EPTIn all seriousness I really like it on her, and combined with Randuins/her re-positioning you can disrupt the entire team.
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In all seriousness I really like it on her, and combined with Randuins/her re-positioning you can disrupt the entire team. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 03 2013 03:44 koreasilver wrote: XJ9 just plays her all balls to the walls AD. Like brut -> BT -> BC. From how he plays, he doesn't really seem to have much problem with sticking when he ganks with R and Q, but I imagine that playing her in lane would be a lot different. IDK, I still haven't actually tried playing her and I don't see her often at all in my games. The only streamer I see that plays her very often is XJ9. XJ9 is some new one who came after I quit for some months I guess, does he have a stream archive / VODs or something? If you jungle do you go wriggles or what, anything more specific? After BT BC what? Before the nerf I could have just stacked BCs T_T | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
you have something like R - auto attack - E - Q - auto attack - E - botrk active and apply beatdowns when R is on cooldown, using Q to gap close and then botrk active also works. she also seems decent if built as a tank. Q and R are good enough for peel, you have a shield that scales off of health, and W does good base damage. | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
How you should build (in lane) really depends on your team/opponents IMO. She's poor to iniate with so you should dive the biggest carry after someone else iniates no matter your build. I rather dislike how much she gets destroyed by all-in bruisers though. Jax, Riven, Garen just wipe the floor with her. But if you survive laning decently she's very fun to play, and her damage is pretty high even if you build tanky. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 03 2013 03:24 Shikyo wrote: So playing as Vi and I am a bit confused about how she should be built. Black Cleaver is what everyone recommends but is it really that good after the nerfs? It seems like I never even get to max the stacks on anyone. Ravenous Hydra seems amazing on her early but takes super long to build. Also need a Phage item... But with these the survivability becomes an issue. I really am kind of confused. I feel like dropping Black Cleaver because I seriously never get to max the stacks against anyone but that can't be the right thing to do...? Her scaling isn't huge so AD shouldn't be a priority, and ArPen benefits her mostly on her W since her base damage aren't stellar either (charged Q is good but you won't always get to charge it fully). W scales well with AS (think Jax: his passive has to be stacked so flat AS like wit's gives him a stronger build-up than rageblade since he'll reach max stacks way earlier) so wit's is a good item on her. Personal preferences, I like to build her tanky so I can just initiate with my ult (or QR if I need to), get out of the fight if the focus is too strong, then go back in (Q's shortish cd is pretty good for that), so I wouldn't complete wriggles (doesn't do much for your clear speed, I dunno if madred's really better than spirit stone or simply machete either, I just like the bit of early armor) and get something like phage/locket early on. I feel like she really needs some long sword-based item early on or her burst falls past level 7 or so. I'd build along boots, mallet, wit's, locket, randuin's but that's because I have a hard-on for randuin's and locket's simply OP currently. Tried bulwark but I felt like I was dumping too much stats in defense and so would lack damage (you've got even less with phage+aegis than a Noc who would straight-up rush aegis). On January 03 2013 03:58 Serelitz wrote: BC is pretty core on Vi because her E applies on-hit IIRC. So with BC you can apply its' stacks to multiple people in teamfights. BC isn't an on-hit but is applied by all sources of physical damage. Her Q and R apply hit to one to several targets (creeps on the way for Q, stuff standing in the way for R) and E applies it in AoE. On January 03 2013 03:44 koreasilver wrote: XJ9 just plays her all balls to the walls AD. Like brut -> BT -> BC. From how he plays, he doesn't really seem to have much problem with sticking when he ganks with R and Q, but I imagine that playing her in lane would be a lot different. IDK, I still haven't actually tried playing her and I don't see her often at all in my games. The only streamer I see that plays her very often is XJ9. I don't think Xj9 should be followed because guy keeps buffs to himself, taxes a lot and pretty often get fed, so he gets a lot more gold than your average game. His game flow and game sense are really good but I wouldn't follow what he builds whenever that requires gold. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3304 Posts
On January 03 2013 03:58 Serelitz wrote: BC is pretty core on Vi because her E applies on-hit IIRC. So with BC you can apply its' stacks to multiple people in teamfights. How you should build (in lane) really depends on your team/opponents IMO. She's poor to iniate with so you should dive the biggest carry after someone else iniates no matter your build. I rather dislike how much she gets destroyed by all-in bruisers though. Jax, Riven, Garen just wipe the floor with her. But if you survive laning decently she's very fun to play, and her damage is pretty high even if you build tanky. Her e only applys on hits on the main target. BC applys on physical dmg and e does physical dmg, not because it procs on hits. Q and R also apply one BC stack to everyone dmged | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On January 03 2013 04:14 Roffles wrote: The only problem with XJ9 is his stream resolution. 4:3 makes me T_T hey man if you have a 4:3 and it's still in perfect condition it's hard to justify also about Wickd's Zed (I was asleep during those posts) it sounds brilliant, getting the slow from cutlass would allow you to walk up before you split yourself so you can get the slow AND energy regen from E, I'm going to start building it too I think. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On January 03 2013 02:41 Seuss wrote: Last I checked own3d didn't have a mobile app. Twitch.tv does, and it's a fairly good one (at least when it comes to popular streams/tournaments). The app is wonderful. Probably one of the most stable and robust Android apps out there. Take youtube for example: Try stopping/resuming even on Wifi- it will sometimes crap out even on current devices. Twitch app does exactly what you'd expect without fail. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 03 2013 03:28 Slaughter wrote: Interesting, for me its the opposite as Twitch is the laggy one for me lol. And this is why Riot put the Worlds on Both. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On January 03 2013 03:53 Shikyo wrote: XJ9 is some new one who came after I quit for some months I guess, does he have a stream archive / VODs or something? If you jungle do you go wriggles or what, anything more specific? After BT BC what? Before the nerf I could have just stacked BCs T_T Yeah he has a stream and he usually streams late into the night. So he opens with machete pots, then just sits on the machete and never upgrades it into anything. Then usually boots afterwards, then brutalizer, then vamp/bf -> BT. After BT and BC he builds LW or GA, usually. But sometimes when he has a slot and not enough money for GA he will just build aegis, but this is pretty uncommon. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On January 03 2013 04:14 Roffles wrote: The only problem with XJ9 is his stream resolution. 4:3 makes me T_T He's getting a new monitor. Think he needs a little more donation money. Btw I was watching his jungle Zed last night and it's redic how well he fits his playstyle. Average 200 cs by 23 minutes and at least 10 kills by the end of the game. He just runs around and shoves with E. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
http://www.gamezone.com/products/league-of-legends/news/league-of-legends-developer-working-on-secret-project-425 | ||
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On January 03 2013 05:14 Leonite7 wrote: New client? + Show Spoiler + | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
take every buff, tax every lane, give 0 fucks soloqueue cancer, here i come! | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On January 03 2013 05:28 SagaZ wrote: Really exited for the XJ9 wave take every buff, tax every lane, give 0 fucks soloqueue cancer, here i come! well you just described the easiest way to carry your team in soloq | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On January 03 2013 05:31 TheKefka wrote: well you just described the easiest way to carry your team in soloq Oh god and so it begins. | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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