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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:58 Sufficiency wrote: Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it. Nautilus' the only jungler I know that can't do it (he can, but he really, really, really shouldn't). All the others can. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:58 Sufficiency wrote: Skipping wraiths AND doubles? I doubt it. Or at least I have rarely seen it. It's more common to do that than it is to not do it. You base it primarily off the starting items (i.e. wards) and how the lane is starting to push. There's usually a lane open enough to at least force a flash. It's worth so much more to set someone behind early than to clear wraiths. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
From the spotlight it didn't look like her E travesl long enough for the duration of self R to wear off before you can teleport to your E again | ||
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On April 30 2013 12:19 cLutZ wrote: Seems alot like Morg with that Ult. Zhonyas core IMO. Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:37 thenexusp wrote: Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad i've seen quiiiiite a few zhonya's on vlad in LCS. i think riot's design philosophy makes it so that playing to a champ's strengths rather than trying to compensate for his or her weaknesses is generally how you build stuff. so if you're invincible, get more invincible. what i thought was really cool though is that the turret will still focus lissandra when she's supposedly invincible according to the champ spotlight. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:37 thenexusp wrote: Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad So what you're saying is that it's a must-buy. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:37 thenexusp wrote: Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad Zhonyas is awesome on Vlad... | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:37 thenexusp wrote: Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad Zhonyas is like a core item on Vlad and all the high elo Fizz players I've seen the past month and a halfish pretty much all went lich -> zhonya. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:37 thenexusp wrote: Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad Zhonyas is a must-buy on every champ you mentioned except maybe Elise. Zhonyas is great on Fizz and Vlad 'cause the 2 seconds can buy you precious time for your stuff to come off cd and they're often in the midst of the team fight so they benefit greatly from the tankiness. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:27 Nos- wrote: From the spotlight it didn't look like her E travesl long enough for the duration of self R to wear off before you can teleport to your E again My testing on the PBE says otherwise. I mashed on E while I was inside my ult but I never teleported to it. Not sure how long the E lasts, but I think it's less than 1.5 seconds. I didn't try self casting R, so maybe that would save like a fraction of a second, not sure if that would make the difference. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:37 thenexusp wrote: Except Lissandra already has a built-in zhonya's on that ult A second zhonya's would be hilarious but it'd be like building zhonya's on elise or fizz or vlad Building zhonya's is actually pretty standard on all 3 of those champs that you mentioned if you are looking for tankyness/damage. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 30 2013 13:38 Frolossus wrote: amp + pot was never a good opening for mid lane just cause everything is gonna outsustain you at that point Which is fine if you just want to stay in lane for 2 waves. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
On April 30 2013 14:33 Argoth. wrote: I like how Quinn dies in like every fight in the spotlight "highlighting" her buffs. Also RIP many manaless champions Yeah it's pretty funny how it just shows her going bird form, flying into 3 people and just dying. How feasible would it be for an organization (Teamliquid?!?!) to take a promising team of Koreans, maybe one of the 100+ teams that tried to qualify for OGN, bring them to USA and try to qualify for NA LCS? Is there some sort of rule against that? After watching OGN, NA LCS seems like child's play. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On April 30 2013 14:02 onlywonderboy wrote: My testing on the PBE says otherwise. I mashed on E while I was inside my ult but I never teleported to it. Not sure how long the E lasts, but I think it's less than 1.5 seconds. I didn't try self casting R, so maybe that would save like a fraction of a second, not sure if that would make the difference. That's so disappointing. They need to like increase the range by a slight amount and also lower the projectile speed(to keep it basically balanced the same) so that it works. It's 1 thing to not be able to E->Zhonya's->E, but to not even be able to use her ult to ensure her escape sucks. Anyhow, does anyone that's played her on PBE have an idea of how mana hungry she is? Passive seems like it won't help that much, and I want to know if she's a tear->core or more like Diana with the D-ring or 2->core without running around bitching about mana every time you want to shove a wave or 2. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 30 2013 14:51 Leeto wrote: Yeah it's pretty funny how it just shows her going bird form, flying into 3 people and just dying. How feasible would it be for an organization (Teamliquid?!?!) to take a promising team of Koreans, maybe one of the 100+ teams that tried to qualify for OGN, bring them to USA and try to qualify for NA LCS? Is there some sort of rule against that? After watching OGN, NA LCS seems like child's play. It's based on residency not citizenship, so they would have to get green cards or work visas (or something along those lines, I'm not sure how NA work stuff works exactly). Not impossible but there are some hoops to jump through. | ||
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