[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…

On May 20 2013 02:41 Artok wrote:

vlad with mana, no escape and no aoe amp, seems about right

On May 20 2013 05:16 onlywonderboy wrote:

Liquid's response.

On May 20 2013 06:22 Alaric wrote:

0K I laughed.

On May 20 2013 05:23 Louuster wrote:
To be fair 2/5 couldnt fly out anyway on sunday because of passport issues, so this is almost better for them lol.

On May 20 2013 06:28 MoonBear wrote:
This whole mess with the flights being one day more is almost like it's calling for a Les Mis song or something.

With Swain I think a lot of people have hit the nail on the head in that he's not necessarily bad or anything, but it's just that there are so many other mid lane champions that are more powerful in many respects. For example, if you want to mess up melee champions, Orianna is also a powerful pick. If you need a tanky initiator, then there's Diana or Galio. For a DoT champion with lots of utility there's Anivia.

I could see Swain as a top lane counterpick on Blue side however, since that way he'd still have close access to Blue Buff and still lane well. Hm.

On May 20 2013 06:40 Gorsameth wrote:


I dont get flight issues for pro's ....
How the hell do you miss your flights Oo. Your not "working" the day you leave. you set your alarm well in advance if its in the morning and go to the airport. Its not rocket science.
And they had a good long time to sort passports. Im 99% sure they had Riot right there to help them with it. How do you not sort it out in time...

On May 20 2013 03:20 overt wrote:


Singed will still fling Quinn though which still cements Singed as #1 Quinn counter in the game. I'm pretty certain Volibear flip won't flip you though if you E to him. But yeah Quinn's good. It took quite a few months for Draven and Varus to catch on and it'll probably take Quinn just as long (or perhaps longer). The fact that they nerfed three ADCs this patch kind of helps her too.

On May 20 2013 06:18 Cloud9157 wrote:


Swain has next to no mana issues with cata, and if you are good at last hitting.

On May 20 2013 07:07 koreasilver wrote:

lol ok

On May 20 2013 08:00 TheYango wrote:

His mana costs are in the range of normal casters, 6/6ing every wave is worth 9+level mp5, and his mana/regen growth aren't any lower than normal casters. His mana is completely fine.

All these manaless and low mana cost champs have just made people completely ditch the idea of mana management as a relevant skill. Especially with mana/regen items being all the rage right now across all roles.

On May 20 2013 08:21 101toss wrote:

mana stopped being an issue right around when people started buying grail

i love how nobody runs mana regen runes anymore either

On May 20 2013 08:39 Alaric wrote:
Randoming LeBlanc in coops made me realise how she actually still has high-ish mana costs (especially considering how she needs another spell to trigger all of Q's damage when harassing in lane). Also Brand (he has to rush Chalice, like Lux, but doesn't have her range/ridiculous ult to make up for the lack of early AP, so he relies on his passive instead).

On May 20 2013 09:00 Craton wrote:
I'd rather her left in obscurity.