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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 05 2012 21:25 GMT
#901
On December 06 2012 06:23 rhs408 wrote:
Ok, so has Syndra always been able to pick up a blue buff golem and bring it across the damn river to the other side of the map? I just saw this yesterday and it blew my frickin mind (I at first thought it was a new patch-related bug) - I'm walking along and all of a sudden I see a blue buff golem walking in the river (on its way back to its starting point). Then the enemy Syndra says "damnit I wanted to throw blue buff at someone". hahaha All I could say was WTF

Someone showed from PBE that Syndra can bring the blue buff all the way to the fountain (she won't get the buff if the fountain gets the kill). It takes quite some time though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 05 2012 21:32 GMT
#902
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
December 05 2012 21:32 GMT
#903
In this patch I have noticed that more idiots who have no idea what the hell to build are showing up. Building the same things as usual would probably still work. People seem determined to use then new items even when they are not the best choice.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 05 2012 21:36 GMT
#904
Who are these people that take so long to shop? I spend most of my time at the fountain waiting for mana regen as it is.
Freeeeeeedom
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
December 05 2012 21:38 GMT
#905
On December 06 2012 06:32 Leonite7 wrote:
In this patch I have noticed that more idiots who have no idea what the hell to build are showing up. Building the same things as usual would probably still work. People seem determined to use then new items even when they are not the best choice.


Experimenting with new items and builds after a massive patch changes a bunch of items and builds, makes people idiots?

WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
December 05 2012 21:39 GMT
#906
On December 06 2012 06:36 cLutZ wrote:
Who are these people that take so long to shop? I spend most of my time at the fountain waiting for mana regen as it is.

Pfff and after today's message on FB of phreak answering questions, it was only QQ cuz "RIOT BROKE TEH META!" and jungle being too hard...
Barackopala
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 21:42:52
December 05 2012 21:41 GMT
#907
Okay, I was totally wrong. The boots upgrade where your allies run faster if they're running towards you is absurdly strong. I just played my first game on the new patch and the upgrade is so good on Maokai for teamfights as long as you can survive the initial burst of damage. The new jungle item that gives you health, armor, and tenacity is really good too, and the aegis upgrade is really awesome against double ap comps.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 05 2012 21:42 GMT
#908
On December 06 2012 06:38 Baffels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:32 Leonite7 wrote:
In this patch I have noticed that more idiots who have no idea what the hell to build are showing up. Building the same things as usual would probably still work. People seem determined to use then new items even when they are not the best choice.


Experimenting with new items and builds after a massive patch changes a bunch of items and builds, makes people idiots?


There are some obvious bad things like teemo building ravenous hydra

But generally I agree, the only way we're going to figure out how to build new items is to mess around with them, and if you're really that great a theorycraft you should be able to win more games since the other players won't be able to build as well as you.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 05 2012 21:43 GMT
#909
any recommendations for lee jungle wrt new items? i just played a game and ran the exact same as before, only adding ravenous hydra for the lulz

i wanted spirit stone kinda but mana regen? idk if it's worth it

sightstone hops all day though
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
December 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#910
Zzz played a couple of games as AD, got horribly destroyed. 1 game Vayne, 1 game Koggles. Should maybe add that both games were 4v5 :/

Anyway, is boots+3 still the best way to start as AD? I did both games, it felt ok-ish. Rushing new items is definitely something I'm not going to do again though (rushed Runaan's on Kog, SotD on Vayne). BT/IE first will still be standard I think, those attack speed items just give you so little base damage. I got SotD first on Vayne against a Kog that went PD. I could 1v1 him very easily (pop ulti, 3 shots and he was pretty much dead), but I never got the chance due to his Nunu support zoning whilst my TF stood in base, oh well. Even though SotD felt pretty strong and I do think it will be a core item, it isn't that great as first item.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#911
i played a game of 3s and went muramana/sotd/statikk/wit's on kayle.

that was... dumb. sure was funny to go nuts with 3 crits and massive attack speed and to see all my mana drain. totally not worth it.

i can see statikk being legit over PD for people with wave clearing problems... maybe...

Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2012 21:56 GMT
#912
So glad to see that the champion threads are being put back to use ^_^

Apparently black cleaver+ghostblade is super strong on AD Casters right now. Anyone tried it on Riven/Zed?
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 21:57:33
December 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#913
On December 06 2012 06:48 Doctorbeat wrote:
Zzz played a couple of games as AD, got horribly destroyed. 1 game Vayne, 1 game Koggles. Should maybe add that both games were 4v5 :/

Anyway, is boots+3 still the best way to start as AD? I did both games, it felt ok-ish. Rushing new items is definitely something I'm not going to do again though (rushed Runaan's on Kog, SotD on Vayne). BT/IE first will still be standard I think, those attack speed items just give you so little base damage. I got SotD first on Vayne against a Kog that went PD. I could 1v1 him very easily (pop ulti, 3 shots and he was pretty much dead), but I never got the chance due to his Nunu support zoning whilst my TF stood in base, oh well. Even though SotD felt pretty strong and I do think it will be a core item, it isn't that great as first item.

