EPT[Patch 3.01: Season 3] General Discussion - Page 90
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Slusher
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:02 justiceknight wrote: CJ frost and CJ blaze..... Azubu Blaze + Frost in CJ jerseys Edit: Slow ponied :/ | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 05 2013 12:51 sob3k wrote: Whats wrong with Bveil? Didn't the cd on the shield go to 25sec from old45? EDIT: I see, its now 25 after taking champ damage. I think its better now than it was. It's not something you buy in lane. You were never going to get two shield in a fight. 25 sec is really short, I buy it all the time now and its up like all the time when you are sieging or roaming, def more than it used to be. No see, you're missing the trick to the old BVeil. On old BVeil, when the CD is DOWN, there is no way for you to lose the shield. This means that in a situation with a coordinated team, you can try and make fights happen when the CD is *almost* up. E.g. you have 5-10 seconds on the BVeil CD, and your Malphite ults in. Then, when you get dived/an AP tries to unload on you, your BVeil comes up the moment when they need to cast an important spell on you--which suddenly creates the awkward scenario where they have to break a BVeil when they're already committed. When you get dived, the BVeil CD JUST comes up. An observer might chalk this up to luck that "BVeil happened to come up in time", but in a scenario where your team can control when fights start, you can get much more value out of the BVeil passive in making sure it doesn't get poked down. It's not luck, it's keeping track of the BVeil CD. You can't do this anymore. The BVeil CD resets when you take champ damage, meaning that you can no longer control BVeil's CD for it to come up at the right time like this. | ||
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adriftt
335 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:05 Slusher wrote: what happenes to their current team, they have some really talented players (space and insec are amazing. According to the reddit comments (could be wrong), the current team will remain under contract and the players will compete with the current members of Blaze/Frost for starting spots. I find it hard to believe that either team will actually replace one of their starters but we will see I guess. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:12 adriftt wrote: According to the reddit comments (could be wrong), the current team will remain under contract and the players will compete with the current members of Blaze/Frost for starting spots. I find it hard to believe that either team will actually replace one of their starters but we will see I guess. depends who the judge is, space it better than woong but his teammates might be too loyal to see it that way. and InSec is good enough to compete with Templar and Helios but probly not by enough to shake things up. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:09 zulu_nation8 wrote: so I was 1-0 in my division series but had to dodge because my client bugged, I lost 10 LP and forfeited the series... Shit's kinda lame. Lotta things can happen to trigger/warrant a dodge, but I think forfeiting a series is insanely harsh. Rather see like a one game loss or something. | ||
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adriftt
335 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:14 Slusher wrote: depends who the judge is, space it better than woong but his teammates might be too loyal to see it that way. and InSec is good enough to compete with Templar and Helios but probly not by enough to shake things up. Yeah I thought the same. Top lane, support, and mid are all pretty locked down. Woong could potentially be replaced but since he is the team captain I don't see it happening. Insec replacing Helios is the only one I can really imagine being possible. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:10 TheYango wrote: No see, you're missing the trick to the old BVeil. On old BVeil, when the CD is DOWN, there is no way for you to lose the shield. This means that in a situation with a coordinated team, you can try and make fights happen when the CD is *almost* up. E.g. you have 5-10 seconds on the BVeil CD, and your Malphite ults in. Then, when you get dived/an AP tries to unload on you, your BVeil comes up the moment when they need to cast an important spell on you--which suddenly creates the awkward scenario where they have to break a BVeil when they're already committed. When you get dived, the BVeil CD JUST comes up. An observer might chalk this up to luck that "BVeil happened to come up in time", but in a scenario where your team can control when fights start, you can get much more value out of the BVeil passive in making sure it doesn't get poked down. It's not luck, it's keeping track of the BVeil CD. You can't do this anymore. The BVeil CD resets when you take champ damage, meaning that you can no longer control BVeil's CD for it to come up at the right time like this. Yes, I think we all know this, they removed it specifically because its pretty bullshit as its basically impossible for the other team to keep track of. I think its still a incredibly good item. IMO it realllllly shines on assassins, you surprise jump on someone with your bveil up and go to town on them and they are basically totally fucked. It increases dueling power hugely and makes a high mobility champ like twice as hard to catch/burst. The only issue I have with it is that its big chunk of mana makes me not want it on a ton of champs. I fucking love it on kassadin/fizz etc. You jump someone and they have to decide in .2 seconds what they are going to waste on Bveil, and then you just silence them/ trollpole the rest. | ||
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Slusher
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:22 sob3k wrote: Yes, I think we all know this, they removed it specifically because its pretty bullshit as its basically impossible for the other team to keep track of. How is it impossible for the other team to keep track of? You have the same counter on it that the owner does--you know when the shell breaks, and you count off 45 seconds. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:24 I_Love_Bacon wrote: XJ9's awkward level is just too high. I can't watch him anymore. He's like 16 what do you expect | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
interesting how so many of the top 10 most played champs have a <50% win ratio. taric, mf, xin and lux (sort of) are the only positive ones. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Slusher
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:19 adriftt wrote: Yeah I thought the same. Top lane, support, and mid are all pretty locked down. Woong could potentially be replaced but since he is the team captain I don't see it happening. Insec replacing Helios is the only one I can really imagine being possible. Frankly if there was a way to get Woong off of Frost, they would have done it already... they really dont like him... | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On February 05 2013 13:10 TheYango wrote: No see, you're missing the trick to the old BVeil. On old BVeil, when the CD is DOWN, there is no way for you to lose the shield. This means that in a situation with a coordinated team, you can try and make fights happen when the CD is *almost* up. E.g. you have 5-10 seconds on the BVeil CD, and your Malphite ults in. Then, when you get dived/an AP tries to unload on you, your BVeil comes up the moment when they need to cast an important spell on you--which suddenly creates the awkward scenario where they have to break a BVeil when they're already committed. When you get dived, the BVeil CD JUST comes up. An observer might chalk this up to luck that "BVeil happened to come up in time", but in a scenario where your team can control when fights start, you can get much more value out of the BVeil passive in making sure it doesn't get poked down. It's not luck, it's keeping track of the BVeil CD. You can't do this anymore. The BVeil CD resets when you take champ damage, meaning that you can no longer control BVeil's CD for it to come up at the right time like this. It's better against poke in general though. I buy it when there's an AP Nidalee launching spears every few seconds. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Lol I just remembered I have Onionbagel on my flist because of an old IvyLoL team. I hope you guys see some good tourney time! | ||
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