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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 30 2013 03:19 GMT
#121
Seems alot like Morg with that Ult.

Zhonyas core IMO.
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 30 2013 03:21 GMT
#122
On April 30 2013 12:17 Cixah wrote:
I feel like she could be a support. She reminds me alot of CM (I WONDER WHY) in that sense.

Bringing up Dota and not even mentioning Puck lol?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 30 2013 03:24 GMT
#123
I didn't even draw the coloration to puck because I don't play him haha. That's kind sick actually. Can't wait to play her.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 30 2013 03:39 GMT
#124
She better be able to E->R->E.
Moderator
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 30 2013 03:39 GMT
#125
I'm going to buy Lissandra and revel in the glory that is a frostmage vs melee's.

Then I'm going to cry myself to sleep with memories of my poor paladin against frost mages.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 30 2013 03:41 GMT
#126
On April 30 2013 12:39 TheYango wrote:
She better be able to E->R->E.

Just for you I'm gonna go test it out on the PBE right now.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
April 30 2013 03:46 GMT
#127
On April 30 2013 12:39 Amui wrote:
I'm going to buy Lissandra and revel in the glory that is a frostmage vs melee's.

Then I'm going to cry myself to sleep with memories of my poor paladin against frost mages.


and then you realize you can just roll a death knight and bring the frost mage to you! :D
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 30 2013 03:50 GMT
#128
On April 30 2013 11:39 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:38 xMiragex wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:36 kongoline wrote:
but what will u buy with rejuv on ap like kat or rumble?


you sell it...i think it takes 3 minutes of healing with it so it pays off in pots

it also affects morde hue


On Mordekaiser you can also consider getting Spirit Stone and the spellvamp jungle item late on, so starting beads isn't too bad.

However, I still think on Morde you might as well go Amp Tome + 1pot. Shove the lane as hard as you can, then back around 3:30 to avoid the first red buff jungle gank (assuming you are facing a blue-start jungler).

Jungler's first doublebuff gank should be much closer to 3 minutes.


With a smiteless blue? Maybe.

If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 30 2013 03:56 GMT
#129
On April 30 2013 12:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 11:39 Craton wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:38 xMiragex wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:36 kongoline wrote:
but what will u buy with rejuv on ap like kat or rumble?


you sell it...i think it takes 3 minutes of healing with it so it pays off in pots

it also affects morde hue


On Mordekaiser you can also consider getting Spirit Stone and the spellvamp jungle item late on, so starting beads isn't too bad.

However, I still think on Morde you might as well go Amp Tome + 1pot. Shove the lane as hard as you can, then back around 3:30 to avoid the first red buff jungle gank (assuming you are facing a blue-start jungler).

Jungler's first doublebuff gank should be much closer to 3 minutes.


With a smiteless blue? Maybe.

If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it.

That's like... the standard route now, isn't it? I see it 80% of the time hwen im top lane, which is why I super-value the openings that let me have a ward.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 30 2013 03:56 GMT
#130
On April 30 2013 12:39 TheYango wrote:
She better be able to E->R->E.

I have bad news for you...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 30 2013 03:58 GMT
#131
On April 30 2013 12:56 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 12:50 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:39 Craton wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:38 xMiragex wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:36 kongoline wrote:
but what will u buy with rejuv on ap like kat or rumble?


you sell it...i think it takes 3 minutes of healing with it so it pays off in pots

it also affects morde hue


On Mordekaiser you can also consider getting Spirit Stone and the spellvamp jungle item late on, so starting beads isn't too bad.

However, I still think on Morde you might as well go Amp Tome + 1pot. Shove the lane as hard as you can, then back around 3:30 to avoid the first red buff jungle gank (assuming you are facing a blue-start jungler).

Jungler's first doublebuff gank should be much closer to 3 minutes.


With a smiteless blue? Maybe.

If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it.

That's like... the standard route now, isn't it? I see it 80% of the time hwen im top lane, which is why I super-value the openings that let me have a ward.


Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 04:05:12
April 30 2013 04:01 GMT
#132
I always go wolves blue wraiths wolves red golems gank... o_o

Also, am I the only one who chooses a jungler based on blue/purple side? I really like Hecarim on purple, Lee and Naut on Blue. Hec can clippety clop after doing my standard path to top, while Lee and Naut can clear then camp in the bot lane bush.

Honestly, I don't really care if someone steals my red that much (as long as its not a straight up invade). It means I know they're probably a pot down on me, and I know where they were at within a certain time frame.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
MagnusWolf
Profile Joined November 2011
United States483 Posts
April 30 2013 04:02 GMT
#133
I'm in silver 2 and in at least 80% of games people go wolves>>blue(smiteless)>>red. They don't necessarily gank afterwards though :/
http://www.twitch.tv/magnuswolf sometimes I stream, sometimes I don't
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 30 2013 04:02 GMT
#134
On April 30 2013 12:58 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 12:56 sylverfyre wrote:
On April 30 2013 12:50 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:39 Craton wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:38 xMiragex wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:36 kongoline wrote:
but what will u buy with rejuv on ap like kat or rumble?


you sell it...i think it takes 3 minutes of healing with it so it pays off in pots

it also affects morde hue


On Mordekaiser you can also consider getting Spirit Stone and the spellvamp jungle item late on, so starting beads isn't too bad.

