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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 30 2012 05:43 GMT
#4161
Smash would make her an AP carry, they wanna make her a support. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 30 2012 06:08 GMT
#4162
On December 30 2012 14:43 Alaric wrote:
Smash would make her an AP carry, they wanna make her a support. :<

Can't have it both ways unless it's an AP Carry that can Support, Supports than can AP Mid is anti-fun.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 30 2012 06:13 GMT
#4163
On December 30 2012 15:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 14:43 Alaric wrote:
Smash would make her an AP carry, they wanna make her a support. :<

Can't have it both ways unless it's an AP Carry that can Support, Supports than can AP Mid is anti-fun.


I don't get it. Do you just not know what that means? cuz that philosophy has nothing to do with whether they let a support be a decent ap mid
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 30 2012 06:22 GMT
#4164
On December 30 2012 15:13 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 15:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 30 2012 14:43 Alaric wrote:
Smash would make her an AP carry, they wanna make her a support. :<

Can't have it both ways unless it's an AP Carry that can Support, Supports than can AP Mid is anti-fun.


I don't get it. Do you just not know what that means? cuz that philosophy has nothing to do with whether they let a support be a decent ap mid

i think he's being facetious
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 06:29:20
December 30 2012 06:27 GMT
#4165
I was just kidding since Riot has a habit of nerfing AP ratios on Supports so they aren't as strong mid (Janna, Lulu, Soraka and even pre-nerfing Nami's ratios before release) but in the case of an AP Mid being played as a support, like Zyra, she hasn't got her AP ratios hit nearly as hard and still provides a ton of utility both mid and bot lane.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 30 2012 06:34 GMT
#4166
On December 30 2012 15:27 onlywonderboy wrote:
I was just kidding since Riot has a habit of nerfing AP ratios on Supports so they aren't as strong mid (Janna, Lulu, Soraka and even pre-nerfing Nami's ratios before release) but in the case of an AP Mid being played as a support, like Zyra, she hasn't got her AP ratios hit nearly as hard and still provides a ton of utility both mid and bot lane.

One day, you will see how retarded mid nunu is

It's possibly more retarded than top nunu
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 30 2012 06:35 GMT
#4167
On December 30 2012 15:34 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 15:27 onlywonderboy wrote:
I was just kidding since Riot has a habit of nerfing AP ratios on Supports so they aren't as strong mid (Janna, Lulu, Soraka and even pre-nerfing Nami's ratios before release) but in the case of an AP Mid being played as a support, like Zyra, she hasn't got her AP ratios hit nearly as hard and still provides a ton of utility both mid and bot lane.

One day, you will see how retarded mid nunu is

It's possibly more retarded than top nunu

I feel like is your life goal to have Nunu played in every position, any hope for ADC Nunu haha?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 30 2012 06:42 GMT
#4168
Nunu is stupidly fun against Karthus. And efficient.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 06:45:04
December 30 2012 06:44 GMT
#4169
On December 30 2012 09:10 wei2coolman wrote:
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On December 30 2012 09:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 30 2012 07:22 arb wrote:
On December 30 2012 05:29 onlywonderboy wrote:
Man, Ali could use a new model haha.

I dont wanna see 10ft tall skinny as fuck preteen Alistar.
His model is fine


when are they gonna normalize the champ heights? it's ridiculous how tall tf is

Soon (tm).

I dunno if tf is actually tall, or they're just trying to go for a "new" angle prespective with champions which give it the illusion of tallness; Vayne's dragon slayer skin is pretty tall looking too, now that I think about it.

I dunno its weird like, I dont think TFs model is much larger than say Graves, but yet TF gives me a tall lanky feel when looking at him, and Graves is a short stocky musclebound mother fucker.

quite strange.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-30 06:49:08
December 30 2012 06:45 GMT
#4170
oh wow missed three pages my badd
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 30 2012 06:48 GMT
#4171
There isn't actually much point for Riot to keep Guinsoo.

He was just a random kiddo who made the WC RoC version of the DotA map then stopped maintaining it. Riot only hired him to give some sort of legitimacy to LoL as a successor of DotA. This guy hasn't designed a new champion for years.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 30 2012 06:54 GMT
#4172
On December 30 2012 13:21 Sermokala wrote:
I'm on my phone right now but I read a rog article that bortk is only better then a bloodthirster when its the only damage item that you have. Ill be more then happy to back this up with finding it if you want. But my point is that it wouldn't be good to get it unless its the primary damage source. Otherwise visage hydra bt would be pretty good?

Wouldn't an early stinger into late zephyr be better for your shyv? It would help a bit with your clearing and dragon form as well. As freeing you up to buy sweet sweet ninja tabi.

botrk has break even points that were on the rog article
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/oldmaneyebrows/22272-the-bloodthirster-vs-blade-of-the-ruined-king

the problem is that you don't get the AD, so if you have AD based skills it's not as good
on Vi you're trading probably 200-300 damage less on your skills, pre-armor reduction, for the botrk active. on top of that, flash-Q, or R, is a good enough gap closer for you to use it and stick to them. especially if you have furor.
on Shyv I dunno.

i can imagine BT being better in other circumstances though.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 30 2012 06:55 GMT
#4173
On December 30 2012 15:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2012 15:34 101toss wrote:
On December 30 2012 15:27 onlywonderboy wrote:
I was just kidding since Riot has a habit of nerfing AP ratios on Supports so they aren't as strong mid (Janna, Lulu, Soraka and even pre-nerfing Nami's ratios before release) but in the case of an AP Mid being played as a support, like Zyra, she hasn't got her AP ratios hit nearly as hard and still provides a ton of utility both mid and bot lane.

One day, you will see how retarded mid nunu is

It's possibly more retarded than top nunu

I feel like is your life goal to have Nunu played in every position, any hope for ADC Nunu haha?

if only the yeti fists had more range

although you can play him like master yi if you count melee adc (ghostblade nunu is lulzy)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 30 2012 07:09 GMT
#4174
Guys i'm losing games at 1k elo but it's so fun. What do.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 30 2012 07:13 GMT
#4175
Win some from times to times so you stay at that Elo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
December 30 2012 07:29 GMT
#4176
On December 30 2012 11:38 BlackPaladin wrote:
lol I played with a noct that when I tried to give him a smiteless blue he smited it and went "don't need, i get gold for smite anyway"

xD
Thought that was hilarious


what a beast. I played with a guy this afternoon that smited on cooldown no matter what camp he was on claiming that the gold was worth the lack of buff control. logic op.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 30 2012 07:33 GMT
#4177
EVERYONE FUCKING INSTALL BROOD WAR RIGHT NOW

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE GRUDGE MATCHES GOING ON, I'M TIRED OF LOSING TO STXZ AND SWORDIA
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 30 2012 07:34 GMT
#4178
On December 30 2012 16:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
EVERYONE FUCKING INSTALL BROOD WAR RIGHT NOW

THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE GRUDGE MATCHES GOING ON, I'M TIRED OF LOSING TO STXZ AND SWORDIA

Dawg.
Grudgematches are my speciality.
Have you seen my location?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 30 2012 07:40 GMT
#4179
I'll own all you noobs in BW with my super secret 1 base reaver/DT/scout all in
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 30 2012 07:44 GMT
#4180
i never did finish my bo99 with Wizard before he got banned, although i was up like 20-1 so i claim victory
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
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