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On May 20 2013 13:08 Lmui wrote:
I just had a revelation. Come next patch, Shaco is the only jungler in the game who will be capable of taking a small camp and a buff camp at level 1 simultaneously. I don't think this has any serious implications but it's something to note.
I can't say I'm happy about the changes. This is huge for junglers who are blue reliant for first clear. inb4 invades galore. always lee sin and invade lvl 1 never not lee sin and not invade lvl 1.
As far as the respawn on smaller camps goes:
Always shyvana and farm, never not shyvana and farm.
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Invades are hilarious and I miss them so I welcome the change.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Ohh damn, the camps respawning faster is frigging awesome, can't wait for the farmskarner.
Funny Style Bro gonna get challanger with his jungle Yi after the changes LO
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On May 20 2013 16:33 Scip wrote:
Ohh damn, the camps respawning faster is frigging awesome, can't wait for the farmskarner.
Funny Style Bro gonna get challanger with his jungle Yi after the changes LO
I wonder what killed Skarner? was it that flash-ulti interaction?
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This league system is so bad anyway, I don't find any reason why they changed it.. Couldn't they at least implement Demotion Series : if you lose too much you have to win like 2 out of 5 games to stay in your tier ? It would at least prevent people from getting boosted or trolling when they're in the division V of a tier.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On May 20 2013 16:39 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 16:33 Scip wrote:
Ohh damn, the camps respawning faster is frigging awesome, can't wait for the farmskarner.
Funny Style Bro gonna get challanger with his jungle Yi after the changes LO I wonder what killed Skarner? was it that flash-ulti interaction?
4 second longer cooldown on his W, mostly and Shurelyas nerf/introduction of Spirit Stone.
The ult change hurt but not THAT much.
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WTB PBE update so I can test and see which junglers are actually capable of capitalizing on faster spawns.
On May 20 2013 16:47 Lylat wrote:
This league system is so bad anyway, I don't find any reason why they changed it.. Couldn't they at least implement Demotion Series : if you lose too much you have to win like 2 out of 5 games to stay in your tier ? It would at least prevent people from getting boosted or trolling when they're in the division V of a tier.
How is a demotion series going to stop someone in Bronze V from MMR trolling?
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I really like the changes to the spawn time. Hopefully it helps even up the early game so that the blue side on bot doesn't automatically get free damage at level 2.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
Junglers who cant solo wraiths will be comparatively better off on blue side.
AKA RAMMUS RAMMUS OP
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So it looks like shyvanna / skarner are going to become viable again with the patch?
Damn, my champion pool is too big xD
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On May 20 2013 17:59 Scip wrote:
Junglers who cant solo wraiths will be comparatively better off on blue side.
AKA RAMMUS RAMMUS OP
Hi scip.
Wanna duo?
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Help someone give me tips on how to carry plzplzplz
The weird thing is, if I'm even or behind going into mid-lategame I somewhat know what to do, but when I'm really ahead but the rest of the team is even or behind I really don't know what to do.
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On May 20 2013 20:29 Fildun wrote:
Help someone give me tips on how to carry plzplzplz
The weird thing is, if I'm even or behind going into mid-lategame I somewhat know what to do, but when I'm really ahead but the rest of the team is even or behind I really don't know what to do.
Build a defensive item and kill shiet.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On May 20 2013 20:29 Fildun wrote:
Help someone give me tips on how to carry plzplzplz
The weird thing is, if I'm even or behind going into mid-lategame I somewhat know what to do, but when I'm really ahead but the rest of the team is even or behind I really don't know what to do.
Wards and objectives.
If you start to get ahead, start grabbing a bunch of wards, grab a teammate and ward up dragon, baron, and their buffs/jungle. Be careful about warding on your own. Even if you're fed, you can still be killed. You can then catch people when they are running around alone or force objectives far away. If you see them near dragon or bot, push top, mid or try baron.
Get your teammates to help place wards with you and roam as 5. As soon as you catch someone out, take an objective or two. Then back, buy, and repeat! Eventually they'll start grouping. Continue to ward their jungle and objectives. When you see an opportunity, you should be able to force a 5v5 and crush them. If you can, finish the game, otherwise grab baron and some other objectives.
Keep timers on everything you can!! Buffs spawn 5 minutes after they are taken, Dragon is 6, and Baron is 7. Letting your team know their/your buffs are up in a minute or that dragon/baron will be up in 30 seconds is important.
Push out the sidelanes too. When your sidelanes are pushing, force down middle. This makes them deal with minions battering down their outside towers, or your team killing their mid shit.
And don't underestimate the power of you denying their vision. Especially as Eve, you can grab an oracles and clear the map of wards. Or just grab a pink for Baron/Dragon.
For the most part, if you are doing well, your team will listen. If they aren't then either you're a dick or your whole team is. The former you can change, the latter is just bad luck.
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On May 20 2013 20:40 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 20:29 Fildun wrote:
Help someone give me tips on how to carry plzplzplz
The weird thing is, if I'm even or behind going into mid-lategame I somewhat know what to do, but when I'm really ahead but the rest of the team is even or behind I really don't know what to do. Build a defensive item and kill shiet.
So to take my last game as an example, I was playing eve, 9/1, team was 10/14, so yeah I had to carry.
