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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 04:40:22
June 22 2013 04:29 GMT
#3081
Why are some TL+ posters' posts in orange, but not others?

Nvm I get it now. Hidden +1 function

EDIT2: Ooh, thanks Yango. I thought it was the + thing, guess that denotes gifting.
cool beans
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 22 2013 04:31 GMT
#3082
On June 22 2013 13:29 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Why are some TL+ posters' posts in orange, but not others?

Orange posts are for posts that user was specifically gifted TL+ for (using the Gift TL+ link in that post's header).
Moderator
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 22 2013 04:33 GMT
#3083
It's in MiR.
The post was a test post, real one is posted. The trial post is stored.
It's the same thing we do with our TL LoL write-ups.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 22 2013 04:37 GMT
#3084
James: [image loading]
dreamhack viewer graph
blue = LoL
purple = dota
teal = sc2
LoL between games is about equal to peak SC2/DotA
LOL

/schadenfreude
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
June 22 2013 04:42 GMT
#3085
Neo isn't TL+...
cool beans
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 22 2013 04:43 GMT
#3086
has anyone played on PBE recently? tower range seems to have been increased
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
June 22 2013 04:43 GMT
#3087
On June 22 2013 13:42 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Neo isn't TL+...


It's too noticeable for the darkness.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 04:54:49
June 22 2013 04:53 GMT
#3088
I'd love to get TL+, but I won't, not until LoL gets the love it deserves.

EDIT: Should we hold off on gifting Neo TL+, presumedly because staff will get it free?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 22 2013 04:57 GMT
#3089
On June 22 2013 13:53 ChaoSbringer wrote:
I'd love to get TL+, but I won't, not until LoL gets the love it deserves.

EDIT: Should we hold off on gifting Neo TL+, presumedly because staff will get it free?

Yeah, don't do that lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 22 2013 05:04 GMT
#3090
On June 22 2013 13:25 TheYango wrote:
The proper way for a jungler to get farm is for them to transition into a farming role after the early game. Farming should not cause the jungler to neglect the pressure they're actually supposed to apply in the early game.

Particularly with lane swaps reducing the expected farm on an off-laner and the fact that the champ pool for top and jungle have always been somewhat similar/overlapping, it should not be that unnatural for a jungler to take the farm that the off-laner would otherwise have taken midgame, or for them to find a distribution of farm between the two of them that allows them both to finish key items. The only thing preventing this is the communication/social dynamic within teams--where the junglers are just *used* to not getting that farm and the off-laners are *used* to taking it.


Bolded part is kinda the issue I was referring to. This is not really a balance QQ, just a general musing. But, assuming buffs are not up (and they rarely are) + dragon is not a legit option for the enemy team (also, tbh a significant part of the game), a failed gank is worth more than the equivalent time farming camps.
On June 22 2013 13:26 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 13:16 cLutZ wrote:
On June 22 2013 12:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
I remember a week ago someone complained that there was only two ways to play junglers: gankers and farmers and the only champion who might qualify as a control jungler would be Nunu. I think we should wait a bit. If control jungling is good then maybe Shaco will also make a comeback. That guy is slippery and I've had games where he stole all my buffs even when I warded them and pinged for my allies to come because stealth flash op.


On June 22 2013 12:01 Gahlo wrote:
To make counter jungling more effective? To have derpmode laners not completely screw up a leash? idk.


Who are these "farmers"? From my EXP, and watching LCS/OGN the only kind of jungler that is nearly 100% ineffective is the farming jungler.

Obviously ganking/diving is strong, and counterjungling is also very effective, in that it sets back junglers trying to gank/dive/farm.

Unfortunately Riot doesn't balance around what is going on at the highest levels.


The problem is actually worse at lower levels where punishing failed ganks on other parts of the map is more difficult.

Freeeeeeedom
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
June 22 2013 05:06 GMT
#3091
Wait so regular posters can't report anymore? lol
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 05:09:29
June 22 2013 05:08 GMT
#3092
On June 22 2013 14:06 HazMat wrote:
Wait so regular posters can't report anymore? lol

they can. as you'll notice by your still existent 'report' option. It's only if your account is less than 1k posts and 1 year.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 22 2013 05:09 GMT
#3093
On June 22 2013 13:25 TheYango wrote:
The proper way for a jungler to get farm is for them to transition into a farming role after the early game. Farming should not cause the jungler to neglect the pressure they're actually supposed to apply in the early game.

Particularly with lane swaps reducing the expected farm on an off-laner and the fact that the champ pool for top and jungle have always been somewhat similar/overlapping, it should not be that unnatural for a jungler to take the farm that the off-laner would otherwise have taken midgame, or for them to find a distribution of farm between the two of them that allows them both to finish key items. The only thing preventing this is the communication/social dynamic within teams--where the junglers are just *used* to not getting that farm and the off-laners are *used* to taking it.

