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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 16:32:02
June 06 2013 16:30 GMT
#5821
On June 07 2013 01:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 00:49 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On June 07 2013 00:48 thenexusp wrote:
On June 07 2013 00:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On June 07 2013 00:40 Capped wrote:
Shit hecarim is so good


I find him to be a stable choice.

The neigh-sayers will say he's too reliant on Elder Lizard, which is getting nerfed next patch...


Regardless of damage, I'd never horse around with his sustain and engage potential.


You have to pony up a lot of gold for items before he gets tanky enough to be strong though.


On June 07 2013 00:59 Sandster wrote:
Not only was that a c-c-c-combo breaker, but you also dissed the pony. Hecarim has some of the most potential for cool and awesome skins.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?offset=10&view_mode=2&order=9&q=hecarim

Specifically, one that I'd never use but would strike fear in the hearts of many (myself included):

[image loading]



Riot's too shy to let Hecarim spread his wings and truly flutter.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 06 2013 16:35 GMT
#5822
i'm starting to think that annie is quite strong currently and just severely underplayed.
morellos->dfg=huge burst damage and 34% cdr means that tibbers is up every 80some seconds
also 9/0/21 + distortion boots for flash cdr
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 16:40:13
June 06 2013 16:38 GMT
#5823
On June 07 2013 01:35 Frolossus wrote:
i'm starting to think that annie is quite strong currently and just severely underplayed.
morellos->dfg=huge burst damage and 34% cdr means that tibbers is up every 80some seconds
also 9/0/21 + distortion boots for flash cdr

shes such a bitch to lane against, i have no idea why riot is buffing her stats when its not whats her problem, her laning was always retarded strong and they make it even stronger
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 06 2013 16:42 GMT
#5824
On June 06 2013 22:14 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Okay, inControL said "I'm a Siren" on META this week, and (as shitty as that joke is) I lol'd.

Who says LoL doesn't get covered on eSports shows? =P

They talked about it on Live on Three as well. Doa asked if they had ever competed in any tournaments xD.

In his defense he quickly followed up with "is that like the dumbest question ever?"
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 06 2013 16:42 GMT
#5825
On June 07 2013 01:35 Frolossus wrote:
i'm starting to think that annie is quite strong currently and just severely underplayed.
morellos->dfg=huge burst damage and 34% cdr means that tibbers is up every 80some seconds
also 9/0/21 + distortion boots for flash cdr


It's as if I've been saying this since beginning of S3...

I build her differently, but yeah, rank 3 tibbers is like 40 sec downtime on the bear lol.

I also go 21/0/9, but yeah, distortion boots real nice on lots of champs. I also like Alacrity on her (Viktor too).
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 06 2013 16:48 GMT
#5826
On June 07 2013 01:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 01:35 Frolossus wrote:
i'm starting to think that annie is quite strong currently and just severely underplayed.
morellos->dfg=huge burst damage and 34% cdr means that tibbers is up every 80some seconds
also 9/0/21 + distortion boots for flash cdr


It's as if I've been saying this since beginning of S3...

I build her differently, but yeah, rank 3 tibbers is like 40 sec downtime on the bear lol.

I also go 21/0/9, but yeah, distortion boots real nice on lots of champs. I also like Alacrity on her (Viktor too).

Might have missed the discussion, but any opinions on movespeed annie?
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=47995-moonlight-drive-annie-build-guide

My champ pool is only 450ip champs like annie, but I never find the need to play her in mid over options like Ryze/Kayle. This looks really fun and simple enough, but I'm wondering if you guys have tried it out + how it fares in the meta.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 06 2013 16:53 GMT
#5827
On June 07 2013 01:48 Jojo131 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 01:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 07 2013 01:35 Frolossus wrote:
i'm starting to think that annie is quite strong currently and just severely underplayed.
morellos->dfg=huge burst damage and 34% cdr means that tibbers is up every 80some seconds
also 9/0/21 + distortion boots for flash cdr


It's as if I've been saying this since beginning of S3...

I build her differently, but yeah, rank 3 tibbers is like 40 sec downtime on the bear lol.

I also go 21/0/9, but yeah, distortion boots real nice on lots of champs. I also like Alacrity on her (Viktor too).

Might have missed the discussion, but any opinions on movespeed annie?
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=47995-moonlight-drive-annie-build-guide

My champ pool is only 450ip champs like annie, but I never find the need to play her in mid over options like Ryze/Kayle. This looks really fun and simple enough, but I'm wondering if you guys have tried it out + how it fares in the meta.


I'm sure it works. I think Soloside plays her with MS quints.

I run AP quints personally.

Since Annie's remake, a lot of her power resides more in scaling, so you'll probably be damage light later in the game unless you get uber fed. But early on, this build works because it's gimmicky and it's soloqueue. If you don't manage to really snowball yourself or a teammate, you'll likely be behind later on.

