• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:04
CET 17:04
KST 01:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview3RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion3Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 104
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1252 users

[Patch 1.0.0.150: Shadow Isles] General Discussion - Page…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 237 238 239 240 241 310 Next
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 07 2012 22:35 GMT
#4761
On November 08 2012 07:30 Nos- wrote:
LOL playing solo queue, ban guy calls bot, I pick Vayne mid cause I want to practice AD. Some guy says "ah the new meta, fuck shit up." No on rages. This is great.

So I guess everyone on your team has gotten the reward that they were going for already?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 07 2012 22:36 GMT
#4762
sheen doesn't splash with tiamat
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
November 07 2012 22:47 GMT
#4763
On November 08 2012 07:36 UniversalSnip wrote:
sheen doesn't splash with tiamat

The splash damage will also apply a percentage of total physical damage dealt, hence Sheen proc will also be accounted for the splash.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Tiamat
BW -> League -> CSGO
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 07 2012 22:51 GMT
#4764
On November 08 2012 07:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Oh my word, Mantheon Bruta->Black Cleaver rush is going to be a thing now. BC now builds out of Bruta and reduces armour by 5% each time you do physical damage. So Pantheon Heartseeker Strike will proc it 3 times for 15% armour reduction. @.@

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31158007#post31158007

Corki, lol.

I heard you like Armor Shred so I put some Armor Shred on your Armor Shred so you can shred armor while you shred armor.
Moderator
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 22:52:56
November 07 2012 22:52 GMT
#4765
Look up the link: it says that Tiamat splashes when the damage dealt by the autoattack is 100% magical. Turns out Poppy's Q turn all damage dealt into magical (including her normal AD and the sheen proc).
I was saying that jokingly anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14075 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 22:58:24
November 07 2012 22:55 GMT
#4766
On November 08 2012 07:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 07:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Oh my word, Mantheon Bruta->Black Cleaver rush is going to be a thing now. BC now builds out of Bruta and reduces armour by 5% each time you do physical damage. So Pantheon Heartseeker Strike will proc it 3 times for 15% armour reduction. @.@

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31158007#post31158007

Corki, lol.

I heard you like Armor Shred so I put some Armor Shred on your Armor Shred so you can shred armor while you shred armor.


Corki taric support jarvan jungle wukong mid kayle (splash damaging on top of all the armor reduc) top.

where is your god now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 07 2012 22:58 GMT
#4767
On November 08 2012 07:55 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 07:51 TheYango wrote:
On November 08 2012 07:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Oh my word, Mantheon Bruta->Black Cleaver rush is going to be a thing now. BC now builds out of Bruta and reduces armour by 5% each time you do physical damage. So Pantheon Heartseeker Strike will proc it 3 times for 15% armour reduction. @.@

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31158007#post31158007

Corki, lol.

I heard you like Armor Shred so I put some Armor Shred on your Armor Shred so you can shred armor while you shred armor.


Corki taric support jarvan jungle wukong mid kayle (splash damaging on top of all the armor reduc) top.

where is your god now.

stacking warmogs probably
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 07 2012 23:03 GMT
#4768
hum, so it does
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 07 2012 23:03 GMT
#4769
On November 08 2012 07:55 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 07:51 TheYango wrote:
On November 08 2012 07:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Oh my word, Mantheon Bruta->Black Cleaver rush is going to be a thing now. BC now builds out of Bruta and reduces armour by 5% each time you do physical damage. So Pantheon Heartseeker Strike will proc it 3 times for 15% armour reduction. @.@

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31158007#post31158007

Corki, lol.

I heard you like Armor Shred so I put some Armor Shred on your Armor Shred so you can shred armor while you shred armor.


Corki taric support jarvan jungle wukong mid kayle (splash damaging on top of all the armor reduc) top.

where is your god now.


Also reduction will work like penetration in S3: % first, then flat.

I wouldn't be surprised if Corki becomes an assassin in S3.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 07 2012 23:03 GMT
#4770
On November 08 2012 07:55 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 07:51 TheYango wrote:
On November 08 2012 07:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Oh my word, Mantheon Bruta->Black Cleaver rush is going to be a thing now. BC now builds out of Bruta and reduces armour by 5% each time you do physical damage. So Pantheon Heartseeker Strike will proc it 3 times for 15% armour reduction. @.@

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31158007#post31158007

Corki, lol.

I heard you like Armor Shred so I put some Armor Shred on your Armor Shred so you can shred armor while you shred armor.


Corki taric support jarvan jungle wukong mid kayle (splash damaging on top of all the armor reduc) top.

where is your god now.

Just run a jarvan/corki lane outrigh lol
Cackle™
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 23:06:06
November 07 2012 23:04 GMT
#4771
Yeah the new BC at first glance for me seems better for AD carries than for AD casters. Consider DoT spells that will multi-proc the effect:

- Corki's E (flat and % shred in an AoE--this is going to be bonkers)
- Draven (passive procs continually refresh and reapply the shred)
- Sivir (Q and W spread the debuff liberally across the entire enemy team)
- Twitch (Ult to BC everyone, then use a mega-Expunge to use the shred)
- Urgot's E (DoT refreshes and reapplies the shred, while also adding it's own % shred)

The idea that this item will help AD casters more than AD carries is laughable, because far more AD carries have spells that synergize with it--not to mention it effectively solved the question for AD carries of "why not get Bruta?" because now it has an endgame build path.
Moderator
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#4772
Brutalizer first Ad carries at last!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
November 07 2012 23:05 GMT
#4773
Support Rammus. I done theorycrafting and sounds unstoppable. I am not going to explain since I am sure you guys have discussed this in depth before.

