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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 11 2012 23:12 GMT
#5981
On November 12 2012 07:19 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 06:01 NpG)Explosive wrote:
On November 12 2012 05:39 misirlou wrote:
Guys im going to play in a college tournament (first time 5 of us gona play together, just for fun but im quite tryhard player xD) as support and I was wondering what the best addition to my pool is.
Currently i play Ali, blitz, janna, morgana, nunu, sona, soraka, taric. I have nidalee which i dont play a lot, and I recently bought leona and im on the process of learning her. Is zyra that good as a support and should i start saving up for and learn her? Any other crucial I am missing?

You can add lulu to your list and I wouldn't play nidalee and morgana as support.


y I play lulu when she's free but didnt bought her yet. idk why i put morgana on the list, was just looking at champ list, i dont play her in ranked as support either. lux also top tier or not worth it?


Zyra is absolutely top-tier, but only if you land her skillshots every time. Missing her e, for instance, will probably screw your lane.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 11 2012 23:21 GMT
#5982
Lulu and Sona are my favorite supports atm.

Nunu and Taric are highly dependent on your AD and your cooperation with with said player.

Zyra and Fiddle impact lane and team fight immensely but they allow for little to no room for error. It's very hard to come back from behind with them.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#5983
On November 12 2012 07:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 07:04 Craton wrote:
I unsuccessfully dusted off Nautilus for ranked the other day. It's depressing how ineffective he is right now.


Fixed.

Play the tree man. YOU DON'T SEE HIM COMING.


I lol'd.

Also Poor Naut. So easy to counterjungle, completely shut down by getting counterjungled.
Freeeeeeedom
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 11 2012 23:49 GMT
#5984
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 11 2012 23:52 GMT
#5985
On November 12 2012 08:38 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 07:16 ticklishmusic wrote:
On November 12 2012 07:04 Craton wrote:
I unsuccessfully dusted off Nautilus for ranked the other day. It's depressing how ineffective he is right now.


Fixed.

Play the tree man. YOU DON'T SEE HIM COMING.


I lol'd.

Also Poor Naut. So easy to counterjungle, completely shut down by getting counterjungled.

I wish he was more viable, he's got one of my favorite skins(Alpha Legion Nautilus) and the best voice in the game -_-
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 23:53:45
November 11 2012 23:52 GMT
#5986
On November 12 2012 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~



http://www.twitch.tv/mlglol/c/1723734

edit: This appears to cost money.
Stay positive!
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3239 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 23:54:24
November 11 2012 23:53 GMT
#5987
On November 12 2012 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~



On November 12 2012 08:52 remedium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~



http://www.twitch.tv/mlglol/c/1723734

edit: This appears to cost money.

subscriber only yet. they are probably free this or next week though
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 11 2012 23:53 GMT
#5988
On November 12 2012 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~

Silly Neo. Just message me on Skype next time. We're even talking right now lolol.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
November 11 2012 23:56 GMT
#5989
On November 12 2012 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~


only for subscribers unfortunately

http://www.youtube.com/user/LeagueESAN

this guy has them up on his youtube however. .
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 11 2012 23:56 GMT
#5990
On November 12 2012 08:53 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Need halp TL.

Are MLG Dallas VODs out, I'm looking for set 2 of the Finals. Need them for tonight for research.

tyty all~

Silly Neo. Just message me on Skype next time. We're even talking right now lolol.

ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2012 00:11 GMT
#5991
On November 12 2012 08:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 07:19 misirlou wrote:
On November 12 2012 06:01 NpG)Explosive wrote:
On November 12 2012 05:39 misirlou wrote:
Guys im going to play in a college tournament (first time 5 of us gona play together, just for fun but im quite tryhard player xD) as support and I was wondering what the best addition to my pool is.
Currently i play Ali, blitz, janna, morgana, nunu, sona, soraka, taric. I have nidalee which i dont play a lot, and I recently bought leona and im on the process of learning her. Is zyra that good as a support and should i start saving up for and learn her? Any other crucial I am missing?

You can add lulu to your list and I wouldn't play nidalee and morgana as support.


y I play lulu when she's free but didnt bought her yet. idk why i put morgana on the list, was just looking at champ list, i dont play her in ranked as support either. lux also top tier or not worth it?


Zyra is absolutely top-tier, but only if you land her skillshots every time. Missing her e, for instance, will probably screw your lane.


Zyra is going to get absolutely smashed and nerfed into oblivion as a support and possibly as a mid laner as well. It won't be long.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3239 Posts
November 12 2012 00:17 GMT
#5992
On November 12 2012 09:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 12 2012 07:19 misirlou wrote:
On November 12 2012 06:01 NpG)Explosive wrote:
On November 12 2012 05:39 misirlou wrote:
Guys im going to play in a college tournament (first time 5 of us gona play together, just for fun but im quite tryhard player xD) as support and I was wondering what the best addition to my pool is.
Currently i play Ali, blitz, janna, morgana, nunu, sona, soraka, taric. I have nidalee which i dont play a lot, and I recently bought leona and im on the process of learning her. Is zyra that good as a support and should i start saving up for and learn her? Any other crucial I am missing?

You can add lulu to your list and I wouldn't play nidalee and morgana as support.


y I play lulu when she's free but didnt bought her yet. idk why i put morgana on the list, was just looking at champ list, i dont play her in ranked as support either. lux also top tier or not worth it?


