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Chiharu Harukaze
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On December 06 2012 09:23 MooMooMugi wrote: 252HP/252Def Bold Milotic Marvel Scale, with Rest, Sleep Talk, Surf, Icebeam/Toxic was so annoying rofl. The jerk levels of Milotic were rivalled perhaps only by Suispikes (aka Suicune and Spikes). | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
But Nami is not a tank.  | ||
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nanoscorp
United States1237 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Against champs, the fact that it does magic damage with no actual Magic Pen is going to hurt the item's usefulness as a real combat item. And it still shares Spark's problem of not having enough bounce range to farm smoothly, while actually charging up SLOWER than Spark in farming situations (Wiki says 10 charges per autoattack plus 1 more per 20 units moved--meaning that in lane farming situations you're going to take 5-8 autos to get a proc, as opposed to the 4 for Spark). | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:38 TheYango wrote: So Statikk Shiv is basically a cross between PD and Ionic Spark--except it's worse than Spark was at the one thing that you'd actually want to buy Shiv over PD for (farming ability). It bothers me that it now takes 10 hits to get the spark proc. It used to take only 5. It feels almost like a nerf to me, unless I missed something crucial here. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:38 TheYango wrote: So Statikk Shiv is basically a cross between PD and Ionic Spark--except it's worse than Spark was at the one thing that you'd actually want to buy Shiv over PD for (farming ability). Against champs, the fact that it does magic damage with no actual Magic Pen is going to hurt the item's usefulness as a real combat item. And it still shares Spark's problem of not having enough bounce range to farm smoothly, while actually charging up SLOWER than Spark in farming situations (Wiki says 10 charges per autoattack plus 1 more per 20 units moved--meaning that in lane farming situations you're going to take 5-8 autos to get a proc, as opposed to the 4 for Spark). SS+Twitch+SotD+IE. Oh gawd, All that AoE, I'm just waiting for some op'd item combo to show up in a tournament, just so Riot will completely nerf it to the ground. I think the most interesting new Item that's new in this s3 is zephyr. I feel it'll be underrated for a long time, until someone finds a good use for it. Oh shiet, WoDx gunna try out WW+manamura next game after he does manamura Ez. It's so fun to watch all these new items being tried out by pros. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:30 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: The jerk levels of Milotic were rivalled perhaps only by Suispikes (aka Suicune and Spikes). Interesting pokemon should be brought up, because pokemon used to have an extremely defensive metagame and each generation after gen 2 seemed to favor offense more than defense. Kind of like how armor and MR got more expensive and AD got cheaper lol | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:01 Dandel Ion wrote: I can see the merit of scouting the jungler, but I'd much rather ward, tbh. I don't really like the idea, but I might try it. When I'm done with trying the 100000 other builds I need to try right now T.T This item seems really, REALLY good on Mordekaiser, or perhaps any other AP that does not have gap closers. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:45 Sufficiency wrote: This item seems really, REALLY good on Mordekaiser, or perhaps any other AP that does not have gap closers. It seems awful on Mordekaiser. The item is most suited for ganks, because in teamfights you're very unlikely to actually get the spirits to target who you WANT to target--but in ganks other heroes will be far away//this can scout for counterganks. But Mordekaiser's ability as a ganking AP is quite poor. He's most powerful as a teamfighter/laner, and the item's usefulness in teamfights is limited for the targeting issue I mentioned. You're never practically going to be able to use it as a gap closer in teamfights because the 2 spirits will pretty much always hit 2 frontline heroes unless theres some egregious positioning error. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The item effect is useful, but they picked the absolute worst buildup for it. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:49 TheYango wrote: It seems awful on Mordekaiser. The item is most suited for ganks, because in teamfights you're very unlikely to actually get the spirits to target who you WANT to target--but in ganks other heroes will be far away//this can scout for counterganks. But Mordekaiser's ability as a ganking AP is quite poor. He's most powerful as a teamfighter/laner, and the item's usefulness in teamfights is limited for the targeting issue I mentioned. You're never practically going to be able to use it as a gap closer in teamfights because the 2 spirits will pretty much always hit 2 frontline heroes unless theres some egregious positioning error. It's actually more of a laning item. You use to slow your lane opponent so you can play aggressive. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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