[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…

Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.

Dusty

United States3359 Posts

May 31 2013 18:51 GMT

#4441

I'm pretty sure Nautilus's passive is broken and is a stun and not a snare, even though the tooltip says it is a snare. Anyone else know?

cLutZ

United States19573 Posts

May 31 2013 18:54 GMT

#4442

Hmm. IDK about sightstone on most junglers b/c fast Aegis is so strong + Riot has made the SS items way stronk as well.

MoonBear

Straight outta Johto18973 Posts

May 31 2013 18:57 GMT

#4443

On June 01 2013 03:51 Dusty wrote:
I'm pretty sure Nautilus's passive is broken and is a stun and not a snare, even though the tooltip says it is a snare. Anyone else know?

It does not stun. It only immobilises. You can still cast spells, and his passive won't break channelling spells.

Mondeezy

United States1938 Posts

May 31 2013 18:57 GMT

#4444

On May 31 2013 22:22 Capped wrote:

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On May 31 2013 22:17 IamPryda wrote:

On May 31 2013 17:38 Arisen wrote:

On May 29 2013 08:05 Diamond wrote:

On May 29 2013 06:52 Arisen wrote:

On May 29 2013 06:22 JonGalt wrote:

On May 29 2013 06:11 Arisen wrote:

On May 29 2013 05:11 Diamond wrote:

On May 29 2013 05:00 Arisen wrote:

On May 29 2013 04:54 Diamond wrote:
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What bug?

Im losing 6 or more times the LP per ranked game than I win (usually 1LP per win, 6-25 per loss). I also seem to get a lot of AFK/DCs, etc. I've been told its because LoL thinks my MMR or whatever should be lower so it's trying to get me to where it wants me by making me lose more points than I could possibly gain (I had a friend tell me that he thinks they're putting me on the team with the lower combined MMR as well, but I think it's just a coincidence that I get quite a lot of DCs/AFKs).

That's not a bug, not even close to one.....

Either bug or working as intended, I was in high silver when i stopped playing, now that I've started playing again after a long hiatus, I've worked my way almost down to bronze 3 because of this issue. It's no fun for me as a play much worse players than myself only to keep dropping because LoL thinks my MMR should be lower so i can finally reach some equilibrium then steamroll back up. If it is an intended function, I think it's decidedly unfun.

I don't want to sound like a negative nancy or the broken record that is the TL attitude of ignore LP but...

1) Do you think that your "long hiatus" has anything to do with losing now?

OR

2) Ignore LP because it means nothing and just focus on improving.

And if you don't like any of those, how about blame ELO/MMR decay due to inactivity and just wait it out because it will fix itself.

Starting a new account for the sole purpose of getting into ranked again seems like a waste of runes, champs, IP, RP, and hard work! If you just want a smurf for playing with friends, then that's different.

Or if you want to ignore this and go back to 2002 and make a new BWLoL account because it doesn't show your "true" skill, then have fun

Oh em gee, I am blowin' up my post count tonight.

1) I'm positive my "long Hiatus" has nothing to do with me losing now. I had played dota during my haitus, my mechanics are better than ever. The only thing i have to improve is my game knowledge. I'm playing support mostly, I always end up positive during my games, i place a ton of wards. I counter ward. People either go afk or go off 1v5 and die over and over and feed people.

2) My league keeps dropping, so I'm playing worse and worse players. It's not fun to play versus worse players. Even if I start winning now, i have to win 100 games right now to up a division (1 LP a win). I'm getting majorly frustrated playing the games I am now, hence I'm starting another account. Now if we could PLEASE get to my original question, that would be great :/

No one that I have seen is trying to flame you. We are all telling you the truth is all. LP means nothing, and is just for show, your MMR/ELO is all that matters and it's really low. Also when your MMR and LP even out the gains/losses will be normalized. So once that hits you will go from +1/-20 or w/e, to normal point gains/losses. So you would NOT need 100 wins, probably after 10 or so in a row you would see it normalize out.

Example: When I got into Silver 1 I went from +20/-20~ on my games to +4/-10. After what seemed like forever (one month or so), I started getting better at the game and winning a lot. My MMR actually ended up getting way higher than my LP, and it went to +25/-6~ until it promoted me to Gold V.

One thing I do agree with is the system is very frustrating in that aspect. I was getting so upset being stuck around 0 LP, but all of a sudden when the time was right the system recognized it, and basically forced me to be promoted. There needs to be some more transparency or LoL needs to be more harsh with demotions. I think it would be a lot less frustrating if it just demoted you to the right spot so you can get normal LP gains again.

Edit: For what it's worth, I do fully understand your frustration as a friend of mine is experiencing the same thing atm. I wrote an tweet to RiotLyte about it, as I see A LOT of frustration with this from players. Hope Riot does something to make it more clear and less frustrating.

went from high silver, now at the very very bottom of bronze 5. Still losing 5x what I'm winning (1-5 a win, just takes all of them away when i lose up to 15 was the highest i got). Still working as intended?

