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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 17:28:33
November 29 2012 17:26 GMT
#4981
The whole doublelift is dumb meme has something to do with his cocky attitude imo. You can't be "dumb" to play at such level, you just need some kind of intelligence to know what to improve to get to that level in the first place.

On November 30 2012 02:15 TheYango wrote:
A point about PD+Nunu:

Vayne needs 26% bonus MS to hit the MS soft cap of 495 MS with Night Hunter (and 36% to hit it without Night Hunter). PD+Nunu is smooth together because the combination gives you exactly 27% with Blood Boil rank 5.

By and large, people underestimate how important the MS softcap is.

Stop using facts man doesn't seems very fair... Do like everybody in here, say it's dumb and that others don't play ad carry enough and there you win the argument !
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 17:30:59
November 29 2012 17:30 GMT
#4982
You're the only one who has not used any facts. When I said that you probably don't play a lot of AD carry, I did it because your claims made no sense to me and you didn't back them up by anything. Stop whining please.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
November 29 2012 17:32 GMT
#4983
Re doublelift is dumb. He's still on a team with hotshot.

question answered.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
November 29 2012 17:36 GMT
#4984
On November 30 2012 02:30 OutlaW- wrote:
You're the only one who has not used any facts. When I said that you probably don't play a lot of AD carry, I did it because your claims made no sense to me and you didn't back them up by anything. Stop whining please.

Are you always this boring or is it just this period of the year ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 17:39:00
November 29 2012 17:37 GMT
#4985
I'm not sure what you mean by period of the year, but if you're okay with it, then it's fine. I was just worried that you took my words seriously since you sounded kinda mad.
In other news, Reapered is being a huge boss with nidalee on his stream. koreans so good.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 29 2012 18:00 GMT
#4986
id just like to mention that no one on this forum is qualified enough to criticize doublelift's game intelligence, let alone *gasp* low elos.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 18:03:58
November 29 2012 18:03 GMT
#4987
On November 30 2012 02:15 TheYango wrote:
A point about PD+Nunu:

Vayne needs 26% bonus MS to hit the MS soft cap of 495 MS with Night Hunter (and 36% to hit it without Night Hunter). PD+Nunu is smooth together because the combination gives you exactly 27% with Blood Boil rank 5.

By and large, people underestimate how important the MS softcap is.

Now that I think about it, 4.5% movespeed from runes is shit for gold efficacy. Which makes me wonder: why do I run them? I don't rush zeal on anyone but AD Kayle so it can't be that useful.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 18:10:26
November 29 2012 18:09 GMT
#4988
On November 30 2012 03:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
id just like to mention that no one on this forum is qualified enough to criticize doublelift's game intelligence, let alone *gasp* low elos.


im sorry can you point me to the university that gives you a degree in criticising pro LoL players

lets just have a forum where we talk about latest team drama since nobody here is good enough to talk about anything
aka Teutonica
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 29 2012 18:09 GMT
#4989
On November 30 2012 03:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
id just like to mention that no one on this forum is qualified enough to criticize doublelift's game intelligence, let alone *gasp* low elos.

That's enough, everyone knows your opinions already.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
November 29 2012 18:09 GMT
#4990
On November 30 2012 03:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
id just like to mention that no one on this forum is qualified enough to criticize doublelift's game intelligence, let alone *gasp* low elos.

plz tell me about your Elo again
I want to hear more about your Elo
Elo
Elo
A backwards poet writes inverse.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#4991
On November 30 2012 03:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
id just like to mention that no one on this forum is qualified enough to criticize doublelift's game intelligence, let alone *gasp* low elos.

plz tell me about your Elo again
I want to hear more about your Elo
Elo
Elo

and win trading
win trading
trading
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
November 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#4992
On November 30 2012 03:10 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 03:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
On November 30 2012 03:00 zulu_nation8 wrote:
id just like to mention that no one on this forum is qualified enough to criticize doublelift's game intelligence, let alone *gasp* low elos.

plz tell me about your Elo again
I want to hear more about your Elo
Elo
Elo

and win trading
win trading
trading

youre all noobs
noobs
noobs
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 29 2012 18:12 GMT
#4993
Ugh. Every time bly talks now this shit starts.
Neo.....this would be a perfect time to pull out that ult of yours....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 29 2012 18:16 GMT
#4994
DARKNESSSSSSSSSSSSS
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 29 2012 18:24 GMT
#4995
On November 30 2012 02:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Re doublelift is dumb. He's still on a team with hotshot.

question answered.

