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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
February 26 2013 13:34 GMT
#2881
I miss LoL, My PC blew up and im left with a shitty ps3 untill my cpu fan arrives in like a month q.q (ship to UK then lanka)

Also, im with the aussie about you bastards complaining about tiny pings, i average 250. Took me quite some time to adapt after living in the UK with my 30-40
Useless wet fish.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 26 2013 13:41 GMT
#2882
On February 26 2013 16:17 Novacute wrote:
What is everyone's opinion on riven in this patch?

Passive change was a damage buff, makes it worthwhile to use ArPen marks on her. Other than that, no change. They failed to make any change in itemization worthwhile.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 26 2013 13:52 GMT
#2883
Her itemization didn't really feel awkward or bad anyway. BT, sometimes BC, defensive item (Randuins and Runic are my favorites.)
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
February 26 2013 14:35 GMT
#2884
On February 26 2013 21:16 Usagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 09:12 BlueBird. wrote:
Affinity was fun.

Skullclamp was not, it made strategies not involving skullclamp pretty awful(you just can't keep up with skullclamp) .

That is all.

Dont diss Skullclamp! I had lots of fun drawing my whole deck with any deck taht included it be it affinity, goblins, elves... xD


Skullclamp was banned from standard for a reason. Everybody either ran it or had to prepare to play against it, but that's not why I'm posting.

In the LCS we are seeing a lot of lane swaps, mostly the red team sends their duo lane top and gets golems, with the top laner going to the bot lane. The way a lot of teams deal with this as blue is to 3 man dive around at 3-5 minutes. I was thinking if Blue team doesn't first pick Cait, then you could see Red pick the Caitlyn Lulu combo for their top. Then instead of sending a bruiser bottom, you send Anivia bottom. Her passive giving her 2 HP bars may be just what teams need to stop these early dives. If you sacrifice offense in the runes for stuff like AD reds, armour yellows, mr blues, and HP quints she should be able to farm under tower like an adc, but have an aoe stun, and be tanky enough to discourage the 3 man dive. This is all just theory craft, but it was something I thought of last night when playing Anivia vs a Nidalee/Caitlyn bottom lane.
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 14:37:48
February 26 2013 14:37 GMT
#2885
On February 26 2013 21:33 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 16:53 JonnyLaw wrote:
Xin runs out of mana if you're spamming abilities on camps. Aside from his auto reset on Q his clear speed is not much faster than any other jungler with wriggles and aspd runes.

*edit - Sure if you take blue's Xin clears very quickly.

His first clear with blue buff is fairly fast, after that he usually has a point in W and 2 points in Q to clear fast. He isn't quite as fast as Vi, but frankly he is more than fast enough.

Should be maxing E not Q but yeah, his clear is pretty slow (i use the word "slow" because I'm too used to Vi's clear speed now) unless you want to spam abilities to clear which eats a ton of mana.

But once you get wriggles his clearing is perfectly fine.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 26 2013 15:04 GMT
#2886
On February 26 2013 23:35 Sabin010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 21:16 Usagi wrote:
On February 26 2013 09:12 BlueBird. wrote:
Affinity was fun.

Skullclamp was not, it made strategies not involving skullclamp pretty awful(you just can't keep up with skullclamp) .

That is all.

Dont diss Skullclamp! I had lots of fun drawing my whole deck with any deck taht included it be it affinity, goblins, elves... xD


Skullclamp was banned from standard for a reason. Everybody either ran it or had to prepare to play against it, but that's not why I'm posting.

In the LCS we are seeing a lot of lane swaps, mostly the red team sends their duo lane top and gets golems, with the top laner going to the bot lane. The way a lot of teams deal with this as blue is to 3 man dive around at 3-5 minutes. I was thinking if Blue team doesn't first pick Cait, then you could see Red pick the Caitlyn Lulu combo for their top. Then instead of sending a bruiser bottom, you send Anivia bottom. Her passive giving her 2 HP bars may be just what teams need to stop these early dives. If you sacrifice offense in the runes for stuff like AD reds, armour yellows, mr blues, and HP quints she should be able to farm under tower like an adc, but have an aoe stun, and be tanky enough to discourage the 3 man dive. This is all just theory craft, but it was something I thought of last night when playing Anivia vs a Nidalee/Caitlyn bottom lane.

Just remember that at low levels, your egg form actually has less Armor/MR than you do normally, so if they've comitted to a dive it's not much of an issue to burst it down.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 26 2013 15:07 GMT
#2887
Anivia has a resistances debuff at early levels with her passive, as long as you have some dps on top of your burst, and are coordinated enough to rotate tower aggro you will kill her, unless her jungler is here. She's still fairly squishy HP-wise (at the start at the least).