I've never tried it personally (the build I run on Annie works very well for me - if it ain't broke, don't fix it), but give it a shot. Play it in like 10-20 games. Decide if you like it. If not, then modify it.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
June 06 2013 16:57 GMT
#5828
On June 07 2013 01:38 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 01:35 Frolossus wrote:
i'm starting to think that annie is quite strong currently and just severely underplayed.
morellos->dfg=huge burst damage and 34% cdr means that tibbers is up every 80some seconds
also 9/0/21 + distortion boots for flash cdr

shes such a bitch to lane against, i have no idea why riot is buffing her stats when its not whats her problem, her laning was always retarded strong and they make it even stronger

I thought the only Annie change is a buff on Tibbers' Health, and the buff is most significant at higher levels of the spell? That isn't really laning phase anymore...
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 06 2013 16:58 GMT
#5829
didnt they buff her passive not long ago ?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 06 2013 16:59 GMT
#5830
every time i play annie i always miscalculate my laning all-in, die, and then the game is super hard after that.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 06 2013 17:01 GMT
#5831
On June 07 2013 01:58 kongoline wrote:
didnt they buff her passive not long ago ?


No, they changed the way the stacks work. Instead of starting at 1 stack and counting up to 5, you start at 0 stacks and count up to 4.

And that was like...over a year ago.

On June 07 2013 01:59 kainzero wrote:
every time i play annie i always miscalculate my laning all-in, die, and then the game is super hard after that.


That's just called playing Expert Mode. =)
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 06 2013 17:01 GMT
#5832
Whole team raging at me "Nooooby hecarim" for 1) calling jungle first and picking jungle as higher pick then the other guy crying for it. and 2) Picking hecarim as jungler because he sucks as jungler.

What is wrong with some people ? XD
Useless wet fish.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 17:07:24
June 06 2013 17:06 GMT
#5833
well hecarum obv bad champ. bad early game bad dmg bad sustain bad ganks bad lategame only good ult.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 06 2013 17:14 GMT
#5834
Man; I'm glad aphro is streaming again, shit is hilarious "yo, yo my neeg", as he grabs someone with blitz.
liftlift > tsm
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 06 2013 17:26 GMT
#5835
On June 07 2013 02:06 Badboyrune wrote:
well hecarum obv bad champ. bad early game bad dmg bad sustain bad ganks bad lategame only good ult.


Clearly yo. Im 3/2/7 and this team is flaming the living shit out of me still. Thinking about leaving and teaching the children a harsh lesson in what happens to douchebags. Im sure the other team would enjoy the elo xD
Useless wet fish.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 06 2013 17:27 GMT
#5836
Annie noob here, max W or Q, take a point in E or wait till lvl 8?
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 17:29:09
June 06 2013 17:28 GMT
#5837
On June 07 2013 02:26 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 02:06 Badboyrune wrote:
well hecarum obv bad champ. bad early game bad dmg bad sustain bad ganks bad lategame only good ult.


Clearly yo. Im 3/2/7 and this team is flaming the living shit out of me still. Thinking about leaving and teaching the children a harsh lesson in what happens to douchebags. Im sure the other team would enjoy the elo xD


omg noob ass jungler taking kills and then taking lane farm wtf report pls

On June 07 2013 02:27 AsnSensation wrote:
Annie noob here, max W or Q, take a point in E or wait till lvl 8?


Most Annie's generally take a point in E at 4 and max Q first.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 17:28:55
June 06 2013 17:28 GMT
#5838
On June 07 2013 02:26 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 02:06 Badboyrune wrote:
well hecarum obv bad champ. bad early game bad dmg bad sustain bad ganks bad lategame only good ult.


Clearly yo. Im 3/2/7 and this team is flaming the living shit out of me still. Thinking about leaving and teaching the children a harsh lesson in what happens to douchebags. Im sure the other team would enjoy the elo xD

Don't decend into douchebag levels to deal with douchebags. Just mute them and play your game.

srsly if they're flaming you they're not going to give you useful in-game calls anyway


EDIT: And don't be that fucking guy who says "muted" but makes it evident that he didn't actually mute anyone ...
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 06 2013 17:28 GMT
#5839
On June 07 2013 02:26 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 02:06 Badboyrune wrote:
well hecarum obv bad champ. bad early game bad dmg bad sustain bad ganks bad lategame only good ult.


Clearly yo. Im 3/2/7 and this team is flaming the living shit out of me still. Thinking about leaving and teaching the children a harsh lesson in what happens to douchebags. Im sure the other team would enjoy the elo xD


stahp helping. solo queue is not about "help"
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-06 17:36:39
June 06 2013 17:32 GMT
#5840
On June 07 2013 02:28 Sandster wrote:
Most Annie's generally take a point in E at 4 and max Q first.

E that early hurts your burst damage a lot. I think E at somewhere from 8-10 depending on the game is more common.
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