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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
June 01 2013 18:53 GMT
#4661
FBH, what a beast.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 18:57:18
June 01 2013 18:54 GMT
#4662
I feel like every NA pro is way too shy/awkward to have the kind of persona that FBH had.

What do people think about Morello's comments on MR by the way? Saw it on reddit here is the quote though:

Xyph and I have been debating this one a bit. While I'm still considering a lot about MR (with Health being better, it does a lot to deal with many traditional mages), I think there's one definite problem at least; even if balanced, MR doesn't have any real big-ticket items to go "ya know, their Akali is really big and I need to deal with it" style items like Randuin's Omen.

So, we're still talking about the raw balance (likely at least close), but I do agree MR doesn't feel as good as HP or armor.


Gotta say that I really hope they don't re-introduce FoN or some other big MR item. I don't understand why I keep seeing people bitch on reddit since, imo, S3 is like the best time for people who hated playing against heavy magic dealers since we see so many more physical damage based teams and Bulwark means that teams typically have significantly more MR than they did before.

'nother edit:
I mean, if the problem is that Rumble, Ryze, and Karthus are problematic and there's no good item to reduce their consistent DPS then maybe the problem lies with Rumble, Ryze, and Karthus not with a lack of big ticket MR items.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 01 2013 18:56 GMT
#4663
On June 02 2013 03:54 overt wrote:
I feel like every NA pro is way too shy/awkward to have the kind of persona that FBH had.

St.V would hog 2 teams worth of booth girls, thats for sure.
liftlift > tsm
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 19:00:17
June 01 2013 18:56 GMT
#4664
Really? Ppl like aphro or saint dont strike me as shy or awkward... and certainly not ppl like prolly. Sure, I could never see the oddone or jiji doing it.

Also, how can you NOT want FON back? I just don't seem to agree with either of your points. FON was total badassery... Oh I need MR I'll get FON, what's this? Now I run faster as well? Well, now I'm extra glad I picked up these 4 zeals and mobo boots..
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 18:59:37
June 01 2013 18:57 GMT
#4665
On June 02 2013 03:56 Dgiese wrote:
Really? Ppl like aphro or saint dont strike me as shy or awkward... and certainly not ppl like prolly. Sure, I could never see the oddone or jiji doing it.

I thought jiji likes pussy. hue.
Xyph and I have been debating this one a bit. While I'm still considering a lot about MR (with Health being better, it does a lot to deal with many traditional mages), I think there's one definite problem at least; even if balanced, MR doesn't have any real big-ticket items to go "ya know, their Akali is really big and I need to deal with it" style items like Randuin's Omen.

So, we're still talking about the raw balance (likely at least close), but I do agree MR doesn't feel as good as HP or armor.

What is Bulwark?


Also, I'd like to see qtpie with booth girls. major lolz ensue.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 01 2013 18:58 GMT
#4666
Aphro's persona on streams is really big. But have you seen his interviews? I couldn't imagine him doing some of what FBH did.

I'll concede saint. I'm sure he could do some crazy shit.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 01 2013 19:03 GMT
#4667
I mean, aphro seems chill IRL, so I don't think he would go out of his way to do a big ceremony thing... but that's not to say that I don't think he could pull it off. Like, if it was at Worlds or something, I could see it happening. Although, that being said FBH was a true master, so I don't think anyone could match his greatness, but that's not to say they wouldn't do pretty well themselves.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#4668
On June 02 2013 04:03 Dgiese wrote:
I mean, aphro seems chill IRL, so I don't think he would go out of his way to do a big ceremony thing... but that's not to say that I don't think he could pull it off. Like, if it was at Worlds or something, I could see it happening. Although, that being said FBH was a true master, so I don't think anyone could match his greatness, but that's not to say they wouldn't do pretty well themselves.

I could see Maknoon doing something pretty wild as well.
liftlift > tsm
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 19:06:26
June 01 2013 19:04 GMT
#4669
On June 01 2013 13:06 Dgiese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 09:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 01 2013 06:37 AsnSensation wrote:
So GGU apparently now called Team Coast Gaming... TCG?

I want a LoL TCG.

I cast polymerization on my Hecarim and Jarvan IV summoning GAIA THE FIERCE KNIGHT
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


[image loading]
I raise you to Gaia the Dragon Champion. And hey, Jarvan riding shyvana is even partially lore accurate.
Inno pls...
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
June 01 2013 19:05 GMT
#4670
On June 02 2013 03:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Was watching SSL early this morning; which got me thinking. WE NEED LEAGUE GIRLS IN BOOTHS (or behind the players if no booths). The real question, 1 per team? or 1 per player?

