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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 20 2013 16:21 GMT
#2401
On April 21 2013 01:17 IamPryda wrote:
View on not owning support runes and playing ranked? I own 5 runes pages and just hate wasting one on support runes. Don't get me wrong I don't mind support with someone I know. but I hate solo q bot in general and a great support is useless with a bad adc where atleast a bad adc u can Try to play safe and hope for a short lane phase


I assume it's based on your level of play. I just have standard armour/mr/ms runes and play every role so far around silver perfectly fine. I'd imagine as you get higher it becomes more important.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 16:25:03
April 20 2013 16:24 GMT
#2402
On April 21 2013 01:17 IamPryda wrote:
View on not owning support runes and playing ranked? I own 5 runes pages and just hate wasting one on support runes. Don't get me wrong I don't mind support with someone I know. but I hate solo q bot in general and a great support is useless with a bad adc where atleast a bad adc u can Try to play safe and hope for a short lane phase

I'd say that Support is actually currently the very best role for carrying solo queue at all levels, especially lower ones because they have the worst supports by far.

Why do you feel like support is useless, exactly?

And dunno, I cannot think of 5 non-support pages that I would really need. I guess you can go with either a mage page or a tank page depending on the support.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
April 20 2013 16:27 GMT
#2403
Mmyeah, id say people who claim supports cant carry, are just bad at the role. :I
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 16:38:00
April 20 2013 16:35 GMT
#2404
Gp/10 quints are pretty useful when you're playing support in a ranked 5's setting. You can get away with not having them sometimes (they're not always the best), but as far as having a well rounded support page that gives you the best shot of winning, I would say it's fairly important. Otherwise you're going to tend to have fewer wards than someone who does have a support page. Then you're kind of screwed when they start being a bastard and pinking all your wards.

It's probably not as bad as it was last season due to the passive gold flow being increased, and sight stone helps a lot too. But personally, I always feel flat broke when I don't have them. :>

It also depends on the support a lot though. I wouldn't have a problem running my AD marks+quints/armor seals/mr per level gylphs on Sona for instance, which is the exact same page you would use as ADC. If you have a tanky AP/AD page, I wouldn't feel too terrible about using those. But there is a definitely a trade off.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 20 2013 16:38 GMT
#2405
On April 21 2013 00:41 Sufficiency wrote:
Is it me or is ZAC very RNG dependent? I feel that I failed quite a few towerdives because my globs placed themselves in the worst place possible.

I've had similar results, but it's not overwhelming. It's very annoying when every blob flies out towards your opponent and you can't pick them up, but you only need like 1-3 to get back a loooot of health.
It's your boy Guzma!
Phil4994
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States143 Posts
April 20 2013 16:49 GMT
#2406
Got to challenger carrying with Janna 0.o
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
April 20 2013 16:49 GMT
#2407
On April 21 2013 01:27 Gaslo wrote:
Mmyeah, id say people who claim supports cant carry, are just bad at the role. :I

O I am not saying a good support can't carry hence why thresh is banned so much. But in solo q I fine adc's to be the worst players even at plat on solo q. Maybe it's just bad experience but I feel like a good adc should adjust his play style to the supports not the other way around and in solo q I constantly get adc's who Think Bot is a dictatorship not a duo
Moar banelings less qq
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 20 2013 17:13 GMT
#2408
Also yes never play Zac into Elise ugh.

Like at least with Teemo if I can get into range with him I can fight him to death. Elise will just spiderform and win the fight anyway. There's a reason I have a stupid KDA and W/L with her
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 20 2013 17:23 GMT
#2409
On April 20 2013 15:48 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 15:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 20 2013 15:19 sylverfyre wrote:
On April 20 2013 15:00 Craton wrote:
It just feels wrong for XxRobertxLeexX to have so many viewers

Eh, why.

He's actually pretty good (there's better, I guess, but pretty much all the NA players who are better are at LCS.)

It's good that he's recovering from the severe concussion.

I've heard one of the worst things you can do when recovering from a concussion is stare at a screen for hours/play video games.


He said a big reason he plays is that as hes remembering League, he feels like hes recovering somewhat. I really like the guy.

Also, is MF damage ridiculous, or is Ezreal just weak? I had an infinity edge over her, and she still had more dps than me.

Edit: Or am I just bad.

For shorter periods of time, her AS steroid is just as good as yours (but yours can be maintained), while also giving a pretty reasonable amount of magic on-hit damage. Her Q hits about as hard as yours. Your base AS is worse than hers.

Furthermore, there's nothing huge that you can juke with your Arcane Shift, so you can't leverage your biggest advantage over her - mobility. You're also not leveraging your poking ability against her if you're fighting her straight up. Your best bet is to kite her with Q's and only hard engage when she's chunked down.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 17:50:11
April 20 2013 17:49 GMT
#2410
So Rylais + Liandrys Viktor.


5.5sec 15% slow and a 7 second Liandry dot with 5.5 sec of it being double dmg for E, and ult with some beast DoT and slow(to help it stick to the target) for the duration.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 17:57:01
April 20 2013 17:56 GMT
#2411
edit: accident wrong thread etc sorry for doublepost
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 20 2013 18:17 GMT
#2412
On April 20 2013 23:45 Chrispy wrote:


Guys we did it. We finally beat Marcou!