If you can't carry your way out of bronze 5 by winning like 15 straight then u belong

Im tempted to offer my account and a reward to anyone able to do exactly this. Continous winning streaks and out of bronze in 3 days to anyone below gold 3.

But i guess thats eloboosting :3

Would love to shut someone the fuck up though.

I'm Gold I and I played on my friends Bronze IV account to prove to him that it wasn't just "bad luck, trolls, and DC's" keeping him there. I didn't lose a game yet and the only 4v5 I had we ended up winning. I didn't finish though because I think I proved my point to him and I don't want him to get to a rating he doesn't deserve. On the other hand, I have another buddy who insisted the same thing (DC's and bad teammates) and decided to teach him instead of playing for him, and I am proud to say he's almost silver and wins a majority of his games now after we practiced in norms for a couple of weeks.

Probably wouldn't do it again though - after playing those games I end up playing really stupid when I do ranked on my account, and there's no way I will win a promo series playing that way.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

May 31 2013 18:57 GMT

#4445

LoL Bjergsen is playing quinn currently, was laning vs Ocelote and just went 7/0 legendary

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

May 31 2013 18:59 GMT

#4446

On June 01 2013 03:57 MoonBear wrote:

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It does not stun. It only immobilises. You can still cast spells, and his passive won't break channelling spells.

Just played against an AP Yi the other day, can confirm he continued to heal even after I AA'd him.

Mensol

14536 Posts

May 31 2013 19:01 GMT

#4447

Whose your main champion for each role?

mine is:

Mid: Orianna
Top: Kennen
Jungle: Lee Sin
adc: Ezreal
Support: Lulu

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

May 31 2013 19:04 GMT

#4448

Renekton, Nocturne, Kha'Zix, Caitlyn, Lulu

cLutZ

United States19573 Posts

May 31 2013 19:05 GMT

#4449

On June 01 2013 04:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Renekton, Nocturne, Kha'Zix, Caitlyn, Lulu

How is your pokemon adventure going? Did you get a kennen in viridian forest?

caelym

United States6421 Posts

May 31 2013 19:06 GMT

#4450

On May 31 2013 23:38 djWHEAT wrote:

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We covered All-Stars as a preview, and had every intention of covering the results, but the show took a turn that we had no expected. I find some of these comments odd though, because over the past 15 shows, the two games that have gotten the most attention are StarCraft 2 and League of Legends. It's funny that we do one show where we stack DOTA 2 guests and suddenly "we don't care that much about the league scene", but 12 weeks prior we did regular coverage of LCS.

Live On Three covers all games, and all esports. But we're also only 2 hours. If we don't cover a news item, I wish people wouldn't jump to the conclusion that we must hate "X" game or like "Y" game more. I can promise you that Slasher and I never cut content or not consider content due what game it is.

Thanks for the reply. I intention was not to bash Lo3 btw. It's just that (to me) not doing a recap of All Stars is like not doing a recap for Dreamhack's SC2 tournament.

MoonBear

Straight outta Johto18973 Posts

May 31 2013 19:06 GMT

#4451

Top: Irelia (Buffs please Morello)
Mid: I don't play mid orz...
Jungle: Amumu (Pre-6 ganks are hilar and Press R to win so fun)
Duo bot: Tristana and Sona (Lulu comes close though)

On June 01 2013 04:05 cLutZ wrote:

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How is your pokemon adventure going? Did you get a kennen in viridian forest?

Don't think Neo was the one doing a Nuzlocke run lol

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

May 31 2013 19:06 GMT

#4452

Jayce, Naut, Ori, Graves/Ez, Thresh

Mondeezy

United States1938 Posts

May 31 2013 19:07 GMT

#4453

On June 01 2013 04:01 Mensol wrote:
Whose your main champion for each role?

mine is:

Mid: Orianna
Top: Kennen
Jungle: Lee Sin
adc: Ezreal
Support: Lulu

Mid: TF(but since he's banned usually Akali)
Top: Akali, Riven
Jungle: Lee
ADC: Vayne
Support: I switch it up a lot, but probably Janna or Lulu ATM.

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

May 31 2013 19:09 GMT

#4454

Riven (waifu)
Mordekaiser
Lee sin
Tristana
Any supp, depends on teamcomp

Vanka

China1336 Posts

May 31 2013 19:09 GMT

#4455

Top: Udyr.
Jungle: Udyr.
Mid: Udy--nah, just joking, ryze.
Support: ali
AD: trist graves ashe sivir vayne

cLutZ

United States19573 Posts

May 31 2013 19:11 GMT

#4456

On June 01 2013 04:06 MoonBear wrote:
Top: Irelia (Buffs please Morello)
Mid: I don't play mid orz...
Jungle: Amumu (Pre-6 ganks are hilar and Press R to win so fun)
Duo bot: Tristana and Sona (Lulu comes close though)

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Don't think Neo was the one doing a Nuzlocke run lol

Good point it was Req.