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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2012 07:46 GMT
#6061
On November 12 2012 16:31 Vanka wrote:
It's free week LB on the chinese server, and being low level means all LB all day. I theorycrafted it up and thought ap janna would be a good counter, for shield against burst, and be able to shove lane against a no-wave clear champ. I'm getting zoned out from the start though, and I can't decide between stacking dorans + death cap rush so i can start one shotting waves earlier, or going athene's for the mr =/

Should I just start shield lvl 1 and auto her?


AP Janna is not good at all, because she needs lvl 7 to one-shot the backline. Before that, you need autos to last hit a lot of minions... and LB will easily punish you for that.

At least play Morgana if you want to play the shove game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 07:48:24
November 12 2012 07:48 GMT
#6062
If you just want to beat LeBlanc, go Galio, build magic resist, give zero fks. (Edit: Ah I assume that's based on free week choices though, nevermind)
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 07:54:51
November 12 2012 07:51 GMT
#6063
Donno if he actually owns Janna or not, but Janna is 1300 IP, same as Morgana, so....

But yea, Galio is probably the best counter against LeBlanc. Alternatively, you can try Mordekaiser, Morgana (as mentioned), and Sion.

Personally, I wouldn't even mind playing Karthus or Cassiopeia against LB right now. I feel that LB is that bad.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
November 12 2012 07:53 GMT
#6064
On November 12 2012 16:48 Inschato wrote:
If you just want to beat LeBlanc, go Galio, build magic resist, give zero fks. (Edit: Ah I assume that's based on free week choices though, nevermind)


Winning isn't the big issue, the skill level between the players and the champs I know how to play is large enough I can win with Annie vs. LB out of pure outplaying. I just thought it would be an interesting experiment in putting theorycraft into practice. Guess I didn't anticipate how big janna's small aa range would play though
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 12 2012 07:53 GMT
#6065
overlord malzahar sale ends in 5 mins
he's my fav champ but shadow prince op

WHAT DO
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
November 12 2012 07:57 GMT
#6066
On November 12 2012 16:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
overlord malzahar sale ends in 5 mins
he's my fav champ but shadow prince op

WHAT DO

overlord malzahar get
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 12 2012 08:19 GMT
#6067
Jarvan might actually be one of the single most satisfying champions I've ever played.

It might just be because I'm at like 1200 elo, but every teamfight just becomes E > Q > Ult > W the AD Carry and laugh as they explode.

It also probably helps that I build ArP on Jarvan with ArP Runes/Masteries, but still. SO FUN.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
November 12 2012 08:26 GMT
#6068
On November 12 2012 17:19 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Jarvan might actually be one of the single most satisfying champions I've ever played.

It might just be because I'm at like 1200 elo, but every teamfight just becomes E > Q > Ult > W the AD Carry and laugh as they explode.

It also probably helps that I build ArP on Jarvan with ArP Runes/Masteries, but still. SO FUN.


you should try Olaf if you like to explode AD carries. ghost/shurelias + ult make the ad cry.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2012 08:27 GMT
#6069
MVP's support Zyra at level 9 just blew up a level 12 Zilean's entire health bar. WTF.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
November 12 2012 08:28 GMT
#6070
Best laners against LB happen to be atypical mids like Gangplank or Yorick.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 12 2012 08:33 GMT
#6071
On November 12 2012 17:26 Nabes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 17:19 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Jarvan might actually be one of the single most satisfying champions I've ever played.

It might just be because I'm at like 1200 elo, but every teamfight just becomes E > Q > Ult > W the AD Carry and laugh as they explode.

It also probably helps that I build ArP on Jarvan with ArP Runes/Masteries, but still. SO FUN.


you should try Olaf if you like to explode AD carries. ghost/shurelias + ult make the ad cry.

I mean, I've played Olaf, but it's just not as satisfying.

With Olaf you have to do that whole pesky running thing.

Jarvan is just like OH HEY AD CARRY SUP?
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11787 Posts
November 12 2012 08:37 GMT
#6072
Can someone give me a rough description as to how Lux support works? I want to try it, but am slightly confused. What to max, how to play, what to buy, etc...
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
November 12 2012 08:39 GMT
#6073
Lux support = Hit Light Bindings, kill enemy.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
November 12 2012 08:45 GMT
#6074
On November 12 2012 17:33 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 17:26 Nabes wrote:
On November 12 2012 17:19 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Jarvan might actually be one of the single most satisfying champions I've ever played.