I'd say it depends. if you are trist corki caitlyn or ashe i'd probably get boots first if not i'd probably go long sword +2.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#914
On December 06 2012 06:49 kainzero wrote:
i played a game of 3s and went muramana/sotd/statikk/wit's on kayle.

that was... dumb. sure was funny to go nuts with 3 crits and massive attack speed and to see all my mana drain. totally not worth it.

i can see statikk being legit over PD for people with wave clearing problems... maybe...


Chaox was in love with it on his stream yesterday, talking about how it might replace Phantom Dancer...but we'll see if that actually happens.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 05 2012 21:58 GMT
#915
From what I saw Statikk has the same problem as ionic spark: not enough range to reach the backline. Tiamat works better in that regard.

Also I don't see anything wrong with people experimenting. Saw a Trist with IE->zephyr->hurricane. I think it's obviously suboptimal because SotD synergizes a lot better with IE's passive, and Trist doesn't have any particular advantage to take off of hurricane (unlike Cait/Kog/Varus/Ashe), but as I jokingly said to him after spectating (he took it pretty badly when I used to try and help him with his builds), "The only reason I kept quiet was 'cause it's s3, you gotta try" (also since I can't play atm he does it for me ).
Not sure what would fit Trist actually. Probably same IE/PD as before, she doesn't really get anything from zephyr apart from tenacity, hurricane I already addressed, and she doesn't have particular burst to go with SotD (E is a DoT and outside of laning phase W-ing in is risky). SotD could be useful to get jump resets though, and would make her even better at cleaning up as she has pretty good chances to use it twice in a long teamfight with her range and resetting repositioning tool.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 21:59:59
December 05 2012 21:58 GMT
#916
On December 06 2012 06:56 Mondeezy wrote:
So glad to see that the champion threads are being put back to use ^_^

Apparently black cleaver+ghostblade is super strong on AD Casters right now. Anyone tried it on Riven/Zed?


I went BC on Kha'Zix, felt pretty good. It's a really neat item. Haven't combo'd it up with ghostblade yet though.

Btw, anyone else feel that laning/jungling in general just feels a lot slower? Harder to harass people out of lane, harder to gank, a lot of passivity early on from other people than in your lane. IE getting counterpicked in lane sucks so much harder than before.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 05 2012 22:01 GMT
#917
On December 06 2012 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:56 Mondeezy wrote:
So glad to see that the champion threads are being put back to use ^_^

Apparently black cleaver+ghostblade is super strong on AD Casters right now. Anyone tried it on Riven/Zed?


I went BC on Kha'Zix, felt pretty good. It's a really neat item. Haven't combo'd it up with ghostblade yet though.

Btw, anyone else feel that laning/jungling in general just feels a lot slower? Harder to harass people out of lane, harder to gank, a lot of passivity early on.

Bottle by its nature makes harassing out of a lane harder, always have potion never not have potions. Not sure what's the deal with the passivity, technically reduced early jungle pressure and if you have a ward you can feel much safer. Maybe it'll just take time for people to adjust.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 05 2012 22:04 GMT
#918
On December 06 2012 07:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On December 06 2012 06:56 Mondeezy wrote:
So glad to see that the champion threads are being put back to use ^_^

Apparently black cleaver+ghostblade is super strong on AD Casters right now. Anyone tried it on Riven/Zed?


I went BC on Kha'Zix, felt pretty good. It's a really neat item. Haven't combo'd it up with ghostblade yet though.

Btw, anyone else feel that laning/jungling in general just feels a lot slower? Harder to harass people out of lane, harder to gank, a lot of passivity early on.

Bottle by its nature makes harassing out of a lane harder, always have potion never not have potions. Not sure what's the deal with the passivity, technically reduced early jungle pressure and if you have a ward you can feel much safer. Maybe it'll just take time for people to adjust.

bottle makes it easier for supports to harrass out of lane, not harder. mid lane is a wash since it'll be identical to before but maybe take a couple extra spells, top is strange right now because depending on matchup you can go without boots for a LONG time.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 05 2012 22:06 GMT
#919
On December 06 2012 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 06:56 Mondeezy wrote:
So glad to see that the champion threads are being put back to use ^_^

Apparently black cleaver+ghostblade is super strong on AD Casters right now. Anyone tried it on Riven/Zed?


I went BC on Kha'Zix, felt pretty good. It's a really neat item. Haven't combo'd it up with ghostblade yet though.

Btw, anyone else feel that laning/jungling in general just feels a lot slower? Harder to harass people out of lane, harder to gank, a lot of passivity early on from other people than in your lane. IE getting counterpicked in lane sucks so much harder than before.


I think people are just getting used to all the new items and builds and they're not as comfortable as before, since it's pretty much a whole bunch of stuff hitting you at once. I'm sure in a couple of weeks once people find optimal builds gameplay will start to speed up.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 05 2012 22:07 GMT
#920
hmm BotRK is kinda meh on ad carries tbh, the range on the active is super small (cutlass) but i guess you could use it as an own peel tool

Sword of the divine on the other hand Q_Q soo good. need
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