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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:24 IMoperator wrote: Why the Ez ult nerf? It wasn't *that* good to begin with. I think they've nerfed just about everything else on Ez and he's still doing well in pro games. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I would make the argument that if a teamate rages at a lack of buffs then they'd probably rage over anything that doesn't go their way in the game to begin with and they'd soon be complaining about a lack of MIAs, ganks, or pulled lanes anyway (there are exceptions obviously since some champs genuinely NEED blue or else they're in a terrible spot). Your argument that "some players just aren't carryable" seems odd to make since, if they're so bad they can't be carried, I kind of doubt playing a more support-style jungler and relying on them to carry would be successful if they're that bad. edit: About the EZ ult nerf - the thing I've always wanted is for it to actually be interruptable during its animation. Well the jungle is the easiest place to put a worthless tank in the first place. If you put one in a lane most likely they will get destroyed. Second damage scales better then defenses, so you should put the highest farm lanes as damage also. The way the game is built, 4th position should just be the tank. You can get away with things by putting a champion as the jungler that you couldn't get away with as a laner. I'm also not talking about a player raging. The psychological effect of your opponent getting buff experience and a buff is large. It might even be larger then the actually difference in the lane. The things that go into why you give buffs away, why certain champions are played in the jungle are much larger then just if you want to do damage and carry. It's all about min maxing (and though these things technically don't apply to solo queue, you should practice how you play). edit: also no longer a queen, now I'm a mutalisk. My life is complete. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:20 Alzadar wrote: Is there anywhere I can find aggregated tournament statistics? Stuff like Leaguepedia has stats for individual tournaments but doesn't seem to have any way of seeing stats for multiple tournaments simultaneously. I'm not aware of such a place. Picks vary so much on a tournament by tournament basis that looking at them at an aggregate doesn't really prove much. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:45 onlywonderboy wrote: I'm not aware of such a place. Picks vary so much on a tournament by tournament basis that looking at them at an aggregate doesn't really prove much. Ideally such a system would allow you to sort the data by time period / patch. I think the information provided would be very relevant and revealing. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:57 Alzadar wrote: Ideally such a system would allow you to sort the data by time period / patch. I think the information provided would be very relevant and revealing. Yeah, I guess it would be interesting to see when certain champs were dominate but overall it wouldn't be that informative. Edit: Just because the current state of the game is so dependent on the current patch. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 21 2013 16:21 Promises wrote: Did.... did Viktor just get a small nerf? it looks like a buff or simply just a tooltip change. The base shield values listed are 40% of the damage dealt, which is basically the amount the skill shields for prior to the PBE change. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote: I would make the argument that if a teamate rages at a lack of buffs then they'd probably rage over anything that doesn't go their way in the game to begin with and they'd soon be complaining about a lack of MIAs, ganks, or pulled lanes anyway (there are exceptions obviously since some champs genuinely NEED blue or else they're in a terrible spot). Your argument that "some players just aren't carryable" seems odd to make since, if they're so bad they can't be carried, I kind of doubt playing a more support-style jungler and relying on them to carry would be successful if they're that bad. edit: About the EZ ult nerf - the thing I've always wanted is for it to actually be interruptable during its animation. When I play a blue dependent mid like Lux(pure damage build) or Anivia, if the jungler takes the 2nd blue and they can use it well (hec/mumu/olaf), I'm ok with that, but when they take every single blue it gets really annoying. They are crippling their mid for a smallish advantage. | ||
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
Anyway the new skins look really sweet, I really want to get the corki skin but it looks kinda like a rip off of lion dance kog.... | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 21 2013 17:15 fishinguy wrote: Looking at the proposed Ez nerfs I have to wonder, was Ezreal really trash tier before PFE came out? Anyway the new skins look really sweet, I really want to get the corki skin but it looks kinda like a rip off of lion dance kog.... Different champs different skins, fireworks are cool on everyone lol. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On January 21 2013 10:15 kongoline wrote: "Plate of the Warmage +30 Armor +25 Ability Power UNIQUE Passive: Killing a unit grants 0.5 bonus Armor and Ability Power. This bonus stacks up to 30 times." rofl rip garen,riven,renek top Helloooooooooo rumble top. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On January 21 2013 16:45 Ryuu314 wrote: it looks like a buff or simply just a tooltip change. The base shield values listed are 40% of the damage dealt, which is basically the amount the skill shields for prior to the PBE change. Except now the shield you get isn't reduced by the enemy's MR? | ||
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JALbert
United States484 Posts
On January 21 2013 17:15 fishinguy wrote: Looking at the proposed Ez nerfs I have to wonder, was Ezreal really trash tier before PFE came out? Anyway the new skins look really sweet, I really want to get the corki skin but it looks kinda like a rip off of lion dance kog.... No, he was slept on as fuck. It's really hard to change general opinions on things because top players aren't necessarily good theorycrafters, and nobody will do something until top teams/players do it. Hell, it took a long time for people to realize how good ASpeed slows are. Also Eve was considered trash tier before Dustfox/Sorakabot made it to number 1 on EU spamming Revive/Smite eve. It took ages for Rincent masteries to be figured out and abused in S2. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On January 21 2013 18:05 sylverfyre wrote: Except now the shield you get isn't reduced by the enemy's MR? it never was | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
nm found em duh :o | ||
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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On January 21 2013 14:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote: edit: About the EZ ult nerf - the thing I've always wanted is for it to actually be interruptable during its animation. It honestly kind of blows my mind that they don't just straight up do this. Every other part of ez is not problematic except for his guaranteed-escape-no-matter-what button afaik. | ||
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