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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Iirc, any tick of damage done during Exhaust's effect is reduced, including DoTs and periodic damage (one could test too if for example casting a DoT with Mejai stacks, then dying will have the post-death ticks reduced). I dunno about the main question, I just finished a game where I Exhausted Morde twice to prevent him from healing too much right before he Zhonya'd, but with the clusterfuck I wasn't even sure if it worked. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On June 01 2013 00:43 Alaric wrote: Can't you just RE him away though? At least he shouldn't be able to EautoQR you (takes too long compared to your RE) so he'll lose out on some damage if he does that. He's probably weaker at level 1 and 3, no idea about level 2 since Jayce's all-in is so strong but Wu's got nice dps at that stage. If you get low and fail to gate->run away or hammerE when he dives you, though, you'll just die from his ult's damage. If you can avoid him jumping on you, you can also just shove the lane and farm with EQ, Wukong's not too shabby when it comes to farming at tower (well, depends, his aa animation is really one of the most atrocious out there when it comes to melee champs) but he needs to dump a lot of mana to be able to "push" a lane (and he can't shove for shit). a good wukong will be W your hammerform knockback, talking about lvl 2 all ins i'm not sure but usually Jayce wins that. What I noticed about alot of the "neo" jayce players is that (especially top) they don't manage their ult cd. They switch from hammer into canon form and go straight to farming, but against a gapclosing bruiser like irelia, jax, xin or Jarvan that's like an invitation to allin because you're super vulnerable during the 5-6 seconds. Can't Acc Blast them if they're in your face and can't knock them back cause swap is on cd. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On May 31 2013 23:49 Sermokala wrote: Who the fuck names an all female team pms? Was anyone in that meeting at all when that was decided? Supposedly the sister gamer clan to H2O, I have a friend who's sort of involved with them. They've been around for a long long time. I think mostly CS-affiliated? Their LoL players are absolutely godawful. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Elise players are more liberal with the form switch but still tend to manage it better (and the fact that all of her cooldowns except Rappel are so low, and her ult only 4s, doesn't really put pressure on them), Jayce players tend to not care because of how easy it is for him to disengage, and Nidalee players are pretty lax. Maybe that's because she's inherently harder to play (especially as bruiser Nidalee) and her human form's kit isn't as strong as theirs, or because she's forced to switch to Cougar Form to shove: they'll get into Cougar, annihilate the wave, change back before they're put enough distance and let you jump them as soon as they're back to human form. I don't think I've lost to an offlane bruiser Nidalee in s3 yet, even w/o accounting for the ult nerfs (well she's also so much weaker than Elise/Jayce when played that way... :/ saddens me, because her "default" kit being a lot less straight-forward and her actually having her pre-6 vulnerabilities make her more interesting/higher skill-ceiling). | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:11 AsnSensation wrote: a good wukong will be W your hammerform knockback, talking about lvl 2 all ins i'm not sure but usually Jayce wins that. What I noticed about alot of the "neo" jayce players is that (especially top) they don't manage their ult cd. They switch from hammer into canon form and go straight to farming, but against a gapclosing bruiser like irelia, jax, xin or Jarvan that's like an invitation to allin because you're super vulnerable during the 5-6 seconds. Can't Acc Blast them if they're in your face and can't knock them back cause swap is on cd. I recently just started playing jayce and learned what happens when a jax all ins u right after switching forms Without giving some room. On the bright side I pretended to be dumb and baited him into a sweet gank by doing it again | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Wheras people get trolled in placements and end up in bronze, it seems it works the otherway around too, the feeders get lucky. They need to add a demotion mechanic for serious cases like this imo. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 31 2013 23:38 djWHEAT wrote: We covered All-Stars as a preview, and had every intention of covering the results, but the show took a turn that we had no expected. I find some of these comments odd though, because over the past 15 shows, the two games that have gotten the most attention are StarCraft 2 and League of Legends. It's funny that we do one show where we stack DOTA 2 guests and suddenly "we don't care that much about the league scene", but 12 weeks prior we did regular coverage of LCS. Live On Three covers all games, and all esports. But we're also only 2 hours. If we don't cover a news item, I wish people wouldn't jump to the conclusion that we must hate "X" game or like "Y" game more. I can promise you that Slasher and I never cut content or not consider content due what game it is. I just read this on the side bar "[D] Japan Suspends Wheat..." hard luck we know all the work you've done for esports I dont know why they woul do this to you | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On June 01 2013 01:06 Alaric wrote: Exhaust doesn't affect true damage (nothing should, but there are exceptions like Swain's Torment, and I guess Poppy's Diplomatic Immunity, Talon's Cutthroat and Vladimir's Hemoplague do too). Iirc, any tick of damage done during Exhaust's effect is reduced, including DoTs and periodic damage (one could test too if for example casting a DoT with Mejai stacks, then dying will have the post-death ticks reduced). I dunno about the main question, I just finished a game where I Exhausted Morde twice to prevent him from healing too much right before he Zhonya'd, but with the clusterfuck I wasn't even sure if it worked. Most damage amplification abilities increase true damage, but damage reduction abilities don't reduce true damage. The thing is most damage amplification specifically says "this applies to items and summoner spells too" but there isn't any summoner spell that doesn't do true damage. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
I'm usually pink warding as a jungler anyway. Lee Sin might be the only exception. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 01 2013 03:28 Seuss wrote: I just buy wards. Item timings early on are too important to get sidetracked by Sightstone, but 75g-125g here or there isn't a big deal. I'm usually pink warding as a jungler anyway. Lee Sin might be the only exception. sightstone on lee sin allows for cheesy plays | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 01 2013 03:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Do people ever buy sightstone on junglers? Sometimes I feel that a few more wards around the map couldve turned around a lost game but whenever I'm actually playing I feel really uncomfortable delaying my items by ~1k gold. On lee sin. You can carry so hard with it. Can initiate tons of plays with it. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On June 01 2013 03:20 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Do people ever buy sightstone on junglers? Sometimes I feel that a few more wards around the map couldve turned around a lost game but whenever I'm actually playing I feel really uncomfortable delaying my items by ~1k gold. If you're buying loads of wards, then it's pretty cost effective to get a Sightstone. Think of it like a GP10 item that dispenses wards, but at a much more efficient rate than a real GP10 item. The actual combat stats on it (health) is also pretty relevant too. A lot of the times, vision is incredibly important. For example, if vision means your team doesn't facecheck or avoids a gank, then that's more than worth the investment. Or as Hotshot once said as he sold a 6th item Ruby Crystal for Wards back in Season 2 before Sightstone came out: "This 180 hp is not going to really make or break a fight. But having vision on Baron is going to win us the game." | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Emphasis on "dumbest idea". | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On May 31 2013 23:58 Ketara wrote: Ever since I learned about this lolnexus tool, matchmaking and the league system have started confusing me more and more. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZAh6jcW.png) I mean, what IS that? Either the matchmaking system is broken, or what league you're in means absolutely nothing. You have to keep in mind that if someone is in the V level of their division and they're at or close to 0 league points, their division is probably no where near their actual skill level. Happens extremely frequently for Plat V's. My guess is the plat V and the diamond V on the enemy team are actually somewhere in the low level gold tier if their elo were displayed, and the plat V on your team has a MMR higher than where he actually is. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
I'm all for girls in e-sports why does their video have to be so cringeworthy "losing is not an option" "I'll beat you and outsmart you" lol | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On June 01 2013 03:35 101toss wrote: sightstone on lee sin allows for cheesy plays Think of sightstone as a GP10 item (same as Wriggles). Though you aren't directly gaining gold, you're gaining (random) vision which would otherwise be paid for with gold. And of course, da ree singah plays. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On June 01 2013 03:41 zer0das wrote: You have to keep in mind that if someone is in the V level of their division and they're at or close to 0 league points, their division is probably no where near their actual skill level. Happens extremely frequently for Plat V's. My guess is the plat V and the diamond V on the enemy team are actually somewhere in the low level gold tier if their elo were displayed, and the plat V on your team has a MMR higher than where he actually is. Also, due to clamping, being in a I division could actually mean your MMR is close to the IV division of the next tier up Keep in mind that matchmaking isn't actually necessary to make a ranked system work. MMR calculations already take into account if you're fighting better or worse opponents. In fact, if you really care about self-improvement you should feel good that you get to play better opposition than yourself. The only extent matchmaking is necessary is to prevent one person from rising the ranks by spamming games against a single player/team who throws his games constantly. | ||
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