• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:46
CEST 21:46
KST 04:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play1Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)63ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo31Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
Mizenhauer's Douyu Cup Preview ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Possible bug in the new patch?
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) INu's Battles#17 <BO.9> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BW General Discussion [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST CSLAN 4 is Coming!
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7232 users

[Patch 1.0.0.153: Preseason Balance Update 1] GD - Page 267

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 265 266 267 268 269 451 Next
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
January 03 2013 23:07 GMT
#5321
vi needs (and will be getting) qol buffs, she has a bunch of issues that gimp her, namely how clunky her q is
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 03 2013 23:12 GMT
#5322
On January 04 2013 08:07 101toss wrote:
vi needs (and will be getting) qol buffs, she has a bunch of issues that gimp her, namely how clunky her q is


Which is why I dont understand why they were raving about the beta Vi. It would be like raving about Jayce before his AA change.
Freeeeeeedom
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 23:14:42
January 03 2013 23:13 GMT
#5323
On January 04 2013 08:06 Slusher wrote:
does anyone have a timeframe when the games are on fri/sat?


Zenon will apparently start streaming (but not casting) at 10AM Dublin time, which should be 10:00 GMT (+00:00) if you have your TL timezone set.

If Soniv and Wave are slacking when I get home from work I'll stream and cast if there's anything left.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 03 2013 23:13 GMT
#5324
On January 04 2013 08:07 101toss wrote:
vi needs (and will be getting) qol buffs, she has a bunch of issues that gimp her, namely how clunky her q is

Hopefully it's not another Rengar situation where a small set of QoL buffs ends up tipping the OP scales.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 23:18:48
January 03 2013 23:14 GMT
#5325
Apparently TF's stacked deck is charged by Hurricane bolts. Cards, cards everywhere!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-03 23:16:27
January 03 2013 23:15 GMT
#5326
On January 04 2013 08:13 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:06 Slusher wrote:
does anyone have a timeframe when the games are on fri/sat?


Zenon will apparently start streaming (but not casting) at 10AM Dublin time, which should be 10:00 GMT (+00:00) if you have your TL timezone set.

If Soniv and Wave are slacking when I get home from work I'll stream and cast if there's anything left.

Alright, looking for someone who can stream+co-cast with me at that time. PM me or post here pretty please, I would really like to do this one. OH WAIT we could do this together Monty. But if we do that I want to call you Montezuma because that's what "Monty" is short for. :3
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 03 2013 23:15 GMT
#5327
Rengar didn't need the QoL. Vi, well... if she gets rooted while charging her Q, or silenced, or... anything but a slow, really, the Q gets cancelled, put on cooldown, and no mana refunded. Imagine if Irelia's Q went on cd every time a cc it her, even if she isn't in the process of using it. That's more or less the same effect on your mobility.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9217 Posts
January 03 2013 23:17 GMT
#5328
On January 04 2013 08:06 Slusher wrote:
does anyone have a timeframe when the games are on fri/sat?

EU starts at 10:00 GMT (+00:00) on both days, no confirmation for NA start times yet.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 03 2013 23:19 GMT
#5329
On January 04 2013 08:13 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:06 Slusher wrote:
does anyone have a timeframe when the games are on fri/sat?


Zenon will apparently start streaming (but not casting) at 10AM Dublin time, which should be 10:00 GMT (+00:00) if you have your TL timezone set.

If Soniv and Wave are slacking when I get home from work I'll stream and cast if there's anything left.


Lol, the problem isn't "slacking", it's more that these are my last two days home before I go back to school, and Wave has ShadowOfWave to take care of, so we have no idea how/if our schedules will coincide =P
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 03 2013 23:23 GMT
#5330
On January 04 2013 08:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:13 Seuss wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:06 Slusher wrote:
does anyone have a timeframe when the games are on fri/sat?


Zenon will apparently start streaming (but not casting) at 10AM Dublin time, which should be 10:00 GMT (+00:00) if you have your TL timezone set.

