EPTOn March 07 2013 16:53 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Does Janna not get her own passive?
That's super shitty.
Does Janna not get her own passive?
That's super shitty.
Of course she does.
And btw, seriously, abuse her before she gets perm-banned/nerfed.
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Of course she does. And btw, seriously, abuse her before she gets perm-banned/nerfed. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:14 UniversalSnip wrote: im a vegetarian. I think you'd be a radish. So I go well in a salad? My group of friends turned my friend alex from a vegetarian to a meat eater again. I think buying him 5 pounds of bacon one christmas really did the job. | ||
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Tal
United Kingdom1018 Posts
Take poking. By timing multiple champions skillshots at the same time, and with a pattern in mind, they can be made practically undodgeable. Builds and champion choices could be synchronized accordingly - with the aim of firing a 3 champion volley every 9 seconds or similar. Take team fighting. Right now even the best teams seem to be fighting on instinct - reacting instantly to the changing movements of the other 9 champions. Targets will be focused down, vulnerable champions protected, and AOE ults chained, but beyond that there's generally not much of a plan.Teams could spend more time practicing team fights, working out set plays in the same way football teams do. The problem at the moment is the delay between communicating and acting. Just the time it takes to process 'focus xin' is time that could have been spent focussing xin. Even 0.5 seconds of moving with one mind could make the difference. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:22 Sufficiency wrote: Of course she does. And btw, seriously, abuse her before she gets perm-banned/nerfed. She's getting another buff from what I've read, increasing a full channel tornado knock to 1 second from .75. You think she's that strong? Seemed kinda meh after last round of nerfs. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:35 onlywonderboy wrote: She's getting another buff from what I've read, increasing a full channel tornado knock to 1 second from .75. You think she's that strong? Seemed kinda meh after last round of nerfs. I think she is currently retardedly strong in soloQ. The only reason why she isn't played in professional matches is because Janna is terribad in lane swaps and her roam is mediocre. Otherwise, many factors affected her power in S3: 1. Tanks got more defense and ADCs got less DPS, so kiting is more important than before... and Janna is great for kiting. 2. Tanky divers with gap closers are rampant, but they rarely build more than one damage item, so Janna's spammable shield is more relevant. 3. Assassins are also currently very strong, and Janna counters assassins really hard due to her shield and ult. Her win % also reflects this. She currently has the second highest win rate in soloQ at 53~54%. I think that's pretty significant considering she is played ~10% of the time and she is usually played as a support. + Show Spoiler + However, you can argue that the points I gave also applies to Lulu, yet Lulu performs really bad in soloQ. I am not 100% sure why... maybe there is something crucial I am missing here. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:27 Tal wrote: Random Theorycrafting: Does anyone else think there we are still very far from LoL's skillcap? On an individual level there are limits, but in terms of teamwork it feels unexplored. Take poking. By timing multiple champions skillshots at the same time, and with a pattern in mind, they can be made practically undodgeable. Builds and champion choices could be synchronized accordingly - with the aim of firing a 3 champion volley every 9 seconds or similar. Take team fighting. Right now even the best teams seem to be fighting on instinct - reacting instantly to the changing movements of the other 9 champions. Targets will be focused down, vulnerable champions protected, and AOE ults chained, but beyond that there's generally not much of a plan.Teams could spend more time practicing team fights, working out set plays in the same way football teams do. The problem at the moment is the delay between communicating and acting. Just the time it takes to process 'focus xin' is time that could have been spent focussing xin. Even 0.5 seconds of moving with one mind could make the difference. The thing about poke is that most of the time, you want to take a second or two to line up a shot. A good angle for one player may not be a good angle for another. Each poke by itself already does enough, and if everything is down it's going to be rough times if you get engaged on. Teamfighting - Every fight is very fluid. Very few fights start in the same manner, with the exact same CD's & champions & location. This is the reason you react on instinct and make calls is because at that level, the instincts are generally correct. Yelling a focus helps people switch targets onto a vulnerable champion, or collapse on a overextended champion. Teamfight strategies do exist, but they are much more a function of synergy and the execution is already practiced. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:35 onlywonderboy wrote: She's getting another buff from what I've read, increasing a full channel tornado knock to 1 second from .75. You think she's that strong? Seemed kinda meh after last round of nerfs. No one channels a full tornado for the knockup so its not even a buff, except marginally possible in lvl 1 fights where you full channel blind into a brush. I guess its also a buff at levels of play where people can't dodge the most telegraphed skill in the game. | ||
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Zizoz
United States232 Posts
I always lose with Lulu in solo queue recently though. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:49 Osmoses wrote: Lulu is hard to play, Janna is not :p I actually think they are roughly the same in terms of "difficulty". I can't think of a single reason why Lulu is supposed to be significantly harder to play than Janna. Sure, Lulu's Q is very narrow, but you get two of them. Also Lulu's R is (imo) one of the most fool-proof ultimate in the game. On March 07 2013 17:52 xes wrote: No one channels a full tornado for the knockup so its not even a buff, except marginally possible in lvl 1 fights where you full channel blind into a brush. I guess its also a buff at levels of play where people can't dodge the most telegraphed skill in the game. If I am not mistaken, even if you channel Janna Q in a brush, the opponents will still hear it.... so the surprise factor is sort of meh. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:49 Osmoses wrote: Lulu is hard to play, Janna is not :p Id rather have a great Janna on my team tho. As an ADC, a very good Janna is golden. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On March 07 2013 18:01 ihasaKAROT wrote: Id rather have a great Janna on my team tho. As an ADC, a very good Janna is golden. Definitely, Janna is great, and in solo que her being easy to play is only to the good. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 07 2013 16:24 onlywonderboy wrote: I like how whenever things get messed up balance wise people blame Smash lol, it happened with pre-season BC and BotRK. inb4 Karma is OP and it's Smash's fault lol. Edit: Also, Azubu is now the offical sponsor of TPA and TPS. Guess losing Blaze/Frost doesn't seem so bad for them after all (granted TPS are still a bit untested but TPA is still one of the best teams in the world) it has nothing to do with balance, but rather elegance of buff/nerf/changing. it's just like a majority of us would prefer longer patch cycles over shorter ones. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 07 2013 18:03 wei2coolman wrote: it has nothing to do with balance, but rather elegance of buff/nerf/changing. it's just like a majority of us would prefer longer patch cycles over shorter ones. Personally I don't mind the frequency of patches, I just think Riot's reactionary nerfs go a little too far sometimes. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:49 Osmoses wrote: Lulu is hard to play, Janna is not :p Can I have some of whatever you are on? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:52 xes wrote: No one channels a full tornado for the knockup so its not even a buff, except marginally possible in lvl 1 fights where you full channel blind into a brush. I guess its also a buff at levels of play where people can't dodge the most telegraphed skill in the game. Huge buff to those ninja side brush tornadoes lol. | ||
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Ezkaton
Japan416 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:53 Zizoz wrote: I'd say Janna is harder to play than Lulu. At least, I can play Lulu, but I can't play Janna. I always lose with Lulu in solo queue recently though. I thought it was just me! Lulu is one of my favorite champions to play but for some reason I just can never win with her in soloq Maybe I should just start playing her mid or something instead haha. I suck at Janna too qq. The only support I can actually win with/play is Taric. Good thing I don't have to support very often haha | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 07 2013 18:24 onlywonderboy wrote: Huge buff to those ninja side brush tornadoes lol. Can't you hear the tornado? I don't think you can ninja it. | ||
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