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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 02 2013 20:39 GMT
#5001
On January 03 2013 05:14 Leonite7 wrote:
New client?


There is no chance in hell Riot is going to create a new client for LoL. They hired a jillion Flash/Air developers this year
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 02 2013 20:44 GMT
#5002
On January 03 2013 05:13 nojitosunrise wrote:
project425 incoming

http://www.gamezone.com/products/league-of-legends/news/league-of-legends-developer-working-on-secret-project-425


As much as I like dreaming, speculation based on domain names is pretty much bottom of the barrel.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 02 2013 20:49 GMT
#5003
honestly not that exited for a new Riot game, I like league a lot but their best ideas are things they've directly stolen from icefrog.
Carrilord has arrived.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#5004
Sort of a bummer the online qualifiers are not being streamed, would have loved to watch them T_T.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 02 2013 20:52 GMT
#5005
On January 03 2013 05:49 Slusher wrote:
honestly not that exited for a new Riot game, I like league a lot but their best ideas are things they've directly stolen from icefrog.

Not true. Their business model is their own.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 21:05:08
January 02 2013 21:04 GMT
#5006
On January 03 2013 05:49 Slusher wrote:
honestly not that exited for a new Riot game, I like league a lot but their best ideas are things they've directly stolen from icefrog.


Unless something is a blatant copy I don't mind the recycling of good ideas. Blizzard cut its teeth doing what other developers had already done, only slightly different/better. DotA 2 is literally DotA, just better looking and with hats. Sometimes you want your mind blown, and sometimes you just want established ideas to be invoked/evoked.

It's unfortunate, but because there are many soulless companies that will copy a new, innovative idea for the sake of being trendy the whole notion of reusing ideas tends to have a bad reputation, even though there's nothing inherently wrong with the practice. Just as with innovation, or anything else, it's understanding and execution which matter.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 02 2013 21:24 GMT
#5007
On January 03 2013 05:49 Slusher wrote:
honestly not that exited for a new Riot game, I like league a lot but their best ideas are things they've directly stolen from icefrog.


If it's fun I'll play it. I mean LoL is fun they'd likely try to make their next game fun too. As long as it isn't an MMO I'll at least try it.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 02 2013 21:26 GMT
#5008
LoL was most fun at the beginning, before the seasons took place. if they can recapture any of that previous magic it could be good, otherwise ill just stick to LoL.

I come in for the scraps
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 02 2013 21:29 GMT
#5009
As long as it's free I'll at least try it
A backwards poet writes inverse.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 02 2013 21:33 GMT
#5010
Warning - comparisons with DotA2 alert!
Even icefrog was building upon what others had started. One of the frustrating things I find about dota2 is the unwillingness to innovate upon what is already there at this point. I'm not a big fan of purity for purity's sake. (Important Note - this does not mean I agree with every innovation/change in gameplay that Riot made - merely that I appreciate the existence of the innovation.)

I am not in the least bit surprised that Riot is working on another game. As amazing for them as LoL is, they definitely now have the design, developer, and art talent available to them and the will to execute needed to branch out.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
January 02 2013 21:36 GMT
#5011
Could LoL be considered an MMO? Your summoner levels up by gaining experience, and uses the levels to allocate mastery points. The persistent world is the AIR client. You earn in-game currency that is spent to increase your summoning versatility, or for "runes" which work like equipment in that they boost your stats. When you play on Summoner's Rift, you're on an instance of a dungeon with 4 or 9 other people, depending if you're doing PvE or PvP.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 02 2013 21:37 GMT
#5012
yes, league is an instance-based MMO, no questions
it's just not marketed as such
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 02 2013 21:39 GMT
#5013
On January 03 2013 06:36 thenexusp wrote:
Could LoL be considered an MMO? Your summoner levels up by gaining experience, and uses the levels to allocate mastery points. The persistent world is the AIR client. You earn in-game currency that is spent to increase your summoning versatility, or for "runes" which work like equipment in that they boost your stats. When you play on Summoner's Rift, you're on an instance of a dungeon with 4 or 9 other people, depending if you're doing PvE or PvP.


if LoL could be considered an MMO it would certainly explain my "addiction" to it... ever since my terrible Guild Wars+Highschool years, I've sworn to never play a MMORP seriously ever again. Shit's to addicting, tried gw 2 but went back to LoL after 3 days, playing pvp way too fun than slaying mobs.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 02 2013 21:40 GMT
#5014
On January 03 2013 05:52 Diamond wrote:
Sort of a bummer the online qualifiers are not being streamed, would have loved to watch them T_T.


scarra says otherwise
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15totu/na_qualifiers_for_season_3_info_on_jan_4_to_6/c7ppczc
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 02 2013 21:45 GMT
#5015
On January 03 2013 06:33 sylverfyre wrote:
Warning - comparisons with DotA2 alert!
Even icefrog was building upon what others had started. One of the frustrating things I find about dota2 is the unwillingness to innovate upon what is already there at this point. I'm not a big fan of purity for purity's sake. (Important Note - this does not mean I agree with every innovation/change in gameplay that Riot made - merely that I appreciate the existence of the innovation.)

