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spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
November 08 2012 07:02 GMT
#4961
On November 08 2012 15:54 Owned Noob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 15:44 spellsy wrote:
clg.na is looking surprisingly good - that or most of the NA teams are in slump (fear, orb, crs, etc. )

clg, even at their worst (the mlg with hotshotgg jungle and hazzard), is better than every single na team besides arguably tsm and dig. even then, they destroyed dig in losers bracket and went 3-3 with tsm in finals. they really are just a step above na competition for some reason.

i disagree, clg was definitely not a fear online in last few weeks, but since getting locodoco i think they really have shown a much better performance - especially online
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 08 2012 07:09 GMT
#4962
CLG normally gets super tryhard practice mode when switching up their roster. Then after a few weeks they revert to normal NA team mentality of only solo q and scrim only right before tourneys. Lets hope locodoco's korean practice regiment puts some fire under them, but personally I'm rooting for dig to continue to improve.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
November 08 2012 07:13 GMT
#4963
On November 08 2012 15:44 spellsy wrote:
clg.na is looking surprisingly good - that or most of the NA teams are in slump (fear, orb, crs, etc. )


I'm a huge CLG fan but they always bitchslap any NA team excluding TSM/Dig. Does make me happy watching them beat Crs over and over though :D .
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 08 2012 07:30 GMT
#4964
Quick question, Lulu support, how should I level her skills?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:37:31
November 08 2012 07:36 GMT
#4965
R-Q- w or e depending on your preference

Def q max dont even try to max e and play her like janna, Qs dmg early on pretty insane and u only need e to make sure it hits
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:40:08
November 08 2012 07:37 GMT
#4966
On November 08 2012 16:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question, Lulu support, how should I level her skills?


R>Q>E>W with one in W early if its a harassable lane

Be really aggressive

if its gonna end up REALLY passive then you can go R>E>W>Q with one Q early and hope for ganks
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:46:57
November 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#4967
On November 08 2012 16:37 sob3k wrote:
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On November 08 2012 16:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quick question, Lulu support, how should I level her skills?


R>Q>E>W with one in W early if its a harassable lane

Be really aggressive

if its gonna end up REALLY passive then you can go R>E>W>Q with one Q early and hope for ganks

depends on match up.
edit: holy crap, im tired. but ye, q first for harass, dont pick her into lane that you cant poke at any way, waste of support pick <.<
Chun-li since ST
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
November 08 2012 07:54 GMT
#4968
A little off topic, but does it annoy anyone else when people put in R above the other skills? Like is that really necessary? Besides maybe Heimer, who do you not priortize your ult on? Seems redundant as shit to put R in front.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
November 08 2012 08:00 GMT
#4969
On November 08 2012 16:54 IMoperator wrote:
A little off topic, but does it annoy anyone else when people put in R above the other skills? Like is that really necessary? Besides maybe Heimer, who do you not priortize your ult on? Seems redundant as shit to put R in front.


AP Sion, Udry and it may be right to lvl q over r on Trist at some points.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 08 2012 08:00 GMT
#4970
On November 08 2012 16:54 IMoperator wrote:
A little off topic, but does it annoy anyone else when people put in R above the other skills? Like is that really necessary? Besides maybe Heimer, who do you not priortize your ult on? Seems redundant as shit to put R in front.


You'd be surprised, I had a friend that would argue up and down with me that most champs don't need ult at 6. He also would then tell me how he knows cause he is 1500 elo despite my knowing (cause he told me), he had his account boosted by friends.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11552 Posts
November 08 2012 08:00 GMT
#4971
Might as well give complete information, given that it's not exactly a lot of effort to put R before the others.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 08 2012 08:02 GMT
#4972
You can skip a point in ult on panth sometimes
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 08 2012 08:03 GMT
#4973
On November 08 2012 17:00 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 16:54 IMoperator wrote:
A little off topic, but does it annoy anyone else when people put in R above the other skills? Like is that really necessary? Besides maybe Heimer, who do you not priortize your ult on? Seems redundant as shit to put R in front.


AP Sion, Udry and it may be right to lvl q over r on Trist at some points.


Janna. Sometimes.