I'm playing Graves but that's because Vayne and Draven are too mechanically-demanding for me, I can't pick Ashe or Sivir early because they're too vulnerable to some lanes, and I stopped playing Ezreal entirely since he became popular (I was banning him just so we don't see him every game so... ). Maybe I have Trist too, but I'm horrible enough at last-hitting already without adding her E in the mix.
Learning Cait would most likely be a crutch because of her range, Corki I don't like at all, haven't tried Twitch yet, MF is FotM and I already see too much of her to add my play on top of it (I considered picking her when she was popular for her strong laning phase, in s2, never got around to it), haven't played Varus since his first free week but his model and the way he turns direction tends to annoy me so... I play Graves, suck with his low base AS esp. at low level, and try not to crumble in teamfights (his passive certainly is a crutch for bad positioning though).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 15:16:42
February 26 2013 15:13 GMT
#2888
I think Anivia is similiar with Tinker from Dota. Glacial Storm (tinker's m&m) all day long baby. Push in if you can.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 26 2013 15:21 GMT
#2889
Anivia Pre-6 will just get trucked by a duo lane. Good luck last hitting at tower with that AA unless you are Froggen and Anivia is so slow you can't avoid harass, and so squishy you just die anyways. Probably don't even need to 3 man dive. Taric + Graves/MF/Urgot could probably do it on their own.
Freeeeeeedom
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
February 26 2013 15:26 GMT
#2890
They can also just get the egg easy, back off and then you're dead whenever they chose to kill you? Without loads of mana and ult, anivia is pretty shitty for a 1v2 lane. You can send her to stop a team from taking the tower after she hits 6 though.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 26 2013 15:30 GMT
#2891
Picking specifically to defend against the 3 man dive means you need hard cc and ideally wave clear. So you pick a mana less jungler give your 1v2 blue and pick chogath for the lane

Something that would be interesting but probably not viable would be hp5 poppy. With runes and masteries and a 2 bead + pots start you can come into lane with 31 to 36 hp5 which goes to 80 with pots. With poppys passive that should make her a tough nut to crack
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 26 2013 15:49 GMT
#2892
there are lots of AP champs that would do fine bot lane in a 1v2 on purple side that haven't been explored yet
looking forward to some ziggs, ahri, gragas, lux solo bot lanes by the second half of LCS
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
February 26 2013 15:51 GMT
#2893
With Anivia I'm looking at the lvl 3 3-man dive. Between the wall to split them up, and the aoe stun, it seems really really risky. Say the jungler is going to initiate, but as he's going in one or more of his allies get walled off a bit. It just changes the timing, and the freedom to move around under that tower while it's hitting some one. One extra tower hit in the dive's we've been seeing have been the difference between 1 or more of the people diving dying. I think the stun, wall and egg can secure those extra tower hits. Going with a bottle opening can give you a little more mana and health to sustain until that 5 minute dive, and eventually you are going to his six, and have the opportunity to get blue and continually nuke down waves.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 26 2013 16:04 GMT
#2894
So you're looking at a solution to a very specific play that they are not required to do in order to make the 1v2 worth it and thinking it makes her 1v2 worthwhile overall?
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ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
February 26 2013 16:06 GMT
#2895
I don't understand... Everyone is always going on about how hecarim is the best soloQ jungler and how he's such a good carry jungler but I don't see how? He does pretty much NO damage and his ganks suck balls unless you can come from behind.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1967 Posts
February 26 2013 16:09 GMT
#2896
Has there ever been word on ditribution of playernumbers (percentages) between the different ranked tiers from Riot? Tried lolking, but they don't seem to have that statistic.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 26 2013 16:27 GMT
#2897
Speaking of AP bot, CRS sent Jacky bot as Orianna yesterday in one of their scrims vs GGU, so theyre definitely at least thinking about it. Then again, saint jungled singed in that game so not sure how serious they were taking it.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 26 2013 16:32 GMT
#2898
On February 27 2013 01:06 ArchAngelSC wrote:
I don't understand... Everyone is always going on about how hecarim is the best soloQ jungler and how he's such a good carry jungler but I don't see how? He does pretty much NO damage and his ganks suck balls unless you can come from behind.


iceborn gaunlet and spirit elder lizard on Heca is a beast
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
February 26 2013 16:38 GMT
#2899
On February 27 2013 01:09 Broetchenholer wrote:
Has there ever been word on ditribution of playernumbers (percentages) between the different ranked tiers from Riot? Tried lolking, but they don't seem to have that statistic.


Some guy on Reddit collected the data from lolking and made these graphs:
http://imgur.com/a/xTVoW
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 26 2013 16:38 GMT
#2900
On February 27 2013 00:49 gtrsrs wrote:
there are lots of AP champs that would do fine bot lane in a 1v2 on purple side that haven't been explored yet
looking forward to some ziggs, ahri, gragas, lux solo bot lanes by the second half of LCS



Yeah, this. Lux bot would be dandy, maybe Zyra too.
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