It might just be because I'm at like 1200 elo, but every teamfight just becomes E > Q > Ult > W the AD Carry and laugh as they explode.

It also probably helps that I build ArP on Jarvan with ArP Runes/Masteries, but still. SO FUN.


you should try Olaf if you like to explode AD carries. ghost/shurelias + ult make the ad cry.

I mean, I've played Olaf, but it's just not as satisfying.

With Olaf you have to do that whole pesky running thing.

Jarvan is just like OH HEY AD CARRY SUP?


I would concur with this, 1v1 lvl 8 support jarvan with no damage items vs enemy ad carry, jarvan wins lol
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 09:02:20
November 12 2012 08:54 GMT
#6075
On November 12 2012 17:37 Simberto wrote:
Can someone give me a rough description as to how Lux support works? I want to try it, but am slightly confused. What to max, how to play, what to buy, etc...

- 1-5 use E to zone out the enemy adc from farming and use Q to protect your carry from early ganks and secure kills if the opportunity presents itself
- kill them at 6
- post 6 max your boomerang faster than damage spells as it scales way after off level than ap
- in lategame, you'll be at 40% cdr off of boots and shurelias, snare the squishes and use your laser as a poke instead of a finisher

you really need to be running a hard kill lane with support lux or you are wasting your time because her utility falls off very fast the later the game goes. for items you do the same support build that everyone does
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 09:15:42
November 12 2012 09:14 GMT
#6076
On November 12 2012 17:33 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 17:26 Nabes wrote:
On November 12 2012 17:19 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Jarvan might actually be one of the single most satisfying champions I've ever played.

It might just be because I'm at like 1200 elo, but every teamfight just becomes E > Q > Ult > W the AD Carry and laugh as they explode.

It also probably helps that I build ArP on Jarvan with ArP Runes/Masteries, but still. SO FUN.


you should try Olaf if you like to explode AD carries. ghost/shurelias + ult make the ad cry.

I mean, I've played Olaf, but it's just not as satisfying.

With Olaf you have to do that whole pesky running thing.

Jarvan is just like OH HEY AD CARRY SUP?

Which is why it's so sweet to play Graves, Corki or Ezrael.

"Oh Jarvan ulti? Should I escape using an ability, or simply use flash?"

Shooting Jarvan in his face while he is inside his own ulti, so much fun.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 12 2012 09:28 GMT
#6077
Graves Corki Ezreal Tristana Cait can all jump out of his ult, then you have Vayne and Draven who you can shoot jarvan out of his own ult with.

Basicly if ur not Ashe MF Twitch Sivir or Varus you are fine.

My personal favorite tho is being urgot and swapping whatever teammate is being an ass into jarvans ult.
KCCO!
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
November 12 2012 09:36 GMT
#6078
On November 12 2012 17:54 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 17:37 Simberto wrote:
Can someone give me a rough description as to how Lux support works? I want to try it, but am slightly confused. What to max, how to play, what to buy, etc...

- 1-5 use E to zone out the enemy adc from farming and use Q to protect your carry from early ganks and secure kills if the opportunity presents itself
- kill them at 6
- post 6 max your boomerang faster than damage spells as it scales way after off level than ap
- in lategame, you'll be at 40% cdr off of boots and shurelias, snare the squishes and use your laser as a poke instead of a finisher

you really need to be running a hard kill lane with support lux or you are wasting your time because her utility falls off very fast the later the game goes. for items you do the same support build that everyone does


Is there any reason to go lux support over zyra these days? It seems that zyra does pretty much exactly what lux does, save shields, only better.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
November 12 2012 09:42 GMT
#6079
How do you guys skill Zyra support? I usually max E first for obvious reasons and then W for CDR, Q last, though I'm not sure if that is optimal.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 10:11:51
November 12 2012 10:09 GMT
#6080
On November 12 2012 14:11 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Whoa Yiruru looks totally nothing like I expected


Yiruru's actually huge O___O. The girl in the picture is a little shorter than me, ~5'9ish
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