I think you mean 3 per player, right?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 01 2013 19:15 GMT
#4671
Gonna stream a bit, watch if you please.
http://www.twitch.tv/hiicantpk
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 01 2013 19:18 GMT
#4672
yeah i thought bout dragon knight, but i dunno, the dragondidnt scream shyv to me... man i wanna go download an emu and a yu gi oh game now...
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 19:22:26
June 01 2013 19:22 GMT
#4673
On June 02 2013 04:04 Sajaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 13:06 Dgiese wrote:
On June 01 2013 09:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 01 2013 06:37 AsnSensation wrote:
So GGU apparently now called Team Coast Gaming... TCG?

I want a LoL TCG.

I cast polymerization on my Hecarim and Jarvan IV summoning GAIA THE FIERCE KNIGHT
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I raise you to Gaia the Dragon Champion. And hey, Jarvan riding shyvana is even partially lore accurate.


lool yu gi oh ftw
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
June 01 2013 19:36 GMT
#4674
On June 02 2013 04:04 Sajaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2013 13:06 Dgiese wrote:
On June 01 2013 09:02 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On June 01 2013 06:37 AsnSensation wrote:
So GGU apparently now called Team Coast Gaming... TCG?

I want a LoL TCG.

I cast polymerization on my Hecarim and Jarvan IV summoning GAIA THE FIERCE KNIGHT
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


[image loading]
I raise you to Gaia the Dragon Champion. And hey, Jarvan riding shyvana is even partially lore accurate.

The rider is definitely Zed.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
June 01 2013 19:44 GMT
#4675
Nothing beats Much's pylon heart against FBH lolol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
June 01 2013 20:06 GMT
#4676
Elementz is now the Coach for Coast Gaming, who were GGU. I for one like him much more as a coach rather than a player, glad to see he's staying with the scene.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#4677
On June 02 2013 05:06 Cixah wrote:
Elementz is now the Coach for Coast Gaming, who were GGU. I for one like him much more as a coach rather than a player, glad to see he's staying with the scene.

I for one am primarily happy that a team gets a coach. Hopefully others follow.
Off-season = best season
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:11:56
June 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#4678
its hilarious the constrast between elementz and regi

regi is the succesfull skilled leader but everything things he's dumb because he's always like bro bro bro baylife
elementz is reasonably charismatic and speaks eloquently but he's relatively terrible but people like him anyway
think he'll make an OK coach, but who knows
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-01 20:17:19
June 01 2013 20:16 GMT
#4679
On June 02 2013 05:11 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2013 05:06 Cixah wrote:
Elementz is now the Coach for Coast Gaming, who were GGU. I for one like him much more as a coach rather than a player, glad to see he's staying with the scene.

I for one am primarily happy that a team gets a coach. Hopefully others follow.

<insert LCS team>, please hire me...

On June 02 2013 05:11 Slayer91 wrote:
its hilarious the constrast between elementz and regi

regi is the succesfull skilled leader but everything things he's dumb because he's always like bro bro bro baylife
elementz is reasonably charismatic and speaks eloquently but he's relatively terrible but people like him anyway
think he'll make an OK coach, but who knows

nice edit
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 01 2013 20:21 GMT
#4680
On June 02 2013 03:54 overt wrote:
I feel like every NA pro is way too shy/awkward to have the kind of persona that FBH had.

What do people think about Morello's comments on MR by the way? Saw it on reddit here is the quote though:

Show nested quote +
Xyph and I have been debating this one a bit. While I'm still considering a lot about MR (with Health being better, it does a lot to deal with many traditional mages), I think there's one definite problem at least; even if balanced, MR doesn't have any real big-ticket items to go "ya know, their Akali is really big and I need to deal with it" style items like Randuin's Omen.

So, we're still talking about the raw balance (likely at least close), but I do agree MR doesn't feel as good as HP or armor.


Gotta say that I really hope they don't re-introduce FoN or some other big MR item. I don't understand why I keep seeing people bitch on reddit since, imo, S3 is like the best time for people who hated playing against heavy magic dealers since we see so many more physical damage based teams and Bulwark means that teams typically have significantly more MR than they did before.

'nother edit:
I mean, if the problem is that Rumble, Ryze, and Karthus are problematic and there's no good item to reduce their consistent DPS then maybe the problem lies with Rumble, Ryze, and Karthus not with a lack of big ticket MR items.


The problem with MR not "feeling" as good as HP or Armor has to do with champion design and the current metagame more than item choice. Right now there's a lot of importance in burst damage - the nerfs to resistances and aspd, buffs to % penetration, and riot's hard-on for %HP damage all contribute to this. When burst is so important, cooldowns become more valuable - you won't for instance see a Lux blow all her spells on a Renekton with 3k HP when Zed, Jarvan, Diana, etc. are lurking nearby, ready to steal her lunch money. So there's really no need for Renekton or any similar bruiser to stack MR except in some fringe cases. Against champions that do a lot of incidental magic damage - Karthus, Nasus, Malzahar, Rumble, etc - buying Spirit Visage + Hexdrinker can sometimes be warranted, but I think mitigating damage from the enemy ADC is far more important.
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