I built Haunting Guise and sorc shoes as first items, then abyssal because they had a fed kass and cho top and then a zhonyas. Do you think I should have gone more defensive?
Also, how can you force your team to teamfight and take towers and shit when they don't listen to what you type?
Btw, this is not meant as QQ, I really just want to improve things like these.
Edit: To clarify, what I did was first to go bot twice, first time got a doublekill for me second time got one kill and got cait one.
Unfortunately my jungler was in the top half of the jungle so we couldn't do dragon.
Then I tried to shut down their kass who was snowballing off 2 kills top and one bot, and I killed him twice and their jungler once and got mid turret.
Then we tried for dragon, and our jungler failed his smite and lee stole it and hopped back over the wall.
In the end their kass and cho ended up carrying while I just couldn't kill them because of sooo many silences.
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On May 20 2013 20:44 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 20:29 Fildun wrote:
Help someone give me tips on how to carry plzplzplz
The weird thing is, if I'm even or behind going into mid-lategame I somewhat know what to do, but when I'm really ahead but the rest of the team is even or behind I really don't know what to do. Wards and objectives. If you start to get ahead, start grabbing a bunch of wards, grab a teammate and ward up dragon, baron, and their buffs/jungle. Be careful about warding on your own. Even if you're fed, you can still be killed. You can then catch people when they are running around alone or force objectives far away. If you see them near dragon or bot, push top, mid or try baron. Get your teammates to help place wards with you and roam as 5. As soon as you catch someone out, take an objective or two. Then back, buy, and repeat! Eventually they'll start grouping. Continue to ward their jungle and objectives. When you see an opportunity, you should be able to force a 5v5 and crush them. If you can, finish the game, otherwise grab baron and some other objectives. Keep timers on everything you can!! Buffs spawn 5 minutes after they are taken, Dragon is 6, and Baron is 7. Letting your team know their/your buffs are up in a minute or that dragon/baron will be up in 30 seconds is important. Push out the sidelanes too. When your sidelanes are pushing, force down middle. This makes them deal with minions battering down their outside towers, or your team killing their mid shit. And don't underestimate the power of you denying their vision. Especially as Eve, you can grab an oracles and clear the map of wards. Or just grab a pink for Baron/Dragon. For the most part, if you are doing well, your team will listen. If they aren't then either you're a dick or your whole team is. The former you can change, the latter is just bad luck.
Well, bot lane was calling each other retards from the start, so they wouldn't listen to anything, but in general, when I'm playing jungle I always make sure to notify my team when stuff spawns, I guess I should do that more when playing other roles too.
And about the denying vision part: You also have to have a team that can actually somewhat follow up imo, and that was just not the case.
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At that point you just have to hope enemy team makes a mistake.There are unwinnable games it happens so just move on to next one and try to play better so it doesn't get to that point.Sometimes it will never be enough but who cares(I guess if you are trying to get higher leagues you do but still you shouldn't ^^).
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On May 20 2013 20:46 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2013 20:40 mr_tolkien wrote:On May 20 2013 20:29 Fildun wrote:
Help someone give me tips on how to carry plzplzplz
The weird thing is, if I'm even or behind going into mid-lategame I somewhat know what to do, but when I'm really ahead but the rest of the team is even or behind I really don't know what to do. Build a defensive item and kill shiet. So to take my last game as an example, I was playing eve, 9/1, team was 10/14, so yeah I had to carry. I built Haunting Guise and sorc shoes as first items, then abyssal because they had a fed kass and cho top and then a zhonyas. Do you think I should have gone more defensive? Also, how can you force your team to teamfight and take towers and shit when they don't listen to what you type? Btw, this is not meant as QQ, I really just want to improve things like these. Edit: To clarify, what I did was first to go bot twice, first time got a doublekill for me second time got one kill and got cait one. Unfortunately my jungler was in the top half of the jungle so we couldn't do dragon. Then I tried to shut down their kass who was snowballing off 2 kills top and one bot, and I killed him twice and their jungler once and got mid turret. Then we tried for dragon, and our jungler failed his smite and lee stole it and hopped back over the wall. In the end their kass and cho ended up carrying while I just couldn't kill them because of sooo many silences.
In this specific scenario, where you indicate cho/kassa silence cc where the main problems, you basicaly allready analyzed your own mistake. When you're playing a high dmg carry that your team relies on for the damage you must wait till some high prio spells are down before going in
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On May 20 2013 22:25 nafta wrote:
At that point you just have to hope enemy team makes a mistake.There are unwinnable games it happens so just move on to next one and try to play better so it doesn't get to that point.Sometimes it will never be enough but who cares(I guess if you are trying to get higher leagues you do but still you shouldn't ^^).
Well I am trying to get to higher leagues in the hope that maybe someday some teamplay will happen, but yeah you are absolutely right.
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On May 20 2013 15:01 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I thought the reactions of people who took the time to LoLking him were the best xD
It might actually be a nice feature for lolking if lolking used the people you were matched against and maybe your pick order (does it get to see that?) in order to more accurately estimate what your true rating is.
I mean, it shouldn't be hard to detect a "bronze V" person is trolling if you can see he's being matched with golds every game
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