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On June 14 2013 16:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 16:48 silencefc wrote:
So I've been playing Zyra support as much as I can and I'm really enjoying it due to the damage, cc, and area control.
But, what if... support Lissandra? She has a poke that slows, an AoE root, an escape, and a point & click stun. Is this capable of being a regular pick or would it only see fringe play like support Morgana? fringe or not at all iw ould say, main reason is zyra has all that control from a million range, but lissandra has to get up close, and her laning isn't exactly great; q is basically useless cause it's so short ranged/bad base damage/average slow, and e and w exposes her far too much to danger before she hits 6, which will take a while as a support. no real reason to pick lissandra over a zyra/thresh like support.
Ah k. I haven't actually played Lissandra, just looked at her spell descriptions. I've gotten the impression that her Q range is pretty short but on paper it outranges all targeted support abilities, Hymn of Valor, and Zenith Blade.
W is a really short range so it'd only be used to initiate all-ins or to peel and E out.
I guess she'd only be useful against melee supports, and even then there'd be better options. I just want another fun support vs Nunu because Consume 1-shots Zyra's plants.
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On June 14 2013 16:58 Mondeezy wrote:
Is there anywhere to watch Korean SoloQ streams?
I know Maknoon streamed on Twitch a bit but I don't really see any games on there from kr, but I'm curious to see the play style difference outside of tournament play.
There is this korean streaming site called afreecatv, that's where all the koreans stream, although there are hardly any korean progamers streaming.
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Noooo, I really liked Reapered 
On June 14 2013 16:58 Mondeezy wrote:
Is there anywhere to watch Korean SoloQ streams?
I know Maknoon streamed on Twitch a bit but I don't really see any games on there from kr, but I'm curious to see the play style difference outside of tournament play.
Also woud like to know this. Anyone?
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Seriously guys. Start Doran Shield + 1pot every single game as ADC from now on. It's hilarious.
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On June 14 2013 17:19 Sufficiency wrote:
Seriously guys. Start Doran Shield + 1pot every single game as ADC from now on. It's hilarious.
wait, what? I'm not too familiar with the changes yet, what makes this good?
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On June 14 2013 17:20 [Evo] Journey wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 17:19 Sufficiency wrote:
Seriously guys. Start Doran Shield + 1pot every single game as ADC from now on. It's hilarious. wait, what? I'm not too familiar with the changes yet, what makes this good?
It reduces an extra two damage from normal attacks... and cheaper overall (no more armor though). With masteries and Doran Shield, you reduce normal attack damage by 13... every autoattack against you in the early game does like 30 damage it's funny.
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On June 14 2013 16:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 16:48 silencefc wrote:
So I've been playing Zyra support as much as I can and I'm really enjoying it due to the damage, cc, and area control.
But, what if... support Lissandra? She has a poke that slows, an AoE root, an escape, and a point & click stun. Is this capable of being a regular pick or would it only see fringe play like support Morgana? fringe or not at all iw ould say, main reason is zyra has all that control from a million range, but lissandra has to get up close, and her laning isn't exactly great; q is basically useless cause it's so short ranged/bad base damage/average slow, and e and w exposes her far too much to danger before she hits 6, which will take a while as a support. no real reason to pick lissandra over a zyra/thresh like support.
Edward disagrees
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43719505#ranked-stats
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On June 14 2013 17:33 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 16:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 16:48 silencefc wrote:
So I've been playing Zyra support as much as I can and I'm really enjoying it due to the damage, cc, and area control.
But, what if... support Lissandra? She has a poke that slows, an AoE root, an escape, and a point & click stun. Is this capable of being a regular pick or would it only see fringe play like support Morgana? fringe or not at all iw ould say, main reason is zyra has all that control from a million range, but lissandra has to get up close, and her laning isn't exactly great; q is basically useless cause it's so short ranged/bad base damage/average slow, and e and w exposes her far too much to danger before she hits 6, which will take a while as a support. no real reason to pick lissandra over a zyra/thresh like support. Edward disagrees http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43719505#ranked-stats
meh its NA solo q as far as evidence towards viability/unviability, it's pretty much the most worthless source lol
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Is khasiz stronger or worse now ? I dont understsand the nerfs and dont play the champion myself.
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On June 14 2013 17:39 Advocado wrote:
Is khasiz stronger or worse now ? I dont understsand the nerfs and dont play the champion myself.
His evolved Q is freaking retarded right now, as far as I can tell.
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On June 14 2013 17:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 17:33 Kuja900 wrote:On June 14 2013 16:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 16:48 silencefc wrote:
So I've been playing Zyra support as much as I can and I'm really enjoying it due to the damage, cc, and area control.
