~ or more AD» Well no it's not AD, it's damage on your autos. Aatrox has very good AD scaling by himself, and his combos benefits a lot from having 75AD for real from Hydra. I'll do the maths because I'm curious anyway, but I'm pretty sure Hydra out-damages BotrK pretty hard as well as offering more pushing power and teamfight presence. don't be ridiuclous his ad scaling is atrocious lee sin has 5.0 scaling from his AD this guy? 1.2 hydra gives 50 more dmg than botrk, thats 60 damage from your Q E. Also 60 damage every 3rd hit which is 20 extra AD which is only good if the target has super low health otherwise botrk does more damage PER HIT as well as having 40% bonus attack speed and the proc which is the main reason you buy the item the only "ad scaling" is actually on hit scaling because he has high attack speed l0l at hydra having more teamfight presence. wat | ||
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