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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
May 20 2013 02:11 GMT
#1241
How is Diana after nerfs? Still very good? Haven't had a chance to play her too much yet. Same question with Zed but it looks like people are still thinking he is very strong.
Anything is Possible
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 20 2013 02:18 GMT
#1242
So looks like still no info about that team change that slasher and travis alluded to.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 20 2013 02:24 GMT
#1243
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 20 2013 02:25 GMT
#1244
On May 20 2013 11:18 schmutttt wrote:
So looks like still no info about that team change that slasher and travis alluded to.

Apparently this has been in the works for a while but the organizations won't pull the trigger for some reason zzz.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 20 2013 02:34 GMT
#1245
On May 20 2013 11:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 10:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:44 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:37 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:36 cLutZ wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 08:55 cLutZ wrote:
LB is such a great champion, she just needs minor tweaks imo.

Faker would be totally down for her to get buffed hue. Idk, Faker proved she can work in a specific team comps at a pro level (at least countering Karthus) and she can still be a pub stomper. Her biggest issue is falling off late game but we already have champs with high assassination eary and late game and most people just complain about them lol.

On May 20 2013 09:15 cLutZ wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:00 Craton wrote:
I'd rather her left in obscurity.


Why? Id rather talon, kha, and zed be obscure than the fun and relatively easy to balance Leblanc.

What makes her easier to balance? AP instead of AD?


AP yes. Also crappy pushing(same with panth). So she has normal assassin bad late game and high Risk.


So what kind of tweeks would make her more viable? I'm just wondering since you seem invested in LB. Do you want her to still be a risky pick but not as risky? I realize this comment kinda sounds like I'm being a sarcastic asshole but I'm actually interested.

Doesn't TL LoL revolve around being nice to newcomers and sarcastic assholes amongst ourselves (oh, and Pokemon) anyway? Family bonds and all that.

I just don't like confrontation lol

The LoL staff chat clearly needs more quips at Curse.

We're mostly too busy teasing Neo about CLG for that.

CRS NA is a joke in itself anyway, no need to even bother.

Fixed that for you.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 02:36:07
May 20 2013 02:35 GMT
#1246
On May 20 2013 11:34 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:06 Gahlo wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:44 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:37 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:36 cLutZ wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 08:55 cLutZ wrote:
LB is such a great champion, she just needs minor tweaks imo.

Faker would be totally down for her to get buffed hue. Idk, Faker proved she can work in a specific team comps at a pro level (at least countering Karthus) and she can still be a pub stomper. Her biggest issue is falling off late game but we already have champs with high assassination eary and late game and most people just complain about them lol.

On May 20 2013 09:15 cLutZ wrote:
[quote]

Why? Id rather talon, kha, and zed be obscure than the fun and relatively easy to balance Leblanc.

What makes her easier to balance? AP instead of AD?


AP yes. Also crappy pushing(same with panth). So she has normal assassin bad late game and high Risk.


So what kind of tweeks would make her more viable? I'm just wondering since you seem invested in LB. Do you want her to still be a risky pick but not as risky? I realize this comment kinda sounds like I'm being a sarcastic asshole but I'm actually interested.

Doesn't TL LoL revolve around being nice to newcomers and sarcastic assholes amongst ourselves (oh, and Pokemon) anyway? Family bonds and all that.

I just don't like confrontation lol

The LoL staff chat clearly needs more quips at Curse.

We're mostly too busy teasing Neo about CLG for that.

CRS NA is a joke in itself anyway, no need to even bother.

Fixed that for you.

Come on guys, let's keep the anti-NA circlejerk confined to the LR threads hue. The NA LCS is still fun even if the teams aren't of world class caliber :p
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 20 2013 02:37 GMT
#1247
On May 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.


#bringbackELO
Carrilord has arrived.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 20 2013 02:40 GMT
#1248
On May 20 2013 11:25 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:18 schmutttt wrote:
So looks like still no info about that team change that slasher and travis alluded to.

