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On April 30 2013 14:51 Leeto wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 14:33 Argoth. wrote:
I like how Quinn dies in like every fight in the spotlight "highlighting" her buffs. Also RIP many manaless champions Yeah it's pretty funny how it just shows her going bird form, flying into 3 people and just dying. How feasible would it be for an organization (Teamliquid?!?!) to take a promising team of Koreans, maybe one of the 100+ teams that tried to qualify for OGN, bring them to USA and try to qualify for NA LCS? Is there some sort of rule against that? After watching OGN, NA LCS seems like child's play.
kickstart gogo
also, lissandra has almost no mana problems w/ chalice ive found. range is bad and she's squishy, so im going straight athenes/zhonyas. liandrys good too, dunno if you want a roa.
a champ with a free zonyas and flash that DO DAMAGE. its crazy.
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I propose we start an underground slavery organization where we kidnap Challenger Koreans, drag them to America and force them to play in the LCS.
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On April 30 2013 14:51 Leeto wrote:
How feasible would it be for an organization (Teamliquid?!?!) to take a promising team of Koreans, maybe one of the 100+ teams that tried to qualify for OGN, bring them to USA and try to qualify for NA LCS? Is there some sort of rule against that? After watching OGN, NA LCS seems like child's play.
Or you could do what SKT did: get a second-tier team, and send them to IEMs to clown on Western teams, and as a result turn them into the most overhyped team in Korea.
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On April 30 2013 15:35 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 14:51 Leeto wrote:
How feasible would it be for an organization (Teamliquid?!?!) to take a promising team of Koreans, maybe one of the 100+ teams that tried to qualify for OGN, bring them to USA and try to qualify for NA LCS? Is there some sort of rule against that? After watching OGN, NA LCS seems like child's play. Or you could do what SKT did: get a second-tier team, and send them to IEMs to clown on Western teams, and as a result turn them into the most overhyped team in Korea.
But then have the #2 team that turns out to be pretty legit.
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On April 30 2013 15:23 red_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 14:02 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 30 2013 13:27 Nos- wrote:On April 30 2013 12:56 onlywonderboy wrote:On April 30 2013 12:39 TheYango wrote:
She better be able to E->R->E. I have bad news for you... From the spotlight it didn't look like her E travesl long enough for the duration of self R to wear off before you can teleport to your E again My testing on the PBE says otherwise. I mashed on E while I was inside my ult but I never teleported to it. Not sure how long the E lasts, but I think it's less than 1.5 seconds. I didn't try self casting R, so maybe that would save like a fraction of a second, not sure if that would make the difference. That's so disappointing. They need to like increase the range by a slight amount and also lower the projectile speed(to keep it basically balanced the same) so that it works. It's 1 thing to not be able to E->Zhonya's->E, but to not even be able to use her ult to ensure her escape sucks. Anyhow, does anyone that's played her on PBE have an idea of how mana hungry she is? Passive seems like it won't help that much, and I want to know if she's a tear->core or more like Diana with the D-ring or 2->core without running around bitching about mana every time you want to shove a wave or 2.
How mana hungry she is depends on your spell usage. You'll get at least one free spell per creep wave, and if you max E first a quick QE combo pretty much clears everything once you have some AP. She's only mana hungry if you max Q first and spam it recklessly. Tear/Chalice builds are probably overboard for her.
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Found out a guy I used to play with who is silver got boosted to plat, god this is hilarious.
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On April 30 2013 15:34 Chrispy wrote:
I propose we start an underground slavery organization where we kidnap Challenger Koreans, drag them to America and force them to play in the LCS.
I approve of this message.
And the B-team will be composed of Chinese players, all of whom have mechanical skills of WeiXiao.
and Yango will be their diabolical head coach.
And Neo can keep rooting for CLG. hue.
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On April 30 2013 15:41 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 15:34 Chrispy wrote:
I propose we start an underground slavery organization where we kidnap Challenger Koreans, drag them to America and force them to play in the LCS. I approve of this message. And the B-team will be composed of Chinese players, all of whom have mechanical skills of WeiXiao. and Yango will be their diabolical head coach. And Neo can keep rooting for CLG. hue.
If CLG has to play Azure Cats I'm not sure what he's going to do. Testing his love of CLG against his love of Jiji, it's some brutal shit.