Zyra is absolutely top-tier, but only if you land her skillshots every time. Missing her e, for instance, will probably screw your lane.


Zyra is going to get absolutely smashed and nerfed into oblivion as a support and possibly as a mid laner as well. It won't be long.


I dont think E range nerf would hurt her mid too much while hitting hard her support. Also riot could nerf her base and buff her ratios
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 12 2012 00:18 GMT
#5993
Y'mean, those plants with 136 base magic damage each at level 18 without any AP?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#5994
On November 12 2012 09:17 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:11 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 12 2012 08:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 12 2012 07:19 misirlou wrote:
On November 12 2012 06:01 NpG)Explosive wrote:
On November 12 2012 05:39 misirlou wrote:
Guys im going to play in a college tournament (first time 5 of us gona play together, just for fun but im quite tryhard player xD) as support and I was wondering what the best addition to my pool is.
Currently i play Ali, blitz, janna, morgana, nunu, sona, soraka, taric. I have nidalee which i dont play a lot, and I recently bought leona and im on the process of learning her. Is zyra that good as a support and should i start saving up for and learn her? Any other crucial I am missing?

You can add lulu to your list and I wouldn't play nidalee and morgana as support.


y I play lulu when she's free but didnt bought her yet. idk why i put morgana on the list, was just looking at champ list, i dont play her in ranked as support either. lux also top tier or not worth it?


Zyra is absolutely top-tier, but only if you land her skillshots every time. Missing her e, for instance, will probably screw your lane.


Zyra is going to get absolutely smashed and nerfed into oblivion as a support and possibly as a mid laner as well. It won't be long.


I dont think E range nerf would hurt her mid too much while hitting hard her support. Also riot could nerf her base and buff her ratios


I have never seen Riot nerfing the range of a skillshot before.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Arekan
Profile Joined February 2011
United States248 Posts
November 12 2012 00:26 GMT
#5995
On November 12 2012 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:

I have never seen Riot nerfing the range of a skillshot before.


They nerfed Urgot's E back when they beat him down with nerf bats in the alley, and I'm pretty sure that would qualify as a skill shot. It's the only one I can think of though.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 12 2012 00:29 GMT
#5996
On November 12 2012 09:26 Arekan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:

I have never seen Riot nerfing the range of a skillshot before.


They nerfed Urgot's E back when they beat him down with nerf bats in the alley, and I'm pretty sure that would qualify as a skill shot. It's the only one I can think of though.

I think they also reduced nidalee's spear range.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 12 2012 00:32 GMT
#5997
On November 12 2012 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:26 Arekan wrote:
On November 12 2012 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:

I have never seen Riot nerfing the range of a skillshot before.


They nerfed Urgot's E back when they beat him down with nerf bats in the alley, and I'm pretty sure that would qualify as a skill shot. It's the only one I can think of though.

I think they also reduced nidalee's spear range.


I can't find the Nidalee change on wiki. The Urgot change on his E is true though (and probably not needed).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 12 2012 00:35 GMT
#5998
the nidalee change was in the upcoming pathnotes, but they are fixing/changing skilshots as well so it turned out that it's actually not going to be a nerf but a slight buff apparently/ or it stays the same Im not sure.
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
November 12 2012 00:35 GMT
#5999
On November 12 2012 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:26 Arekan wrote:
On November 12 2012 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:

I have never seen Riot nerfing the range of a skillshot before.


They nerfed Urgot's E back when they beat him down with nerf bats in the alley, and I'm pretty sure that would qualify as a skill shot. It's the only one I can think of though.

I think they also reduced nidalee's spear range.

You may be thinking of the adjustment Riot did to a few different skillshots because they changed the way the range was calculated. If so, there would have been no significant change overall.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 00:41:24
November 12 2012 00:40 GMT
#6000
On November 12 2012 09:17 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:11 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 12 2012 08:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 12 2012 07:19 misirlou wrote:
On November 12 2012 06:01 NpG)Explosive wrote:
On November 12 2012 05:39 misirlou wrote:
Guys im going to play in a college tournament (first time 5 of us gona play together, just for fun but im quite tryhard player xD) as support and I was wondering what the best addition to my pool is.
Currently i play Ali, blitz, janna, morgana, nunu, sona, soraka, taric. I have nidalee which i dont play a lot, and I recently bought leona and im on the process of learning her. Is zyra that good as a support and should i start saving up for and learn her? Any other crucial I am missing?

You can add lulu to your list and I wouldn't play nidalee and morgana as support.


y I play lulu when she's free but didnt bought her yet. idk why i put morgana on the list, was just looking at champ list, i dont play her in ranked as support either. lux also top tier or not worth it?


Zyra is absolutely top-tier, but only if you land her skillshots every time. Missing her e, for instance, will probably screw your lane.


Zyra is going to get absolutely smashed and nerfed into oblivion as a support and possibly as a mid laner as well. It won't be long.


I dont think E range nerf would hurt her mid too much while hitting hard her support. Also riot could nerf her base and buff her ratios


Likely nerfs:
▲Mana Costs of E, W.
▼Base Plant damage and scaling on levels.
▼R radius

None of which would be needed if other popular supports hadn't already had exactly the same nerfs of course.
Freeeeeeedom
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