Freeeeeeedom
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
November 08 2012 08:14 GMT
#4974
I've heard trynd not uping his ult after the first point until the end
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
November 08 2012 08:15 GMT
#4975
Maokai, Jayce, MF, Ryze, and Trundle all can delay or skip some ranks of their ultimate depending on the situation.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
November 08 2012 08:24 GMT
#4976
On November 08 2012 14:27 D u o wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 14:17 jadoth wrote:
On November 08 2012 14:09 D u o wrote:
On November 08 2012 14:05 jadoth wrote:
On November 08 2012 14:02 D u o wrote:
On November 08 2012 13:56 Roffles wrote:
Who's this commentator that's trying to justify his pronunciation of Zhonyas as Jonyas because of the Chinese language? Since when has Zhonyas become a Chinese word? Absolutely fuckin dumb.

^ so true

I just laugh at the fact that he said its in Chinese, when did Chinese become a language? Dx brain hurt


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_language

A very very long time ago.


"The Chinese language (汉语/漢語 Hànyǔ; 华语/華語 Huáyǔ; 中文 Zhōngwén) is a language or language family consisting of varieties which are mutually intelligible to varying degrees"

"Chinese" doesn't exist as a language, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_China in which your page directly linked me.

Standard Mandarin is the official Chinese language but it isn't called "Chinese."


"The languages most studied and supported by the state include Chinese, Mongolian, Tibetan, Uyghur and Zhuang."

Click on the link that says "Chinese" in that sentence and it'll take you to the languages of China. Lmao Chinese isn't a language it is a family of languages. =___=

According to English dictionaries, "Chinese" is a valid term for the official language of China. People need to stop being tryhards and whine about language use which isn't technically incorrect.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 08 2012 08:25 GMT
#4977
On November 08 2012 17:15 GreenManalishi wrote:
Maokai, Jayce, MF, Ryze, and Trundle all can delay or skip some ranks of their ultimate depending on the situation.

Trundle, lol.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone skip ult ranks on Maokai since the mana cost became flat. When he first came out, it was sort of reasonable because of how aggressively the mana cost scaled, but now that it's flat, I'd rather have 10 seconds off ult CD than 0.25s W root duration in all scenarios.
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GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
November 08 2012 08:37 GMT
#4978
On November 08 2012 17:25 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 17:15 GreenManalishi wrote:
Maokai, Jayce, MF, Ryze, and Trundle all can delay or skip some ranks of their ultimate depending on the situation.

Trundle, lol.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone skip ult ranks on Maokai since the mana cost became flat. When he first came out, it was sort of reasonable because of how aggressively the mana cost scaled, but now that it's flat, I'd rather have 10 seconds off ult CD than 0.25s W root duration in all scenarios.

Eh, I am no Maokai expert, but I could see putting that point into a skill that gives him better clear speed if dragon is down or the lanes are all losing.

It sounds like a bad example by me, I remember people used to delay ranking it up, but I don't play Maokai.
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
November 08 2012 08:43 GMT
#4979
Loco shouldn't have left MadLife... I was looking forward to more homosexual tinted fanfiction.
TEEHEE
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
November 08 2012 08:53 GMT
#4980
On November 08 2012 14:49 TheSinisterRed wrote:
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On November 08 2012 14:22 obesechicken13 wrote:
On November 08 2012 14:20 gtrsrs wrote:
actually to snowball on what i was saying
i don't really think xypherous really understands the changes too well based on this post:

question asker
Quote:
How to win as wukong? Just rune and mastery for as much flat armor penetration as you possibly can, and get Black cleaver after picking up an armor pen item. 140 armor bruiser giving your team problems? NOPE. SUFFER ALL TEH DAMAGES


xypherous
Well - Yeah. But then you run up into a 3k HP Mundo/Singed with 80~ armor and massive regeneration and you're like 'Wait a second, you didn't build any armor! ABORT. ABORT. I REGRET EVERYTHING.'


That's actually pretty funny

I have nothing against the math itself but monkey king's ult has too good of a max scaling to use as a baseline of all bruisers. I haven't checked the math though. Last time I talked about GA, a few days later there was an announcement of it getting nerfed. It probably wasn't me that caused it but now I'm paranoid about sharing.

Also you mention 16 damage on dorans blade. Is dblade getting a nerf?

I understand the point he is making, and it is a good point, Riot doesn't seem to have a full grasp of what this might do, but nothing is set in stone yet so hopefully things will change. The only problem I have with that scenario is that I don't see anything after Wukong's ult hitting Singed. You just pop ult, flip them, and huehuehue away.


singed is very strong vs wukong as strange that may sound. dps itemization doesnt help there
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