I am not in the least bit surprised that Riot is working on another game. As amazing for them as LoL is, they definitely now have the design, developer, and art talent available to them and the will to execute needed to branch out.

I don't agree that Ice has been doing things for purity's sake. Many traditional DotA players will use that as an argument to *justify* why Ice does something, but that rarely the only ostensible choice for Ice's design decisions. By and large, Icefrog actually did simplify and streamline DotA 2 where it actually made sense to do so. Anything he chose to leave "the old way" was either because there's actually a compelling reason not to do so, or because it would be such an enormous fundamental gameplay change as to ruin DotA 1/DotA 2 parity as far as balance is concerned.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 02 2013 21:46 GMT
#5016
On January 03 2013 06:39 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 06:36 thenexusp wrote:
Could LoL be considered an MMO? Your summoner levels up by gaining experience, and uses the levels to allocate mastery points. The persistent world is the AIR client. You earn in-game currency that is spent to increase your summoning versatility, or for "runes" which work like equipment in that they boost your stats. When you play on Summoner's Rift, you're on an instance of a dungeon with 4 or 9 other people, depending if you're doing PvE or PvP.


if LoL could be considered an MMO it would certainly explain my "addiction" to it... ever since my terrible Guild Wars+Highschool years, I've sworn to never play a MMORP seriously ever again. Shit's to addicting, tried gw 2 but went back to LoL after 3 days, playing pvp way too fun than slaying mobs.

LoL is good at keeping you invested and feel attached because of the sense of having built your account from the ground up. Def a factor.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#5017
I'm sure TA would disagree with purity of Dota 2
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#5018
On January 03 2013 06:39 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 06:36 thenexusp wrote:
Could LoL be considered an MMO? Your summoner levels up by gaining experience, and uses the levels to allocate mastery points. The persistent world is the AIR client. You earn in-game currency that is spent to increase your summoning versatility, or for "runes" which work like equipment in that they boost your stats. When you play on Summoner's Rift, you're on an instance of a dungeon with 4 or 9 other people, depending if you're doing PvE or PvP.


if LoL could be considered an MMO it would certainly explain my "addiction" to it... ever since my terrible Guild Wars+Highschool years, I've sworn to never play a MMORP seriously ever again. Shit's to addicting, tried gw 2 but went back to LoL after 3 days, playing pvp way too fun than slaying mobs.

Why didn't you just PvP in GW2 then? Not trying to be a dick, but doesn't the game offer that exact option for people who hate slaying mobs?

currently rooting for myself.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 02 2013 21:47 GMT
#5019
On January 03 2013 05:49 Slusher wrote:
honestly not that exited for a new Riot game, I like league a lot but their best ideas are things they've directly stolen from icefrog.



League of Legends and Dota 2 are two completely different games. Sure they can share some features but it doesn't differ from MMORPG's. Same genre, some stuff can be identical (like masteries, classes, races etc.) but it doesn't mean it's a direct copy.
hi
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-02 21:51:33
January 02 2013 21:50 GMT
#5020
On January 03 2013 06:47 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 06:39 AsnSensation wrote:
On January 03 2013 06:36 thenexusp wrote:
Could LoL be considered an MMO? Your summoner levels up by gaining experience, and uses the levels to allocate mastery points. The persistent world is the AIR client. You earn in-game currency that is spent to increase your summoning versatility, or for "runes" which work like equipment in that they boost your stats. When you play on Summoner's Rift, you're on an instance of a dungeon with 4 or 9 other people, depending if you're doing PvE or PvP.


if LoL could be considered an MMO it would certainly explain my "addiction" to it... ever since my terrible Guild Wars+Highschool years, I've sworn to never play a MMORP seriously ever again. Shit's to addicting, tried gw 2 but went back to LoL after 3 days, playing pvp way too fun than slaying mobs.

Why didn't you just PvP in GW2 then? Not trying to be a dick, but doesn't the game offer that exact option for people who hate slaying mobs?



not sure if you've been into guild wars, but gw2 PvP fucking sucks... spend many many hours in good old Guild Wars PvP though.
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