However, like most theories, they are full of shit. Please explain to me why Support Rammus is a bad pick overall.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 07 2012 23:06 GMT
#4774
What am I watching?? CLG scrimming and not at eachother's throats constantly?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 23:08:44
November 07 2012 23:06 GMT
#4775
It seems like it'd be better even bought on a supporty champ with numerous physical damage sources so he can shred people then the carry cleans up. MF's ult will stack it on top of the enemy team though, now just get some AoE nuke there (Pantheon as a late game peeler: MF ult, then you stun->HSS anyone that tries to get to her for 1k damage).

On November 08 2012 08:05 Shiragaku wrote:
Support Rammus. I done theorycrafting and sounds unstoppable. I am not going to explain since I am sure you guys have discussed this in depth before.

However, like most theories, they are full of shit. Please explain to me why Support Rammus is a bad pick overall.

No poke, no sustain, if you taunt an opponent you basically condemn yourself (unless you can somehow taunt -> powerball and escape the gank too but I doubt it), DBC isn't a powerful enough defensive steroid to make you lost without farm.
It's like support Anivia: get a chalice on her and she's godly in teamfights/pushes. But in lane she sucks.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 07 2012 23:07 GMT
#4776
On November 08 2012 08:05 Shiragaku wrote:
Support Rammus. I done theorycrafting and sounds unstoppable. I am not going to explain since I am sure you guys have discussed this in depth before.

However, like most theories, they are full of shit. Please explain to me why Support Rammus is a bad pick overall.

Coz if you are gonna run a gimmicky support with a insanely long disable might as well run fiddle who can cast it at range and has a silence on top of that.
Cackle™
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 07 2012 23:10 GMT
#4777
On November 08 2012 08:06 Alaric wrote:
It seems like it'd be better even bought on a supporty champ with numerous physical damage sources so he can shred people then the carry cleans up. MF's ult will stack it on top of the enemy team though, now just get some AoE nuke there (Pantheon as a late game peeler: MF ult, then you stun->HSS anyone that tries to get to her for 1k damage).


I don't think that's likely. Not only is there currently NO supports who can deal physical damage beside autoattacking, they either do not have the range or do not have the attack speed to feasibly auto a target so many times to make BC worthwhile. This is going to be almost strictly a bruiser item.

I am a little worried about how this will work on Corki and Draven though. It might make Corki into an assassin and make Draven nearly unstoppable.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 07 2012 23:11 GMT
#4778
They said 45 minutes ago that they were bringing EUW back up. Turns out it oscillates between "busy" and "online", and when "online" you get thrown out without even a login queue. Well.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
November 07 2012 23:12 GMT
#4779
On November 08 2012 08:10 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 08:06 Alaric wrote:
It seems like it'd be better even bought on a supporty champ with numerous physical damage sources so he can shred people then the carry cleans up. MF's ult will stack it on top of the enemy team though, now just get some AoE nuke there (Pantheon as a late game peeler: MF ult, then you stun->HSS anyone that tries to get to her for 1k damage).


I don't think that's likely. Not only is there currently NO supports who can deal physical damage beside autoattacking, they either do not have the range or do not have the attack speed to feasibly auto a target so many times to make BC worthwhile. This is going to be almost strictly a bruiser item.

I am a little worried about how this will work on Corki and Draven though. It might make Corki into an assassin and make Draven nearly unstoppable.


support Jarven man. It isn't that bad.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 07 2012 23:13 GMT
#4780
On November 08 2012 08:12 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 08:10 Sufficiency wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:06 Alaric wrote:
It seems like it'd be better even bought on a supporty champ with numerous physical damage sources so he can shred people then the carry cleans up. MF's ult will stack it on top of the enemy team though, now just get some AoE nuke there (Pantheon as a late game peeler: MF ult, then you stun->HSS anyone that tries to get to her for 1k damage).


I don't think that's likely. Not only is there currently NO supports who can deal physical damage beside autoattacking, they either do not have the range or do not have the attack speed to feasibly auto a target so many times to make BC worthwhile. This is going to be almost strictly a bruiser item.

I am a little worried about how this will work on Corki and Draven though. It might make Corki into an assassin and make Draven nearly unstoppable.


support Jarven man. It isn't that bad.


J4 has only one non-ultimate spell that does physical damage. Also he already has 15% armor reduction.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Prev 1 237 238 239 240 241 310 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 57m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko698
IndyStarCraft 230
SteadfastSC 200
BRAT_OK 122
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9363
Rain 3152
Horang2 2703
EffOrt 1144
BeSt 1056
Zeus 953
Rush 416
ggaemo 295
firebathero 248
Mong 196
[ Show more ]
Hyun 102
Hm[arnc] 81
Mind 77
Aegong 50
Nal_rA 43
Free 40
Shuttle 38
Barracks 35
JYJ 29
Terrorterran 24
ToSsGirL 23
Sexy 23
HiyA 20
Rock 20
scan(afreeca) 15
SilentControl 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
GoRush 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5023
qojqva2519
syndereN389
Counter-Strike
fl0m2262
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor314
Other Games
Grubby2697
singsing1872
B2W.Neo1414
Beastyqt579
crisheroes442
Hui .247
KnowMe97
Liquid`Hasu65
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2634
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 1126
WardiTV1020
Other Games
EGCTV643
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3379
• TFBlade1040
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
3h 57m
BSL 21
3h 57m
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
All-Star Invitational
10h 12m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
herO vs Solar
Clem vs Reynor
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 57m
OSC
19h 57m
BSL 21
1d 3h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Wardi Open
1d 19h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.