I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

January 04 2013 00:31 GMT

#5343

On January 04 2013 09:23 spellsy wrote:
I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg

I might be mentally retarded, but how to read list?

are reds counters? and green is synergy?

swim224

Botswana368 Posts

January 04 2013 00:32 GMT

#5344

On January 04 2013 09:31 wei2coolman wrote:

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I might be mentally retarded, but how to read list?

are reds counters? and green is synergy?

Open the first link, he has the explanation there.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

January 04 2013 00:32 GMT

#5345

I like Nami with Twitch, but I can't say whether she's necessarily better than Leona/Lulu/Fiddle. It's just neat that her E is applied to all enemies hit by his ult while only consuming one charge per shot.

Lylat

France8575 Posts

January 04 2013 00:33 GMT

#5346

On January 04 2013 09:31 wei2coolman wrote:

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I might be mentally retarded, but how to read list?

are reds counters? and green is synergy?

Yup

spellsy

United States418 Posts

January 04 2013 00:37 GMT

#5347

ya i included 1st list cause i wasnt sure everyone would know how to read

.. it explains there

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

January 04 2013 00:42 GMT

#5348

On January 04 2013 09:37 spellsy wrote:
ya i included 1st list cause i wasnt sure everyone would know how to read

.. it explains there

Oh alright, thanks.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 04 2013 00:44 GMT

#5349

You put Nami having synergy with everyone. o_o
Not yelling at you for doing it, I'm just curious about your reasoning.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

January 04 2013 00:49 GMT

#5350

Sivir still doesn't have synergy with Soraka on that thing.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

January 04 2013 00:52 GMT

#5351

Still think Zyra is the best support for Varus

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

January 04 2013 00:57 GMT

#5352

Man no Zyra OR Soraka for Varus. I don't understand how Varus-Nunu is good.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

January 04 2013 01:03 GMT

#5353

On January 04 2013 09:57 Ketara wrote:
Man no Zyra OR Soraka for Varus. I don't understand how Varus-Nunu is good.

I could see why, bb for fast blight stacks, and snow ball for easy q hit. Also Varus lacks escape, so BB is purty good for running away too.

schmutttt

Australia3856 Posts

January 04 2013 01:08 GMT

#5354

Wings is probably the worst stream I have watched in so long.

He isn't funny at all, he qqs a lot and I hate his voice.

24k viewers zzzz

seRapH

United States9808 Posts

January 04 2013 01:10 GMT

#5355

On January 04 2013 10:03 wei2coolman wrote:

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I could see why, bb for fast blight stacks, and snow ball for easy q hit. Also Varus lacks escape, so BB is purty good for running away too.

Nunu/varus is pretty good. Varus loves any extra MS, and it makes it really easy to land double or triple blighted E's. Nobody charges q tho so there's no synergy with that skill

Shikyo

Finland33997 Posts

January 04 2013 01:19 GMT

#5356

Yeah Vi's main problems seem to be that Q is useless for anything but charging in like a brush or Q->flash->Qing(but when people get more used to Vi they can flash dodge that on reaction). I mean a dude ganked me by flashing in front of me while I was charging it, really?

Another issue is that her E is bugged so that it takes even longer than Trundle for her to attack again after using E. This means that aspd is basically useless on her, and it also means that in some cases E isn't even worth using at all in a 1v1 except as a finisher or if you're planning on either walking or using Q or R right after.

Passive cooldown also could be lower in the lower levels. I don't like how Malphite's is just way better in every way.

Don't even need all those changes but some of them would definitely help. Even if there were no balance issues she definitely has some usability problems mainly caused by E and Q.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

January 04 2013 01:23 GMT

#5357

On January 04 2013 10:08 schmutttt wrote:
Wings is probably the worst stream I have watched in so long.

He isn't funny at all, he qqs a lot and I hate his voice.

24k viewers zzzz

Stop hating what I like!
jk; sometimes he's annoying. but i find him pretty entertaining for the most part. I like how he goes HAM at the most random time, and then dies to jungler and says "he's camping me".

spellsy

United States418 Posts

January 04 2013 01:26 GMT

#5358

On January 04 2013 10:10 seRapH wrote:

Show nested quote +

Nunu/varus is pretty good. Varus loves any extra MS, and it makes it really easy to land double or triple blighted E's. Nobody charges q tho so there's no synergy with that skill

yea i agree especially with the ms part - i feel like varus with extra ms is sooooo good.. like his AA is so smooth so with bb its just mmm rolls out with his attack move and e..

only problem with that lane tho is it is very fragile to like a lulu or something real tough

Louuster

Canada2869 Posts

January 04 2013 01:26 GMT

#5359

Hm so Voyboy is now building sunfire first on every champion he plays today in scrims?

Lee sin, kat and elise so far

ketchup

14521 Posts

January 04 2013 01:27 GMT

#5360

To make it easier for the eye to differentiate the top portion. You might want to think about making the "highlight" champion portrait slightly bigger than the rest. It helps if someone wants to take a quick look at it, and realized the top portion is supposed to be viewed up and down. The bottom portion is okay, as the orientation is easy to read, but the top portion doesn't show this as easily.