Apparently this has been in the works for a while but the organizations won't pull the trigger for some reason zzz.


Thanks, didnt see that. If it has been 'in the works' for a while it is definitely nien to curse I think.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 20 2013 02:40 GMT
#1249
On May 20 2013 11:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:34 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 20 2013 11:06 Gahlo wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:44 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:37 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:36 cLutZ wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:15 onlywonderboy wrote:
[quote]
Faker would be totally down for her to get buffed hue. Idk, Faker proved she can work in a specific team comps at a pro level (at least countering Karthus) and she can still be a pub stomper. Her biggest issue is falling off late game but we already have champs with high assassination eary and late game and most people just complain about them lol.

[quote]
What makes her easier to balance? AP instead of AD?


AP yes. Also crappy pushing(same with panth). So she has normal assassin bad late game and high Risk.


So what kind of tweeks would make her more viable? I'm just wondering since you seem invested in LB. Do you want her to still be a risky pick but not as risky? I realize this comment kinda sounds like I'm being a sarcastic asshole but I'm actually interested.

Doesn't TL LoL revolve around being nice to newcomers and sarcastic assholes amongst ourselves (oh, and Pokemon) anyway? Family bonds and all that.

I just don't like confrontation lol

The LoL staff chat clearly needs more quips at Curse.

We're mostly too busy teasing Neo about CLG for that.

CRS NA is a joke in itself anyway, no need to even bother.

Fixed that for you.

Come on guys, let's keep the anti-NA circlejerk confined to the LR threads hue. The NA LCS is still fun even if the teams aren't of world class caliber :p

The derps and throws are pretty awesome.
liftlift > tsm
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
May 20 2013 02:43 GMT
#1250
On May 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.


Someone made a thread about this a couple months ago here and explained that this could be done. I'd imagine it would be a fellow TLer trolling riot.

On May 20 2013 10:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lol, OddOne is such ass at Trundle xD


You should see him playing Hecarim. It makes me cry.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 20 2013 02:48 GMT
#1251
On May 20 2013 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 11:34 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 20 2013 11:06 Gahlo wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:44 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:37 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:36 cLutZ wrote:
[quote]

AP yes. Also crappy pushing(same with panth). So she has normal assassin bad late game and high Risk.


So what kind of tweeks would make her more viable? I'm just wondering since you seem invested in LB. Do you want her to still be a risky pick but not as risky? I realize this comment kinda sounds like I'm being a sarcastic asshole but I'm actually interested.

Doesn't TL LoL revolve around being nice to newcomers and sarcastic assholes amongst ourselves (oh, and Pokemon) anyway? Family bonds and all that.

I just don't like confrontation lol

The LoL staff chat clearly needs more quips at Curse.

We're mostly too busy teasing Neo about CLG for that.

CRS NA is a joke in itself anyway, no need to even bother.

Fixed that for you.

Come on guys, let's keep the anti-NA circlejerk confined to the LR threads hue. The NA LCS is still fun even if the teams aren't of world class caliber :p

The derps and throws are pretty awesome.

At least you can admit that much xD
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 20 2013 02:49 GMT
#1252
On May 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.


How is this any different than just making a new account and then just purposely leaving or throwing games to keep your elo low?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 20 2013 02:50 GMT
#1253
On May 20 2013 11:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:40 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 20 2013 11:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 11:34 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 20 2013 11:06 Gahlo wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:57 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:44 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:38 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 20 2013 10:37 Alaric wrote:
On May 20 2013 09:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
[quote]
So what kind of tweeks would make her more viable? I'm just wondering since you seem invested in LB. Do you want her to still be a risky pick but not as risky? I realize this comment kinda sounds like I'm being a sarcastic asshole but I'm actually interested.

Doesn't TL LoL revolve around being nice to newcomers and sarcastic assholes amongst ourselves (oh, and Pokemon) anyway? Family bonds and all that.

I just don't like confrontation lol

The LoL staff chat clearly needs more quips at Curse.

We're mostly too busy teasing Neo about CLG for that.