With that logic, you'd be saying Chauster is dumb.

This has been hotly debated in SC:BW and SC:2 forums, just because someone's rating is higher than someone else, doesn't mean their points all of a sudden have validity. A good point backed by reason, coming from any elo rating is still a good point backed by reason.
liftlift > tsm
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
November 29 2012 18:26 GMT
#4996
On November 30 2012 03:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 02:32 PrinceXizor wrote:
Re doublelift is dumb. He's still on a team with hotshot.

question answered.

With that logic, you'd be saying Chauster is dumb.

This has been hotly debated in SC:BW and SC:2 forums, just because someone's rating is higher than someone else, doesn't mean their points all of a sudden have validity. A good point backed by reason, coming from any elo rating is still a good point backed by reason.


LOL SILVER NOOB WHAT DO YOU KNOW

(I actually have no idea what rating you are.)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 29 2012 18:26 GMT
#4997
you can criticize pro players but making people out to be literal retards at a game they play professionally is a little shortsighted?

For every 300 elo or so of ranked, the skill difference is significant. Most people on top of the ladder don't play professionally. Out of the ones who do, most of their teams haven't won anything. The ones who have with the exception of the top tier NA teams have never beaten CLG. Then there's doublelift. If you think facechecking a brush or building wrong or some shit makes someone bad then I wanna see a replay of how you play.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 18:31:20
November 29 2012 18:30 GMT
#4998
Irelia vs Jax, how do you do it?

I was 2-0-2 from lvl1 + roaming mid, and went all in lvl 6 vs his lvl 5 (I also had a phage red buff dorans vs his vamp dorans).

So now I'm 3-0, pick up a sheen and go back to lane and immediately try to all in him again. But he's 6 now and outduels me ?_? I saved my W until after his E and then E'd him after he wasted his E without stunning me. But his ramping ult damage and W resets do way more than my ult+sheen procs. Should I have just backed out after his E went on CD, waited for his passive to die + ult active to die, and then go back in? I felt like I should be massively ahead enough to have just 1v1'd him regardless.

Since I was massively ahead and still lost an all in duel, how do you play the lane if its even? Seems like Jax can just shit on you all day. Build Ionic Spark and just push push push and never fight him?
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thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 18:34:14
November 29 2012 18:30 GMT
#4999
On November 30 2012 03:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 02:15 TheYango wrote:
A point about PD+Nunu:

Vayne needs 26% bonus MS to hit the MS soft cap of 495 MS with Night Hunter (and 36% to hit it without Night Hunter). PD+Nunu is smooth together because the combination gives you exactly 27% with Blood Boil rank 5.

By and large, people underestimate how important the MS softcap is.

Now that I think about it, 4.5% movespeed from runes is shit for gold efficacy. Which makes me wonder: why do I run them? I don't rush zeal on anyone but AD Kayle so it can't be that useful.

If I want to go AD stacking it's pretty easy. If I want to go MS stacking it's pretty tough; beyond boots, if my champ doesn't like zeal I'm pretty stuck. It's especially bad for APs that don't use lichbane, they literally have no options for increased MS beyond boots.

EDIT: also theorying the gold value of stats that don't appear on base items is also somewhat bogus. If there was a quint that was "On minion hit, 20% chance to deal 70 bonus damage" every jungler would pick up 3 in a heartbeat, even if you theory out based on the cost of madred's razors that this effect has a gold value of only 30g or so.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
November 29 2012 18:31 GMT
#5000
In germany we sometimes say there are 80 million trainers for our national soccer team...

Critizing pros and pretending you would do better is one of the great joys of watching sports in my opinion. I would have totally scored that goal. I would never check a brush without thinking!
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
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