However, I still think on Morde you might as well go Amp Tome + 1pot. Shove the lane as hard as you can, then back around 3:30 to avoid the first red buff jungle gank (assuming you are facing a blue-start jungler).

Jungler's first doublebuff gank should be much closer to 3 minutes.


With a smiteless blue? Maybe.

If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it.

That's like... the standard route now, isn't it? I see it 80% of the time hwen im top lane, which is why I super-value the openings that let me have a ward.


Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it.

Every game in silver, and most games in diamond/challenger from what I see on stream.
Your wraiths or doubles were probably farmed by someone else on your team anyway.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 04:03:35
April 30 2013 04:03 GMT
#135
On April 30 2013 13:02 MagnusWolf wrote:
I'm in silver 2 and in at least 80% of games people go wolves>>blue(smiteless)>>red. They don't necessarily gank afterwards though :/

Well ok, sometimes they don't gank afterwards for some reason. It's still a very safe route that makes it really unlikely that anyone is going to steal a buff from you except off of a level 1 invade
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#136
Well maybe I need to rethink my timing *ahem*
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#137
On April 30 2013 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
I always go wolves blue wraiths wolves red golems gank... o_o

Also, am I the only one who chooses a jungler based on blue/purple side? I really like Hecarim on purple, Lee and Naut on Blue. Hec can clippety clop after doing my standard path to top, while Lee and Naut can clear then camp in the bot lane bush.


Don't you lose red a lot and/or have your team rage at you while they throw away firstblood?
Freeeeeeedom
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 04:13:04
April 30 2013 04:08 GMT
#138
On April 30 2013 13:04 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
I always go wolves blue wraiths wolves red golems gank... o_o

Also, am I the only one who chooses a jungler based on blue/purple side? I really like Hecarim on purple, Lee and Naut on Blue. Hec can clippety clop after doing my standard path to top, while Lee and Naut can clear then camp in the bot lane bush.


Don't you lose red a lot and/or have your team rage at you while they throw away firstblood?


level 4 ganks pretty stronk, lets you have your full kit going. sometimes stuff gets stolen, but honestly its not been a big enough issue to matter after all games average out. honestly if you cant survive a lvl 2 gank, you likely made some really big mistake.

in the time it takes for you to get to 4, your laner has had an opportunity to get the lane pushed to where they want in preparation from a gank, communicate warding patterns properly. lvl 2 is a lot more difficult to pull off IMO, and while the rewards are bigger, the risk is too.

for hecarim, my priority is essentially farming to 6, because thats where he gets a huge power spike. the lvl 4 gank is just a nice pitstop.

in arranged, i trust my teammates to make sure my red is safe generally and not get killed lvl 2 by stupid stuff.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 30 2013 04:09 GMT
#139
On April 30 2013 12:58 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 12:56 sylverfyre wrote:
On April 30 2013 12:50 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:39 Craton wrote:
On April 30 2013 11:05 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:38 xMiragex wrote:
On April 30 2013 10:36 kongoline wrote:
but what will u buy with rejuv on ap like kat or rumble?


you sell it...i think it takes 3 minutes of healing with it so it pays off in pots

it also affects morde hue


On Mordekaiser you can also consider getting Spirit Stone and the spellvamp jungle item late on, so starting beads isn't too bad.

However, I still think on Morde you might as well go Amp Tome + 1pot. Shove the lane as hard as you can, then back around 3:30 to avoid the first red buff jungle gank (assuming you are facing a blue-start jungler).

Jungler's first doublebuff gank should be much closer to 3 minutes.


With a smiteless blue? Maybe.

If you choose to do wolves -> smiteless blue -> red -> gank, then I will just hand you the FB for your efforts. Most people around my level don't try that hard. Also not every jungler can do it.

That's like... the standard route now, isn't it? I see it 80% of the time hwen im top lane, which is why I super-value the openings that let me have a ward.


Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it.

I just got promoted into gold and even when I was in silver II and I that was pretty much how every single game went.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 04:12:15
April 30 2013 04:11 GMT
#140
On April 30 2013 13:04 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 13:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
I always go wolves blue wraiths wolves red golems gank... o_o

Also, am I the only one who chooses a jungler based on blue/purple side? I really like Hecarim on purple, Lee and Naut on Blue. Hec can clippety clop after doing my standard path to top, while Lee and Naut can clear then camp in the bot lane bush.


Don't you lose red a lot and/or have your team rage at you while they throw away firstblood?

If a team rages at me for not ganking soon enough even though I'm on my first clear I just mute them lol. Really it depends on the jungler. On Jarven and Xin getting smiteless straight into Red is nice for early pressure, but if you're playing Hec or Naut who need levels ASAP there's nothing wrong with that path.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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