EPTZhonyas core IMO.
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
Zhonyas core IMO. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:17 Cixah wrote: I feel like she could be a support. She reminds me alot of CM (I WONDER WHY) in that sense. Bringing up Dota and not even mentioning Puck lol? | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
Then I'm going to cry myself to sleep with memories of my poor paladin against frost mages. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:39 TheYango wrote: She better be able to E->R->E. Just for you I'm gonna go test it out on the PBE right now. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:39 Amui wrote: I'm going to buy Lissandra and revel in the glory that is a frostmage vs melee's. Then I'm going to cry myself to sleep with memories of my poor paladin against frost mages. and then you realize you can just roll a death knight and bring the frost mage to you! :D | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 30 2013 11:39 Craton wrote: Jungler's first doublebuff gank should be much closer to 3 minutes. With a smiteless blue? Maybe. If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:50 Sufficiency wrote: With a smiteless blue? Maybe. If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it. That's like... the standard route now, isn't it? I see it 80% of the time hwen im top lane, which is why I super-value the openings that let me have a ward. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:39 TheYango wrote: She better be able to E->R->E. I have bad news for you... | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:56 sylverfyre wrote: That's like... the standard route now, isn't it? I see it 80% of the time hwen im top lane, which is why I super-value the openings that let me have a ward. Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Also, am I the only one who chooses a jungler based on blue/purple side? I really like Hecarim on purple, Lee and Naut on Blue. Hec can clippety clop after doing my standard path to top, while Lee and Naut can clear then camp in the bot lane bush. Honestly, I don't really care if someone steals my red that much (as long as its not a straight up invade). It means I know they're probably a pot down on me, and I know where they were at within a certain time frame. | ||
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MagnusWolf
United States483 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:58 Sufficiency wrote: Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it. Every game in silver, and most games in diamond/challenger from what I see on stream. Your wraiths or doubles were probably farmed by someone else on your team anyway. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:02 MagnusWolf wrote: I'm in silver 2 and in at least 80% of games people go wolves>>blue(smiteless)>>red. They don't necessarily gank afterwards though :/ Well ok, sometimes they don't gank afterwards for some reason. It's still a very safe route that makes it really unlikely that anyone is going to steal a buff from you except off of a level 1 invade | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote: I always go wolves blue wraiths wolves red golems gank... o_o Also, am I the only one who chooses a jungler based on blue/purple side? I really like Hecarim on purple, Lee and Naut on Blue. Hec can clippety clop after doing my standard path to top, while Lee and Naut can clear then camp in the bot lane bush. Don't you lose red a lot and/or have your team rage at you while they throw away firstblood? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:04 cLutZ wrote: Don't you lose red a lot and/or have your team rage at you while they throw away firstblood? level 4 ganks pretty stronk, lets you have your full kit going. sometimes stuff gets stolen, but honestly its not been a big enough issue to matter after all games average out. honestly if you cant survive a lvl 2 gank, you likely made some really big mistake. in the time it takes for you to get to 4, your laner has had an opportunity to get the lane pushed to where they want in preparation from a gank, communicate warding patterns properly. lvl 2 is a lot more difficult to pull off IMO, and while the rewards are bigger, the risk is too. for hecarim, my priority is essentially farming to 6, because thats where he gets a huge power spike. the lvl 4 gank is just a nice pitstop. in arranged, i trust my teammates to make sure my red is safe generally and not get killed lvl 2 by stupid stuff. | ||
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koreasilver
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On April 30 2013 12:58 Sufficiency wrote: Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it. I just got promoted into gold and even when I was in silver II and I that was pretty much how every single game went. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:04 cLutZ wrote: Don't you lose red a lot and/or have your team rage at you while they throw away firstblood? If a team rages at me for not ganking soon enough even though I'm on my first clear I just mute them lol. Really it depends on the jungler. On Jarven and Xin getting smiteless straight into Red is nice for early pressure, but if you're playing Hec or Naut who need levels ASAP there's nothing wrong with that path. | ||
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