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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
January 04 2013 00:18 GMT
#5341
On January 04 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:52 kainzero wrote:
On January 04 2013 07:55 Seuss wrote:
Seriously speaking, I don't think throwing out a hypothetical CC-combo is sufficient for claiming "I called it". The reasons behind a champion assuming a role/becoming viable are more complicated than that. I generally try to avoid making such claims unless I've consistently and continuously asserted it, complete with a persistent rationale for why it's a good idea.

it's funny, things are only "viable" when a pro team runs it in a tournament.

pre-Eve nerf, with old DFG and the ratio on her ult, when she was broken as hell... people on my team dodged games because I wanted to play her mid and thought I was trolling.

someone even dodged because i wanted to play Elise mid nowadays.

Nunu top and Viktor mid still earn me some dodges.

no one dodges when i play top nunu, maybe it's cuz they check my stats :s

they still are skeptical about it though
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
January 04 2013 00:23 GMT
#5342
I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2013 00:31 GMT
#5343
On January 04 2013 09:23 spellsy wrote:
I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg

I might be mentally retarded, but how to read list?

are reds counters? and green is synergy?
liftlift > tsm
swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
January 04 2013 00:32 GMT
#5344
On January 04 2013 09:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 09:23 spellsy wrote:
I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg

I might be mentally retarded, but how to read list?

are reds counters? and green is synergy?

Open the first link, he has the explanation there.
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 04 2013 00:32 GMT
#5345
I like Nami with Twitch, but I can't say whether she's necessarily better than Leona/Lulu/Fiddle. It's just neat that her E is applied to all enemies hit by his ult while only consuming one charge per shot.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
January 04 2013 00:33 GMT
#5346
On January 04 2013 09:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 09:23 spellsy wrote:
I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg

I might be mentally retarded, but how to read list?

are reds counters? and green is synergy?

Yup
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
January 04 2013 00:37 GMT
#5347
ya i included 1st list cause i wasnt sure everyone would know how to read .. it explains there
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2013 00:42 GMT
#5348
On January 04 2013 09:37 spellsy wrote:
ya i included 1st list cause i wasnt sure everyone would know how to read .. it explains there

Oh alright, thanks.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 00:45:20
January 04 2013 00:44 GMT
#5349
You put Nami having synergy with everyone. o_o
Not yelling at you for doing it, I'm just curious about your reasoning.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
January 04 2013 00:49 GMT
#5350
Sivir still doesn't have synergy with Soraka on that thing.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 04 2013 00:52 GMT
#5351
Still think Zyra is the best support for Varus
Carrilord has arrived.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 00:58:01
January 04 2013 00:57 GMT
#5352
Man no Zyra OR Soraka for Varus. I don't understand how Varus-Nunu is good.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2013 01:03 GMT
#5353
On January 04 2013 09:57 Ketara wrote:
Man no Zyra OR Soraka for Varus. I don't understand how Varus-Nunu is good.

I could see why, bb for fast blight stacks, and snow ball for easy q hit. Also Varus lacks escape, so BB is purty good for running away too.
liftlift > tsm
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 04 2013 01:08 GMT
#5354
Wings is probably the worst stream I have watched in so long.

He isn't funny at all, he qqs a lot and I hate his voice.

24k viewers zzzz
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
January 04 2013 01:10 GMT
#5355
On January 04 2013 10:03 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 09:57 Ketara wrote:
Man no Zyra OR Soraka for Varus. I don't understand how Varus-Nunu is good.

I could see why, bb for fast blight stacks, and snow ball for easy q hit. Also Varus lacks escape, so BB is purty good for running away too.

Nunu/varus is pretty good. Varus loves any extra MS, and it makes it really easy to land double or triple blighted E's. Nobody charges q tho so there's no synergy with that skill
boomer hands
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 04 2013 01:19 GMT
#5356
Yeah Vi's main problems seem to be that Q is useless for anything but charging in like a brush or Q->flash->Qing(but when people get more used to Vi they can flash dodge that on reaction). I mean a dude ganked me by flashing in front of me while I was charging it, really?

Another issue is that her E is bugged so that it takes even longer than Trundle for her to attack again after using E. This means that aspd is basically useless on her, and it also means that in some cases E isn't even worth using at all in a 1v1 except as a finisher or if you're planning on either walking or using Q or R right after.

Passive cooldown also could be lower in the lower levels. I don't like how Malphite's is just way better in every way.

Don't even need all those changes but some of them would definitely help. Even if there were no balance issues she definitely has some usability problems mainly caused by E and Q.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2013 01:23 GMT
#5357
On January 04 2013 10:08 schmutttt wrote:
Wings is probably the worst stream I have watched in so long.

He isn't funny at all, he qqs a lot and I hate his voice.

24k viewers zzzz

Stop hating what I like!
jk; sometimes he's annoying. but i find him pretty entertaining for the most part. I like how he goes HAM at the most random time, and then dies to jungler and says "he's camping me".
liftlift > tsm
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
January 04 2013 01:26 GMT
#5358
On January 04 2013 10:10 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:03 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 04 2013 09:57 Ketara wrote:
Man no Zyra OR Soraka for Varus. I don't understand how Varus-Nunu is good.

I could see why, bb for fast blight stacks, and snow ball for easy q hit. Also Varus lacks escape, so BB is purty good for running away too.

Nunu/varus is pretty good. Varus loves any extra MS, and it makes it really easy to land double or triple blighted E's. Nobody charges q tho so there's no synergy with that skill

yea i agree especially with the ms part - i feel like varus with extra ms is sooooo good.. like his AA is so smooth so with bb its just mmm rolls out with his attack move and e..

only problem with that lane tho is it is very fragile to like a lulu or something real tough
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
January 04 2013 01:26 GMT
#5359
Hm so Voyboy is now building sunfire first on every champion he plays today in scrims?

Lee sin, kat and elise so far
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
January 04 2013 01:27 GMT
#5360
On January 04 2013 09:23 spellsy wrote:
I made a 1st draft updated pick list (http://imgur.com/boqQE this was old one), what do you guys think about it ? anything need to be changed (pick-wise) before it gets polished.

http://i.imgur.com/rP8Zr.jpg


To make it easier for the eye to differentiate the top portion. You might want to think about making the "highlight" champion portrait slightly bigger than the rest. It helps if someone wants to take a quick look at it, and realized the top portion is supposed to be viewed up and down. The bottom portion is okay, as the orientation is easy to read, but the top portion doesn't show this as easily.
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