EPTedit: Should we have a TSM weekly thread? Just a simple thread with the link to the current brackets and have discussion there.
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
edit: Should we have a TSM weekly thread? Just a simple thread with the link to the current brackets and have discussion there. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:36 HazMat wrote: Fking Saint. He did a great job getting that red and flashing over golem wall to safety. But then he decides to blue pill right there instead of walking to tower and dies LOL. So much wasted effort =( edit: Should we have a TSM weekly thread? Just a simple thread with the link to the current brackets and have discussion there. That's not a bad idea, this thread often turns into a pseudo-discussion thread for them when they are going on. Any meaningful way to remove out of context posts is a good idea in my opinion. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:20 nafta wrote: You overestimate people's skill based on previous elo.Most of my games at 1700/1800 silver players beat plats/diamonds in lane no junglers lol.Funny thing is you can even tell they are silver based on items and how they play so makes it even weirder :D.Of course there are those gold vaynes who q INTO graves or silver corkis who w and flash to chase and complain you didn't exhaust someone who appeared next to them....But what you gonna do  .I occasionally outlaned 2k+ elo players when I pretended the enemy jungler did not exist (and possibly due to my opponent not playing his best role). There is always some luck in it. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:48 Sufficiency wrote: I occasionally outlaned 2k+ elo players when I pretended the enemy jungler did not exist (and possibly due to my opponent not playing his best role). There is always some luck in it. I do that all the time. Those noobs lose a trade to me and then fight me like idiots. They get so low and then the jungler shows up out of nowhere because he constantly camps me and kills me when I would have won otherwise D: | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:36 HazMat wrote: Fking Saint. He did a great job getting that red and flashing over golem wall to safety. But then he decides to blue pill right there instead of walking to tower and dies LOL. So much wasted effort =( edit: Should we have a TSM weekly thread? Just a simple thread with the link to the current brackets and have discussion there. You wouldn't happen to know why St.V's been exclusively playing Lee Sin in every single online tourney game of recent? Does he know something that everyone else doesn't? Nyjacky doing real work. Wow, I feel bad for aphro >.>, akali + diana = lulz where did adc go?" | ||
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ZeroVirus
United States68 Posts
Edit: Lol, Curse has so many shields they don't need minions to tank the turrets. I don't see how Fear can come back from this. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:19 TheYango wrote: Ohmwrecker looks to be a snowball item. The baseline cost-effectiveness isn't that good and the active does nothing in jungle or defensive fights. It makes it harder for the enemy to defend towers but is useless when you're defending. Also, junglers don't finish 3k gold items during the laning phase, so the question of how good it is during ganks is irrelevant. True, but it can still disincentivize clg.eu style tower turtles in the early teamfight stages. So maybe not on the jungler (or only on one that's farming), and then only on specific teamcomps/against specific teamcomps. I just think it's a neat item. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
ADC Mid Top Jungler Support The standard way of making the players match up with their lanes makes more sense: Top Junger Mid ADC Support Just weird, wondered why the decided to change it up. I guess I've gotten used to it since other major tournaments do it that way so I find myself looking at the wrong place and having to double take after being confused as to why the jungler has Deathcap. Edit: Looking at it again I guess it's in order of farm priority, but I still think it's way less intuitive than matching it up with the lanes. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14119 Posts
The item overhaul solves a lot of ryze's problems I think but it still doesn't make up for his horribad lane phase. I wouldn't be too surprised to see him make a return in bot lane with a support if teams send an adc mid for farm and a tanky top. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On November 25 2012 10:20 cLutZ wrote: Rengar is the reason I dont really understand the "AD Assassin/Caster" QQ. What is Rengar if not just a much better version of Talon? Actually I do have a blast playing Talon. Rengar? Not so much. Of course in the late game nothing can compare about Talon to Rengar, but since I play to have fun... also jump. Loom at the skirts of their spells' range, ready to jump to them, or just W->Q them, or bait skillshots champs with a W then walking to them so they cast some stuff that you E to dodge and walk away unharmed. Rengar just goes top, spams W and is all "meh". Well maybe bushes aren't my thing too. :< | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:21 Sermokala wrote: flask is What you NEED to build on supports. Its the sustain that you are looking for. I'm telling you ohmwrecker will be core on supports moving forward. its the end all be all support item that being said I see a lot of supports getting cata and only upgrading to ohm late game ish when seiges become a thing. am I missing something because flask doesn't seem particularly supportive to me. It's in direct competition with philo for them and I probably buy less potions on support than any other role. Additionally ohmwrecker looks like scrub bait to me since it literally has no use unless you're already winning. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:28 Alaric wrote: Actually I do have a blast playing Talon. Rengar? Not so much. Of course in the late game nothing can compare about Talon to Rengar, but since I play to have fun... also jump. Loom at the skirts of their spells' range, ready to jump to them, or just W->Q them, or bait skillshots champs with a W then walking to them so they cast some stuff that you E to dodge and walk away unharmed. Rengar just goes top, spams W and is all "meh". Well maybe bushes aren't my thing too. :< I wasn't talking about funness. I was just saying, basically, that Talon is bad right now and its not a problem that encompasses an entire "class" of characters. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
dominate dominating xmithie in the jungle too edit: ok patoy got 1 kill | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:39 UniversalSnip wrote: am I missing something because flask doesn't seem particularly supportive to me. It's in direct competition with philo for them and I probably buy less potions on support than any other role. Additionally ohmwrecker looks like scrub bait to me since it literally has no use unless you're already winning. I think a lot of supports are going to open flask and wards. I wouldn't mind picking up a few potions on supports but I end up spending most of my loose change on wards. Now if you buy this as your open it pays for itself after two trips back and you are able to have quicker sustain in lane. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14119 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:39 UniversalSnip wrote: am I missing something because flask doesn't seem particularly supportive to me. It's in direct competition with philo for them and I probably buy less potions on support than any other role. Additionally ohmwrecker looks like scrub bait to me since it literally has no use unless you're already winning. A philo stone now has the stats of 7 health per 5 and 9 mana per 5. A flask is only 225 as well. there are points where it would be pretty stupid to get but I do think that some comps are going to really want it. It won't hurt sitting on a 1200g cata and then upgradeing it for whatever you need. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On November 26 2012 09:54 OutlaW- wrote: Holy shit. Qtpie double kills with 5 hp without dying, aphromoo getting smashed but it was really fucking close dominate dominating xmithie in the jungle too edit: ok patoy got 1 kill qt is the best. Aphromoo is just popular. | ||
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