But, what if... support Lissandra? She has a poke that slows, an AoE root, an escape, and a point & click stun. Is this capable of being a regular pick or would it only see fringe play like support Morgana? fringe or not at all iw ould say, main reason is zyra has all that control from a million range, but lissandra has to get up close, and her laning isn't exactly great; q is basically useless cause it's so short ranged/bad base damage/average slow, and e and w exposes her far too much to danger before she hits 6, which will take a while as a support. no real reason to pick lissandra over a zyra/thresh like support. Edward disagrees http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43719505#ranked-stats meh its NA solo q as far as evidence towards viability/unviability, it's pretty much the most worthless source lol
Its like 1/4th na rest eu solo que
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On June 14 2013 17:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 17:33 Kuja900 wrote:On June 14 2013 16:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 16:48 silencefc wrote:
So I've been playing Zyra support as much as I can and I'm really enjoying it due to the damage, cc, and area control.
But, what if... support Lissandra? She has a poke that slows, an AoE root, an escape, and a point & click stun. Is this capable of being a regular pick or would it only see fringe play like support Morgana? fringe or not at all iw ould say, main reason is zyra has all that control from a million range, but lissandra has to get up close, and her laning isn't exactly great; q is basically useless cause it's so short ranged/bad base damage/average slow, and e and w exposes her far too much to danger before she hits 6, which will take a while as a support. no real reason to pick lissandra over a zyra/thresh like support. Edward disagrees http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43719505#ranked-stats meh its NA solo q as far as evidence towards viability/unviability, it's pretty much the most worthless source lol
Played vs it last week vs Edward, Lizzandra support is very strong and viable but you cannot compare it to Zyra. The way he plays it is with mass roaming and clearing objectives not a stay in lane and play like Zyra, however she is strong in laningphase and has great escape and pressure. In conclusion it was extremely scary with her strong mobility to other lanes and he carried that game as support. 
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with the Aatrox being released, which hero's IP got discounted this time?
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On June 14 2013 17:55 justiceknight wrote:
with the Aatrox being released, which hero's IP got discounted this time?
Talon - 4800
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On June 14 2013 16:05 Kinie wrote:
Is Aatrox worth throwing the 5-10$ into, like can I treat him like a solo top Riven and just wreck face because of how OP/broken some of his skills are (like his W seems amazing when it gets below 50% hp), possibly to the point of getting free wins?
My random thoughts:
-He feels like Riven a lot. His ult gives him a riven like quality and your teamfighting strategy is similar, though less balls-to-the-wall.
-He's more fragile I think. He doesn't have a shield so he has to position better than Riven.
I think he's really great until mid/late game where there is higher potential for him to get burst comboed by some AP and people are harder to stick on.
-You can jungle no leash with Doran's Blade and offensive runes/masteries (19/11/0).
-His ganks with the health reservoir are about as scary as Zac's.
-BotRK seems absolutely mandatory for him.
-His E and R have "ap tryndamere" weirdass ap ratios. Gives his E ~400 magic damage every 6 seconds with nashor's tooth and deathcap. It's not much, but you can't really do anything about the poke. Max rank ult is 42 seconds with 40% cdr. You can instagib people /w QER + Deathcap or Lichbane. Only problem is late game the AP/CDR build can't sustain hp when spamming abilities.
-His Q can go over the really hard part at Top/Bot and can go into the bush for the stealth gank. It has same mechanics as flash in that it will punch through things if you make it over 50% through the collision raycast.
-W toggle or proc doesn't affect sheen.
-Mana is the only wasted stat with Trinity. It seems like a good choice on him but it's hard to work into the midgame build.
-AFAIK The health reservoir is level based and cannot be increased. It's ~800 HP at lvl 18.
-It looks like he doesnt' benefit from lifesteal on the hit from either proc of his W, which means lifesteal is technically 66% as effective on him over time.
-His W damage proc doesn't crit. Your normal attack can crit, and you'll see the W's damage pop up as well. So W is always added, never multiplied.
-You can auto immediately after landing with Q.
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On June 14 2013 17:48 Kuja900 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2013 17:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 17:33 Kuja900 wrote:On June 14 2013 16:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On June 14 2013 16:48 silencefc wrote:
So I've been playing Zyra support as much as I can and I'm really enjoying it due to the damage, cc, and area control.
But, what if... support Lissandra? She has a poke that slows, an AoE root, an escape, and a point & click stun. Is this capable of being a regular pick or would it only see fringe play like support Morgana? fringe or not at all iw ould say, main reason is zyra has all that control from a million range, but lissandra has to get up close, and her laning isn't exactly great; q is basically useless cause it's so short ranged/bad base damage/average slow, and e and w exposes her far too much to danger before she hits 6, which will take a while as a support. no real reason to pick lissandra over a zyra/thresh like support. Edward disagrees http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43719505#ranked-stats meh its NA solo q as far as evidence towards viability/unviability, it's pretty much the most worthless source lol Its like 1/4th na rest eu solo que
That page is clearly his NA account, and its stats. I legit feel like I just got trolled.
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He transfered his eu to na and namechanged
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Has it been 2 days since the patch hit other servers? Garena...why no patch yet?
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dont really understand the SKT T1 change
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