If Soniv and Wave are slacking when I get home from work I'll stream and cast if there's anything left.


Lol, the problem isn't "slacking", it's more that these are my last two days home before I go back to school, and Wave has ShadowOfWave to take care of, so we have no idea how/if our schedules will coincide =P


I might do some of the NA games as I am off sat and only work in the very early morning tomorrow.
Carrilord has arrived.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 03 2013 23:34 GMT
#5331
On January 04 2013 08:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:13 Seuss wrote:
On January 04 2013 08:06 Slusher wrote:
does anyone have a timeframe when the games are on fri/sat?


Zenon will apparently start streaming (but not casting) at 10AM Dublin time, which should be 10:00 GMT (+00:00) if you have your TL timezone set.

If Soniv and Wave are slacking when I get home from work I'll stream and cast if there's anything left.


Lol, the problem isn't "slacking", it's more that these are my last two days home before I go back to school, and Wave has ShadowOfWave to take care of, so we have no idea how/if our schedules will coincide =P


Slackers.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 03 2013 23:40 GMT
#5332
So what's everyone's take on Mistake leaving TPA to become the captain of their sister team Taipei Snipers? There were rumors a couple days ago, but now there's an offical website with their full roster.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
January 03 2013 23:48 GMT
#5333
Speaking of Vi, has anyone else ran into a bug with her Q where if you are smart-casting it and try to use it really fast (to get a proc on W or for a quick knockback) it will sometimes get stuck charging? Happened to me a few times so far and it really sucks to be unable to do anything but wait for the Q to time out.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 03 2013 23:49 GMT
#5334
On January 04 2013 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
So what's everyone's take on Mistake leaving TPA to become the captain of their sister team Taipei Snipers? There were rumors a couple days ago, but now there's an offical website with their full roster.

I'm interested in seeing what will come of it. I found mistake's overall support play to be a bit lackluster, but at the same time, I found that their coordination and overall map movement in the mid/late game to be absolutely stellar. Given that mistake was the shot-caller for tpa, i'd say the majority of that can be attributed to mistake's presence on the team.

On a slightly unrelated note, for some reason I had it in my head that tps was for taipei squids. No clue where that came from, lol.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
January 03 2013 23:52 GMT
#5335
On January 04 2013 07:55 Seuss wrote:
Seriously speaking, I don't think throwing out a hypothetical CC-combo is sufficient for claiming "I called it". The reasons behind a champion assuming a role/becoming viable are more complicated than that. I generally try to avoid making such claims unless I've consistently and continuously asserted it, complete with a persistent rationale for why it's a good idea.

it's funny, things are only "viable" when a pro team runs it in a tournament.

pre-Eve nerf, with old DFG and the ratio on her ult, when she was broken as hell... people on my team dodged games because I wanted to play her mid and thought I was trolling.

someone even dodged because i wanted to play Elise mid nowadays.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
January 03 2013 23:58 GMT
#5336
On January 04 2013 08:49 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
So what's everyone's take on Mistake leaving TPA to become the captain of their sister team Taipei Snipers? There were rumors a couple days ago, but now there's an offical website with their full roster.

I'm interested in seeing what will come of it. I found mistake's overall support play to be a bit lackluster, but at the same time, I found that their coordination and overall map movement in the mid/late game to be absolutely stellar. Given that mistake was the shot-caller for tpa, i'd say the majority of that can be attributed to mistake's presence on the team.

On a slightly unrelated note, for some reason I had it in my head that tps was for taipei squids. No clue where that came from, lol.

TPS already look like a strong contender for first place in any tournament they attend, depending on how many Korean teams there are. After a few dozen scrim against TPA I doubt they're going to get dropped easily by anyone.
boomer hands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 04 2013 00:01 GMT
#5337
On January 04 2013 08:49 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
So what's everyone's take on Mistake leaving TPA to become the captain of their sister team Taipei Snipers? There were rumors a couple days ago, but now there's an offical website with their full roster.