CRS NA is a joke in itself anyway, no need to even bother.

Fixed that for you.

Come on guys, let's keep the anti-NA circlejerk confined to the LR threads hue. The NA LCS is still fun even if the teams aren't of world class caliber :p

The derps and throws are pretty awesome.

At least you can admit that much xD

What will Reginald do next?
Can zionspartan throw farther than he can jayce shockblast?
It's like watching the season finale of any show, just to anticipate the twist.
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 03:24:12
May 20 2013 02:53 GMT
#1254
On May 20 2013 11:49 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.


How is this any different than just making a new account and then just purposely leaving or throwing games to keep your elo low?

He doesn't have to try to lose any of his games. He can try as hard as he wants and be as good as he wants and stay bronze 5.

It also looks like he's broken the matchmaker:
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/37542305#ranked-stats
Or maybe not. Maybe that's what it looks like when you are gold.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 02:59:40
May 20 2013 02:55 GMT
#1255
On May 20 2013 11:49 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.


How is this any different than just making a new account and then just purposely leaving or throwing games to keep your elo low?

His MMR still rises for a while because it would take a while before he gets into his promo non promo win (going W-Promo LWL would keep him at 50% winrate, and if he's getting more than 1 non-promo game before his promotion, then his winrate would still be 50%+ meaning his MMR hadn't leveled out yet). I guess part of this is to see how long it takes before your MMR gets to that point, and if he's queueing into Silver's and Golds, the answer is probably "far too long".
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 20 2013 02:55 GMT
#1256
On May 20 2013 11:43 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:24 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1enahp/bronze_v_dodges_all_promo_series_so_he_gets/
Oh my god this is epic. A player who's really above silver makes an account, but every time he's about to win a promo series, he dodges or gets his team to dodge. So he's as good as gold but because the League system is stupid he stays in Bronze XD.


Someone made a thread about this a couple months ago here and explained that this could be done. I'd imagine it would be a fellow TLer trolling riot.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 10:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lol, OddOne is such ass at Trundle xD


You should see him playing Hecarim. It makes me cry.


Oddone used to max E on hec nvr forget
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17247 Posts
May 20 2013 02:58 GMT
#1257
I really hope Nien doesn't go to Curse. I really like Nien, but there's no way in hell I'd support him there.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 20 2013 03:02 GMT
#1258
Page late and I realize it's kind of cool to never acknowledge that the NA scene did anything right but Regi played Leblanc in S2 with great success when the enemy team picked Karthus. So it's not something Faker proved or innovated.

On May 20 2013 11:11 LaM wrote:
How is Diana after nerfs? Still very good? Haven't had a chance to play her too much yet. Same question with Zed but it looks like people are still thinking he is very strong.


Still strong. Still one of the best mids in the game imo. Her shield change is actually a team fight buff but a laning nerf.
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
May 20 2013 03:10 GMT
#1259
On May 20 2013 12:02 overt wrote:
Page late and I realize it's kind of cool to never acknowledge that the NA scene did anything right but Regi played Leblanc in S2 with great success when the enemy team picked Karthus. So it's not something Faker proved or innovated.

Show nested quote +
On May 20 2013 11:11 LaM wrote:
How is Diana after nerfs? Still very good? Haven't had a chance to play her too much yet. Same question with Zed but it looks like people are still thinking he is very strong.


Still strong. Still one of the best mids in the game imo. Her shield change is actually a team fight buff but a laning nerf.


I played lux vs a diana yesterday. I ended up getting super fed from her teammates but that was one of the hardest lanes I've ever played (as a jungler I don't play mid a lot). It felt like her shield was always up and she takes 0 harass after lvl 3. I fail to see how this is a nerf to her laning.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 20 2013 03:12 GMT
#1260
On May 20 2013 11:58 Craton wrote:
I really hope Nien doesn't go to Curse. I really like Nien, but there's no way in hell I'd support him there.

Nien is one on my favorite players but conversely Curse is my favorite team so I would end up supporting Curse even harder lol
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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