Now to just dig up the quote of Smash saying how he could do Matt's job way better and send it to Riot CEO... commence Operation Get a TLer as Head of LoLesports. To hell with this Nick Allen fella.


Why make this a Marcou thing in the first place?

Nick Allen seems to be a much better pick here for the job at least. He had quite a bit of experience for live events through IPL. It should be just a congratulations offered to Nick Allen than to focus on negatives with Marcou. Why use a decent announcement that's essentially a positive, and turn it into a generic bash?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 20 2013 18:19 GMT
#2413
Why are hybrid penetration marks so damn expensive? 820 IP each. WTF.
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-20 18:39:23
April 20 2013 18:38 GMT
#2414
On my smurf, support is terrible. I can be 1v2ing the lane, and when I've gotten both support and ADC to 50%, I allin the next time my CD's are up. I die after pinging, blowing flash and exhaust, and my ADC has gotten 3 more CS, with absolutely no followup or indication of knowing that he could have gotten a double kill.

Much better to play stuff like "support" leblanc, help your ADC CS by getting all the ones he'd miss, and also take all the kills.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
April 20 2013 18:43 GMT
#2415
On April 21 2013 03:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Why are hybrid penetration marks so damn expensive? 820 IP each. WTF.


I agree, I was looking for new runes to fill up the rune pages I bought on sale and was considering these until I saw the price. 1/4 of a rune page worth of runes for more than the most expensive champs? ouch!
I got nothin'...
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
April 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#2416
On April 21 2013 01:17 IamPryda wrote:
View on not owning support runes and playing ranked? I own 5 runes pages and just hate wasting one on support runes. Don't get me wrong I don't mind support with someone I know. but I hate solo q bot in general and a great support is useless with a bad adc where atleast a bad adc u can Try to play safe and hope for a short lane phase



Don't make a support rune page, if you don't play support except when you're forced to.


Runes/masteries such as gp10 quints, utility tree etc. are required to play support, but it makes such a little difference that in 99% of all games you will not sit back and say "i lost cus of my runes/masteries".


Just make sure you get armor seals and mres glyphs, quints and marks can be whatever the fuck you want basicly.
hi
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
April 20 2013 18:55 GMT
#2417
On April 21 2013 03:51 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 01:17 IamPryda wrote:
View on not owning support runes and playing ranked? I own 5 runes pages and just hate wasting one on support runes. Don't get me wrong I don't mind support with someone I know. but I hate solo q bot in general and a great support is useless with a bad adc where atleast a bad adc u can Try to play safe and hope for a short lane phase



Don't make a support rune page, if you don't play support except when you're forced to.


Runes/masteries such as gp10 quints, utility tree etc. are required to play support, but it makes such a little difference that in 99% of all games you will not sit back and say "i lost cus of my runes/masteries".


Just make sure you get armor seals and mres glyphs, quints and marks can be whatever the fuck you want basicly.


If you're a low enough elo, armor/mres matters more because you can just get all your gold from the kills that happen in lane.
Sweet.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 20 2013 18:57 GMT
#2418
On April 21 2013 01:27 Gaslo wrote:
Mmyeah, id say people who claim supports cant carry, are just bad at the role. :I


Or probably they have not bought thresh and lulu.
Freeeeeeedom
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
April 20 2013 18:57 GMT
#2419
On April 21 2013 03:17 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2013 23:45 Chrispy wrote:
https://twitter.com/RiotTiza/status/325399956166938624

Guys we did it. We finally beat Marcou!

Now to just dig up the quote of Smash saying how he could do Matt's job way better and send it to Riot CEO... commence Operation Get a TLer as Head of LoLesports. To hell with this Nick Allen fella.


Why make this a Marcou thing in the first place?

Nick Allen seems to be a much better pick here for the job at least. He had quite a bit of experience for live events through IPL. It should be just a congratulations offered to Nick Allen than to focus on negatives with Marcou. Why use a decent announcement that's essentially a positive, and turn it into a generic bash?


Why not?

'Twas just a joke anyway, I wasn't even aware Marcou was still in charge of da Esports until I heard this announcement and only then did I remember all the silly things he did.
Retvrn to Forvms
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
April 20 2013 19:00 GMT
#2420
On April 21 2013 03:55 rackdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 03:51 Sponkz wrote:
On April 21 2013 01:17 IamPryda wrote:
View on not owning support runes and playing ranked? I own 5 runes pages and just hate wasting one on support runes. Don't get me wrong I don't mind support with someone I know. but I hate solo q bot in general and a great support is useless with a bad adc where atleast a bad adc u can Try to play safe and hope for a short lane phase



Don't make a support rune page, if you don't play support except when you're forced to.


Runes/masteries such as gp10 quints, utility tree etc. are required to play support, but it makes such a little difference that in 99% of all games you will not sit back and say "i lost cus of my runes/masteries".


Just make sure you get armor seals and mres glyphs, quints and marks can be whatever the fuck you want basicly.


If you're a low enough elo, armor/mres matters more because you can just get all your gold from the kills that happen in lane.



No? It's the opposite. If you're low elo you gotta do some cheese shit like running mpen marks and 10% mpen from masteries. You're outplaying them anyways if u don't belong there lol.
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