I'm interested in seeing what will come of it. I found mistake's overall support play to be a bit lackluster, but at the same time, I found that their coordination and overall map movement in the mid/late game to be absolutely stellar. Given that mistake was the shot-caller for tpa, i'd say the majority of that can be attributed to mistake's presence on the team.

On a slightly unrelated note, for some reason I had it in my head that tps was for taipei squids. No clue where that came from, lol.

There was the guy at the World Championship who had a sign where he kept replacing one word of a team name with "squid" (Taipei Squid, Team SoloSquid, ect). When people saw the abbreviation was TPS (my initials btw so I approve) the Taipei Squid joke was brought up again.

RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9217 Posts
January 04 2013 00:07 GMT
#5338
Hah, just played a 4v5 match where the enemy Karthus started eventually one-shotting our level 1 teammate in fountain.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 04 2013 00:09 GMT
#5339
On January 04 2013 08:52 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 07:55 Seuss wrote:
Seriously speaking, I don't think throwing out a hypothetical CC-combo is sufficient for claiming "I called it". The reasons behind a champion assuming a role/becoming viable are more complicated than that. I generally try to avoid making such claims unless I've consistently and continuously asserted it, complete with a persistent rationale for why it's a good idea.

it's funny, things are only "viable" when a pro team runs it in a tournament.

pre-Eve nerf, with old DFG and the ratio on her ult, when she was broken as hell... people on my team dodged games because I wanted to play her mid and thought I was trolling.

someone even dodged because i wanted to play Elise mid nowadays.

Nunu top and Viktor mid still earn me some dodges.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
January 04 2013 00:15 GMT
#5340
On January 04 2013 09:09 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 08:52 kainzero wrote:
On January 04 2013 07:55 Seuss wrote:
Seriously speaking, I don't think throwing out a hypothetical CC-combo is sufficient for claiming "I called it". The reasons behind a champion assuming a role/becoming viable are more complicated than that. I generally try to avoid making such claims unless I've consistently and continuously asserted it, complete with a persistent rationale for why it's a good idea.

it's funny, things are only "viable" when a pro team runs it in a tournament.

pre-Eve nerf, with old DFG and the ratio on her ult, when she was broken as hell... people on my team dodged games because I wanted to play her mid and thought I was trolling.

someone even dodged because i wanted to play Elise mid nowadays.

Nunu top and Viktor mid still earn me some dodges.

I had to take ap Yi instead of TF, because they wanted to dodge.
But by the far the worst was, when someone told me to not play WW, because I built an Aegis on him in another game.
"My spoon is too big."
Prev 1 265 266 267 268 269 451 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
King of the Hill #254
EmpressLilyy86
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 1016
mouzStarbuck 70
BRAT_OK 51
MindelVK 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15210
Calm 2868
Mini 630
EffOrt 530
Jaedong 268
Shuttle 228
BeSt 112
Dewaltoss 95
ggaemo 95
firebathero 88
[ Show more ]
actioN 52
Sea.KH 46
scan(afreeca) 36
HiyA 12
Purpose 8
Dota 2
syndereN216
Counter-Strike
ScreaM4100
byalli965
Other Games
FrodaN885
Beastyqt868
ceh9602
shahzam411
ArmadaUGS163
Mew2King89
Trikslyr50
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 539
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 92
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki34
• FirePhoenix11
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade885
Other Games
• imaqtpie873
• Shiphtur277
Upcoming Events
Bombastic Starleague
14m
Douyu Cup 2020
9h 14m
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Big Brain Bouts
20h 14m
Jumy vs eGGz
Harstem vs sebesdes
TriGGeR vs HeRoMaRinE
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 9h
Maestros of the Game
1d 16h
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 18h
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
Online Event
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Bombastic Starleague
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
OSC
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-24
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
Douyu Cup 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.