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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 15:07:28
March 01 2013 14:50 GMT
#141
Uh? She has excellent single-target and AoE damage, burst and superior sustained damage than a lot of mages, a great point'n'click slow to catch people along with her MS buff, a heal, and the ridiculously short cooldown on her ult. She's not "a bit strong", she's freakishingly strong in lane with excellent superb roaming/skirmishing by abusing her ult and Q in the midgame, and great utility later. Plus she has AoE %resistances shred.

Did a client repair and the client keeps on crashing when I'm looking at a profile. Does it affect other people?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 15:08:34
March 01 2013 15:00 GMT
#142
Biggest problem with going solo top taric is that always there's someone in your team who starts trolling if I pick it even though I've done well in every single game I've played as solo top taric.

Annoying dealing with "OK 2 PEOPLE TOP" and constant queuedodges, it's really difficult trying to figure out a good build like this.


Currently the biggest issue is the Q mana cost, it's really difficult to get enough mana regen without bluebuff to properly sustain it. If Nashor's Tooth still had mana regen it'd probably be far better. Going Chalice is kind of dumb because it doesn't do anything otherwise.

Maybe I could try starting RoA but then I'd delay my actual core far too much. Could also just not level heal until later but that's given me problems during laning because of the cooldown being so long in that case.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1886 Posts
March 01 2013 15:08 GMT
#143
Don't his skills have too much CD to make a Triforce viable? He has 0,6 rating on his W and 0,8 rating on his E, 07 on his R.

Assuming he has a Dorans Ring, a Kages and 15 AP from runes/masteries, which is kind of likely,when turning 6, leveling R>W>E>Q his full Combo does R 150(+38,5) + E (half range) 60 (+72) + W 150 (+72+10 for armor) = 552,5.

Annie for comparison deals:

165 (+38,5) + 80 (+41,25) + 200 (+38,5) = 543

Of course you can't compare them, butwith these ap ratios, why would i not want to build a little AP too? Rod of ages looks pretty good on him if you follow that logic.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 01 2013 15:10 GMT
#144
With 30% CDR he needs 3 autos on a champion to reset Q cooldown
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
March 01 2013 15:11 GMT
#145
That's rough. You could always do it in ranked 5s I suppose.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 15:19:13
March 01 2013 15:15 GMT
#146
On March 02 2013 00:08 Broetchenholer wrote:
Don't his skills have too much CD to make a Triforce viable? He has 0,6 rating on his W and 0,8 rating on his E, 07 on his R.

Assuming he has a Dorans Ring, a Kages and 15 AP from runes/masteries, which is kind of likely,when turning 6, leveling R>W>E>Q his full Combo does R 150(+38,5) + E (half range) 60 (+72) + W 150 (+72+10 for armor) = 552,5.

Annie for comparison deals:

165 (+38,5) + 80 (+41,25) + 200 (+38,5) = 543

Of course you can't compare them, butwith these ap ratios, why would i not want to build a little AP too? Rod of ages looks pretty good on him if you follow that logic.


Hahahah, AP Taric mid OP. That would be so cool.

Edit: RoA, Lichbane, Zhona's, Dcap, Athenes, Sorc Boots. Hahaha would be so awesome.
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Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
March 01 2013 15:23 GMT
#147
Being around 1700, I've noticed that AD Taric top is a very viable counter to Garen. His mana costs weren't a problem with the old passive (Not sure about this one) but he could hold his own top and be very useful with stuns and great burst damage in team fights (also healing). I'd love to try him top after his re-work which would give his autos even more damage. Just have to be wary of your mana and maintaining it.

Don't take him vs Ranged top, doesn't do very well
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 15:25:02
March 01 2013 15:24 GMT
#148
i think riot already did all the countering to garen they could

i cant imagine taric having much trouble vs ranged top when he can just spam heal himself with tear and farm and have solid gank support
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 15:48:52
March 01 2013 15:48 GMT
#149
Tear -> Rod of Ages -> Blade of the Ruined King -> Gauntlet -> Manamune ->Spirit Visage.


I think I figured out the ultimate taric build. Full double pen runes.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
March 01 2013 15:48 GMT
#150
Bleh Ranked Queue disabled. Speaking of Ranked, I really like the new system. I can play ranked now and not have to worry about my Elo. I had ladder anxiety when I played SC2 with the same system and had ranked anxiety when I played ranked with the Elo system (I usually played 3 games max always stopping when I lost) but now I can play 5-6 games in a row without a care in the world. Gives me a better chance to improve my game and enjoy playing while doing it.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 01 2013 15:52 GMT
#151
On March 01 2013 23:50 Alaric wrote:
Uh? She has excellent single-target and AoE damage, burst and superior sustained damage than a lot of mages, a great point'n'click slow to catch people along with her MS buff, a heal, and the ridiculously short cooldown on her ult. She's not "a bit strong", she's freakishingly strong in lane with excellent superb roaming/skirmishing by abusing her ult and Q in the midgame, and great utility later. Plus she has AoE %resistances shred.

Did a client repair and the client keeps on crashing when I'm looking at a profile. Does it affect other people?


When you play Viktor a lot, Kayle looks really strong. She's on par with the better solo laners.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
March 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#152
On March 02 2013 00:48 Zhiroo wrote:
Bleh Ranked Queue disabled. Speaking of Ranked, I really like the new system. I can play ranked now and not have to worry about my Elo. I had ladder anxiety when I played SC2 with the same system and had ranked anxiety when I played ranked with the Elo system (I usually played 3 games max always stopping when I lost) but now I can play 5-6 games in a row without a care in the world. Gives me a better chance to improve my game and enjoy playing while doing it.


