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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 16 2012 21:54 GMT
#1701
"Wow I smited too early!"
- Saint on Aphro's stream, blaming a reset while they were 2 hitting it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 16 2012 21:54 GMT
#1702
fFck you cookies now i gotta get some
Cackle™
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
November 16 2012 21:59 GMT
#1703
Can't have any of mine, I only have enough to be qualified as "Many". Otherwise I'd be "QuiteaFewButNotQuiteManyCookies", and name changes are expensive.

In seriousness, I'm quite happy about our new item diversity. I always felt build paths were too linearized and independent of the game state. And does the jungle actually provide more gold, or is it like S2 all over again?
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 16 2012 21:59 GMT
#1704
On November 17 2012 06:53 ManyCookies wrote:
I think we're all missing the real issue here.

Has the Dunkmaster been nerfed or buffed with the new item and mastery changes?


I've got the universal answer to questions like these
+ Show Spoiler +
it's situational
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
November 16 2012 22:02 GMT
#1705
Not really that situational; can he go faster or not?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#1706
Okay, meme aside, on Aphro's stream Saint said the passive gold increase was 2 more gold per second. In a 40 minute games that's another 4800 gold for doing nothing. I wonder how total gold will be affected with the lower values on creeps.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#1707
On November 17 2012 07:03 onlywonderboy wrote:
Okay, meme aside, on Aphro's stream Saint said the passive gold increase was 2 more gold per second. In a 40 minute games that's another 4800 gold for doing nothing. I wonder how total gold will be affected with the lower values on creeps.


I really doubt that it's 2 per seconds. Much more likely that it's 2 gp10.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#1708
On November 17 2012 05:10 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:00 Requizen wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:56 Seuss wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:52 Requizen wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:47 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't actually like the concept of a "farm jungler". Jungling is intrinsically safer than laning and harder to counterpick, because the jungler is mostly PvEing out of sight of the opposing team. It feels awfully broken if a champion that has a very bad laning phase can just hide in the jungle and farm for 20 minutes (occasionally going around for a kill) yet still has similar farm to a solo lane.

The jungle will still be less than a lane (though an argument can be made that the jungler can not miss CS like a laner can). Also, counterjungling is destructive, something that we have forgotten in S2 jungle. Considering the new big monster is like, 80% of a camp's farm (someone correct me on that), people like Nunu, Shy, etc, (who can kill the big monster quckly and escape) can shut down farm junglers pretty easily, even if they don't fight them directly. Plus, a farm jungler isn't helping their team, so even if they are getting "safe, free farm", the enemy jungler has made the enemy team much stronger than what that one person with jungle farm can make up for.


You can't steal camps from someone who keeps them perpetually cleared. If farm jungling became a thing you'd need a concerted team strategy to catch and control them.

That somewhat depends on what paths are. If we keep the same Wolves-Blue-Wraiths-Wolves-Red-Wraiths path, someone like Nunu starting blue, stealing big Wraith, and then going back to his own jungle puts the enemy way behind currently, and he can keep that up throughout the game. Warding the enemy jungle helps that, as well.


First, the big Wraith is only worth 25g now. Second, "if he can keep that up the entire game" is a big if. There are huge risks involved in invading enemy territory, and one death will erase 12 successful thefts.

I think it's closer to 9.5 deaths in gold assuming mid walks two steps and helps to get the kill. But then again when nunu's walking past river to get to camps he farms slower himself.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 16 2012 22:04 GMT
#1709
Isn't it huge? It's almost triple what we have currently.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
November 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#1710
On November 17 2012 06:59 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 06:53 ManyCookies wrote:
I think we're all missing the real issue here.

Has the Dunkmaster been nerfed or buffed with the new item and mastery changes?


I've got the universal answer to questions like these
+ Show Spoiler +
it's situational

Might as well just tell him you have no idea - obviously some champions are gonna be stronger and other champions are gonna be weaker after an overhaul like this.
wat
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 16 2012 22:06 GMT
#1711
I seriously can't wait to use the frozen fist(?) thing that builds out of sheen+glacial. It sounds comically strong.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 16 2012 22:07 GMT
#1712
On November 17 2012 06:59 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 06:53 ManyCookies wrote:
I think we're all missing the real issue here.

Has the Dunkmaster been nerfed or buffed with the new item and mastery changes?


I've got the universal answer to questions like these
+ Show Spoiler +
it's situational

I'm assuming pretty much straight up better thanks to a lot of the items really benefiting melee autoattackers.
It's your boy Guzma!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 16 2012 22:07 GMT
#1713
On November 17 2012 06:54 Alaric wrote:
"Wow I smited too early!"
- Saint on Aphro's stream, blaming a reset while they were 2 hitting it.

to be fair it actually fucking reset and refused to die when he was still hitting it lol
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 16 2012 22:08 GMT
#1714
On November 17 2012 07:04 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 07:03 onlywonderboy wrote:
Okay, meme aside, on Aphro's stream Saint said the passive gold increase was 2 more gold per second. In a 40 minute games that's another 4800 gold for doing nothing. I wonder how total gold will be affected with the lower values on creeps.


I really doubt that it's 2 per seconds. Much more likely that it's 2 gp10.

That's probably more likely, the infamy of Saint's stream rumors live on.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 22:10:27
November 16 2012 22:08 GMT
#1715
That's the joke Equilas.

Passive gold gain on live is 14 gp/10. 2 per second is an additonal 20 gp/10. That seems a bit too high, though 2 gp/10 also seems insignificant.

EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
November 16 2012 22:10 GMT
#1716
I don't get it - either I'm really dumb or it's a terrible joke that makes no sense..
wat
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
November 16 2012 22:12 GMT
#1717
It was a pretty dry joke. Don't worry about it too much.

But can Yi move faster in this patch?
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
November 16 2012 22:16 GMT
#1718
Saint just said Jax, Nocturne, Fiddle and GP are much better in the new jungle.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 16 2012 22:18 GMT
#1719
saint says a lot of things
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
November 16 2012 22:20 GMT
#1720
Most of them range from truth to truth from a certain point of view.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
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