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On April 30 2013 15:44 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 15:41 wei2coolman wrote:On April 30 2013 15:34 Chrispy wrote:
I propose we start an underground slavery organization where we kidnap Challenger Koreans, drag them to America and force them to play in the LCS. I approve of this message. And the B-team will be composed of Chinese players, all of whom have mechanical skills of WeiXiao. and Yango will be their diabolical head coach. And Neo can keep rooting for CLG. hue. If CLG has to play Azure Cats I'm not sure what he's going to do. Testing his love of CLG against his love of Jiji, it's some brutal shit.
Either way he can pretend punch HSGG in the face
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All second teams in Korea started/are better than their first team.
Blaze and Frost are pretty equal. Tops are arguably the best in the world at the moment. Blaze has a stronger mid, but Frost has the definite advantage in bot lane.
Sword is better than Shield.
B is waaaay better than A.
#2 is a team build around Faker and #1 is built around Reapered, and Faker has a better supporting cast so they're doing better.
Blue (GSG) is better than Ozone.
And even LG-IM 2 looks beastly in the Code A of Korea with their main team looking meh.
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On April 30 2013 10:59 LeeDawg wrote:
wait, so i can't sell all my items at the end and buy 6 boots of speed? WTF riot
it makes me sad that when im mad i can no longer go 6 boots
:/
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whaaat new Nunu Splash looks badass, can't beat TPA nunu skin but still badass.
Gonna try Sejuani now
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Smash with the quadra hehe, Lissandra sure looks promising.
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wtf i cant stack sorc shoes for magic pen anymore?
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On April 30 2013 17:13 De4ngus wrote:
wtf i cant stack sorc shoes for magic pen anymore?
IKR
*slit*
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On April 30 2013 08:26 kongoline wrote:
so is new karma going to be op or not?
Shhh, don't talk about it.
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On April 30 2013 15:54 Fionn wrote:
All second teams in Korea started/are better than their first team.
Blaze and Frost are pretty equal. Tops are arguably the best in the world at the moment. Blaze has a stronger mid, but Frost has the definite advantage in bot lane.
Sword is better than Shield.
B is waaaay better than A.
#2 is a team build around Faker and #1 is built around Reapered, and Faker has a better supporting cast so they're doing better.
Blue (GSG) is better than Ozone.
And even LG-IM 2 looks beastly in the Code A of Korea with their main team looking meh.
It is the same in NA too. Both Crs and Vulcun are better than CLG......
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On April 30 2013 17:34 cascades wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 15:54 Fionn wrote:
All second teams in Korea started/are better than their first team.
Blaze and Frost are pretty equal. Tops are arguably the best in the world at the moment. Blaze has a stronger mid, but Frost has the definite advantage in bot lane.
Sword is better than Shield.
B is waaaay better than A.
#2 is a team build around Faker and #1 is built around Reapered, and Faker has a better supporting cast so they're doing better.
Blue (GSG) is better than Ozone.
And even LG-IM 2 looks beastly in the Code A of Korea with their main team looking meh. It is the same in NA too. Both Crs and Vulcun are better than CLG......
Soon to add Azure to that.
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On April 30 2013 17:57 Serelitz wrote:
So...
Support Lissandra?
It looks ok but still decidedly second tier. I mean look at what she's got:
-Really weak but low CD skillshot slow
-AOE but low duration AOE root with really low range
-1.5 second targeted stun ult/zhonya
the slow on Q AND the root on W scale with levels, which is really unfortunate for her on support, not sure which would be maxed first. A melee range 1.1 second root is pretty damn weak, but so is a 16% slow on a non, pass through skillshot. She would be pretty damn weak in laning, in teamfights she has an OK initiate but actually not so great because if she dives in and ults herself her ult will do pretty measly damage because she is a support, and has no utility, and she will be blow up immediately afterward. It seems better for her to stay back and peel and use her ult on a diver.
Compare her kit for support with say Karma....
-Karmas low CD skillshot slow starts at 25% at level one so you can one point wonder it.
-Tether has longer range and scales up to a two second root
-Shield shields, and gives a huge MS bonus.
-Mantra, make Q a big strong 50% slow field or shield and shurelias entire team.
and Karma isn't really considered top tier....so Lissandra looks pretty shitty if workable. The per level scaling CC on both her skills kills her as a support IMO.
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EPT