I like it overall myself. I just want them to fix the problems at the higher end of play and then it should be an acceptable substitute (week long grace periods, etc.).
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 01 2013 15:57 GMT
#153
On March 02 2013 00:52 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 23:50 Alaric wrote:
Uh? She has excellent single-target and AoE damage, burst and superior sustained damage than a lot of mages, a great point'n'click slow to catch people along with her MS buff, a heal, and the ridiculously short cooldown on her ult. She's not "a bit strong", she's freakishingly strong in lane with excellent superb roaming/skirmishing by abusing her ult and Q in the midgame, and great utility later. Plus she has AoE %resistances shred.

Did a client repair and the client keeps on crashing when I'm looking at a profile. Does it affect other people?


When you play Viktor a lot, Kayle looks really strong. She's on par with the better solo laners.

I don't even play Viktor that much recently, I'm in my Talon period. But I'm talking about in general, not as "a dude who lanes against her" (a Korean mid also said that Viktor is the champ that gives the most trouble to Kayle in lane along with Ryze—not sure why though).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 01 2013 15:58 GMT
#154
The changes to Kayle are going to turn her into more of a utility pick.

Removing the Q damage amplification but having it apply a fervor stack will reduce Kayle's damage to the target but increase other peoples. Increasing the slow will also make it easier for other people to dive on the target.

It's a nerf obviously, but it's pushing Kayle more towards a utility choice and less of a brute damage choice, so I'm sure there's some design intentions there.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 16:11:53
March 01 2013 16:11 GMT
#155
That was the trademark property of her Q though.

They could have imo done something like have it affect the whole team and the damage increase to be like 1/2/3/4/5%


Though they'd need to nerf the skill itself to compensate, still would be better than some lame stack that you'd add anyway
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
March 01 2013 16:13 GMT
#156
On March 02 2013 00:48 Zhiroo wrote:
Bleh Ranked Queue disabled. Speaking of Ranked, I really like the new system. I can play ranked now and not have to worry about my Elo. I had ladder anxiety when I played SC2 with the same system and had ranked anxiety when I played ranked with the Elo system (I usually played 3 games max always stopping when I lost) but now I can play 5-6 games in a row without a care in the world. Gives me a better chance to improve my game and enjoy playing while doing it.


I don't like it at all . Being Platinum meant something in S2 now everyone, absolutely everyone is going up and up and up and S3 platinum is filled with silver players, just because they play a lot. I have 2 friends that were 1600 elo S2 and are now Diamond with not much effort. I personally have much less motivation to play ranked and raise division.

I miss the old system, I was 1700 and thats where I knew I belonged and would raise only if I improved, and would drop if I trolled.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
March 01 2013 16:17 GMT
#157
On March 02 2013 01:13 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 00:48 Zhiroo wrote:
Bleh Ranked Queue disabled. Speaking of Ranked, I really like the new system. I can play ranked now and not have to worry about my Elo. I had ladder anxiety when I played SC2 with the same system and had ranked anxiety when I played ranked with the Elo system (I usually played 3 games max always stopping when I lost) but now I can play 5-6 games in a row without a care in the world. Gives me a better chance to improve my game and enjoy playing while doing it.


I don't like it at all . Being Platinum meant something in S2 now everyone, absolutely everyone is going up and up and up and S3 platinum is filled with silver players, just because they play a lot. I have 2 friends that were 1600 elo S2 and are now Diamond with not much effort. I personally have much less motivation to play ranked and raise division.

I miss the old system, I was 1700 and thats where I knew I belonged and would raise only if I improved, and would drop if I trolled.


Yeah but the S2 Plat players will go Diamond won't they?
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 01 2013 16:17 GMT
#158
Wow Quinn still isn't out.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 01 2013 16:19 GMT
#159
Loving the new Trist with Botrk -> IE. So strong at level 6 with W+E+Cutlass+R combo.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 16:23:22
March 01 2013 16:20 GMT
#160
On March 02 2013 00:58 Ketara wrote:
The changes to Kayle are going to turn her into more of a utility pick.

Removing the Q damage amplification but having it apply a fervor stack will reduce Kayle's damage to the target but increase other peoples. Increasing the slow will also make it easier for other people to dive on the target.

It's a nerf obviously, but it's pushing Kayle more towards a utility choice and less of a brute damage choice, so I'm sure there's some design intentions there.

Still has her ult on a 36 second CD at max CDR, all the utility she needs.
On March 02 2013 01:13 -Kato- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 00:48 Zhiroo wrote:
Bleh Ranked Queue disabled. Speaking of Ranked, I really like the new system. I can play ranked now and not have to worry about my Elo. I had ladder anxiety when I played SC2 with the same system and had ranked anxiety when I played ranked with the Elo system (I usually played 3 games max always stopping when I lost) but now I can play 5-6 games in a row without a care in the world. Gives me a better chance to improve my game and enjoy playing while doing it.


I don't like it at all . Being Platinum meant something in S2 now everyone, absolutely everyone is going up and up and up and S3 platinum is filled with silver players, just because they play a lot. I have 2 friends that were 1600 elo S2 and are now Diamond with not much effort. I personally have much less motivation to play ranked and raise division.

I miss the old system, I was 1700 and thats where I knew I belonged and would raise only if I improved, and would drop if I trolled.

Are you just playing with Silver players? The matchmaking wasn't changed, you should still be playing with people around the same skill level as you.
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