I think it really depends though; there are definitely situations where applying lane pressure instead of farming can back fire pretty hard. But in current 2v1 lane roles I definitely see what you're saying. I think thats why we see a resurgence of Nasus; cuz he can just Spirit Fire a wave and walk right away. It was exceptionally effective in the Vulcan vs Ves match back in superweek.
liftlift > tsm
Aldrovandi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States211 Posts
June 22 2013 05:19 GMT
#3094
On June 22 2013 14:08 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 14:06 HazMat wrote:
Wait so regular posters can't report anymore? lol

they can. as you'll notice by your still existent 'report' option. It's only if your account is less than 1k posts and 1 year.


It's just a one year requirement, I can report people.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
June 22 2013 05:20 GMT
#3095
On June 22 2013 13:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
James: [image loading]
dreamhack viewer graph
blue = LoL
purple = dota
teal = sc2
LoL between games is about equal to peak SC2/DotA
LOL

/schadenfreude

Wow that is some pretty ridiculous numbers, didn't expect dota to be so popular. Must be because I play LoL and don't pay much attention to the scene,
Jaedong :D
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 22 2013 05:23 GMT
#3096
On June 22 2013 14:19 Aldrovandi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 14:08 Dgiese wrote:
On June 22 2013 14:06 HazMat wrote:
Wait so regular posters can't report anymore? lol

they can. as you'll notice by your still existent 'report' option. It's only if your account is less than 1k posts and 1 year.


It's just a one year requirement, I can report people.

Reported.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
June 22 2013 05:28 GMT
#3097
On June 22 2013 05:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:03 TheYango wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:52 Scip wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:44 Clinic wrote:
is there a particular reason why a diamond-only or similar forum doesn't exist?

The authorities don't want to and there is very little demand from diamond only players too as strategy discussions rarely happen at all.

Most of the well-known Diamond posters don't initiate discussions, IMO--they just chime in when someone else says something stupid.

Tbh I want to post well thought-out messages very often but I feel like there is no place for it.

GD is really nice but things just go too fast and un-noticed. Why would I take 2 hours+ to write an interesting post when nobody will be able to find it again anyways ? It will spark discussion for 2/3 pages at most and then nobody will be able to find it again.


See this. See how it is getting buried? Diamond+ forum pls. Or plat+ if u "need ppl to spark discussion".
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 22 2013 05:48 GMT
#3098
Challenger+ only. The rest of the plebs can look from afar.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 22 2013 05:49 GMT
#3099
On June 22 2013 14:28 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:03 TheYango wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:52 Scip wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:44 Clinic wrote:
is there a particular reason why a diamond-only or similar forum doesn't exist?

The authorities don't want to and there is very little demand from diamond only players too as strategy discussions rarely happen at all.

Most of the well-known Diamond posters don't initiate discussions, IMO--they just chime in when someone else says something stupid.

Tbh I want to post well thought-out messages very often but I feel like there is no place for it.

GD is really nice but things just go too fast and un-noticed. Why would I take 2 hours+ to write an interesting post when nobody will be able to find it again anyways ? It will spark discussion for 2/3 pages at most and then nobody will be able to find it again.


See this. See how it is getting buried? Diamond+ forum pls. Or plat+ if u "need ppl to spark discussion".



Why dont open a new thread?
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 05:50:50
June 22 2013 05:49 GMT
#3100
On June 22 2013 14:28 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:23 mr_tolkien wrote:
On June 22 2013 05:03 TheYango wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:52 Scip wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:44 Clinic wrote:
is there a particular reason why a diamond-only or similar forum doesn't exist?

The authorities don't want to and there is very little demand from diamond only players too as strategy discussions rarely happen at all.

Most of the well-known Diamond posters don't initiate discussions, IMO--they just chime in when someone else says something stupid.

Tbh I want to post well thought-out messages very often but I feel like there is no place for it.

GD is really nice but things just go too fast and un-noticed. Why would I take 2 hours+ to write an interesting post when nobody will be able to find it again anyways ? It will spark discussion for 2/3 pages at most and then nobody will be able to find it again.


See this. See how it is getting buried? Diamond+ forum pls. Or plat+ if u "need ppl to spark discussion".

Right after this post people suggested starting a dedicated thread in the Strategy subforum for whatever kind of discussions he wanted to start. GD moves incredibly fast but there are other avenues for discussing narrow topics, ones that don't require excluding people simply based on their rating. If some shitty Bronze player tries to lend their opinion and they are wrong there's nothing stopping anyone from picking apart what is wrong with their logic. And if they still don't see the light, who cares, they are wrong and will probably never improve at LoL. Our community is small as it is, we don't need further segregation.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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