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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 00:29:27
November 08 2012 00:29 GMT
#4801
On November 08 2012 09:12 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 08:39 TheYango wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:30 phyvo wrote:
Reducing the entire enemy team's armor sounds great but not when you're the AD carry who has the opportunity to buy ridiculously large AD damage multipliers like IE/PD/LW/BT. You'd much rather the assassin/bruiser got it and supported you. There's no reason for the AD carry in particular to be holding such a thing.

Other than the fact that an AD carry has the best chance of being able to practically finish it early (as melees typically have need for defensive itemization early), and it can enhance your early teamfight power?


Why would you want to finish it early? % reduction is terrible early. It's worse early than current BC in every way except in massive AoE situations (like MF + Talon), and no one even builds current BC. It's not an early game item any more than LW. Just because it can affect the whole enemy team does not mean it is powerful early game.


Assuming the stats remain as they are, it's important to note that building Brutalizer into Black Cleaver only yields +20 AD and the passive. There's no mention of Attack Speed at all, and no increase in the Flat Armor Penetration or CDR. Depending on the cost, and other trends in itemization, this item's usefulness for AD carries early on is potentially very limited.

It's very hard to judge for certain because there are too many changes coming in Season 3. This is like looking at the new design for a window and attempting to extrapolate the entire blueprint for a house. The possibilities, however, are intriguing.

inb4 Wukong + Talon + Corki mega-AoE.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 08 2012 01:08 GMT
#4802
Aaand back to "EUW is up" meaning "it's set on busy and when it becomes online it doesn't let you attempt to log in". Why can't they be more precise with their status messages? x_x
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 08 2012 01:08 GMT
#4803
lol with the new BC Corki's E is going to basically going to shred people's armor to 0 all the time.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 01:48:16
November 08 2012 01:10 GMT
#4804
What was the final score between the CLG and Fear scrims?

Darn NESL, making me choose between CLG vs. CLG B and Crs vs. Fear.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 08 2012 01:27 GMT
#4805
On November 08 2012 10:08 Alaric wrote:
Aaand back to "EUW is up" meaning "it's set on busy and when it becomes online it doesn't let you attempt to log in". Why can't they be more precise with their status messages? x_x



they probably have given up working on it fast since most people ar e asleep right now and cant cause trouble on reddit/forums.

i mean, the last twitter status was like 3 hours ago "servers are up" and between that and now there were 2 more downtimes and constant busy status.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 08 2012 01:40 GMT
#4806
On November 08 2012 10:10 beefhamburger wrote:
What was the final score between the CLG and Fear scrims?

2-1 for CLG.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 08 2012 01:41 GMT
#4807
Who is Fear's toplaner? Did they go with Zuna?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
November 08 2012 01:45 GMT
#4808
On November 08 2012 10:41 HazMat wrote:
Who is Fear's toplaner? Did they go with Zuna?

He will be their toplaner for atleast IPL5 possibly longer.
washed
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 01:45:55
November 08 2012 01:45 GMT
#4809
On November 08 2012 10:41 HazMat wrote:
Who is Fear's toplaner? Did they go with Zuna?

I think so.
Not sure if he's top, pretty sure he's on the team.

Or what flatnick said.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 08 2012 01:48 GMT
#4810
So is CLG.b dead?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#4811
I really want Curse vent when Saint does something silly.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 01:54:01
November 08 2012 01:50 GMT
#4812
Nyjacky confirmed better jungler than Saint

Edit: Good guy Xmithie baiting his team into unwinnable fights. Xmithie has has some good games, and some absoutely awful games
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
November 08 2012 01:53 GMT
#4813
What happened? On phone can't watch TT
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 08 2012 01:53 GMT
#4814
Xmithie is so bad. Just hist positioning is horribru.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
November 08 2012 01:53 GMT
#4815
On November 08 2012 10:50 Amethyst21 wrote:
Nyjacky confirmed better jungler than Saint

Confirmed on saint's stream?
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 08 2012 01:54 GMT
#4816
FeaR throwing this game harder than Randy Johnson.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 08 2012 01:55 GMT
#4817
On November 08 2012 10:53 ExoFun wrote:
Xmithie is so bad. Just hist positioning is horribru.


I spoke about it recently, seems nobody took notice.

On November 03 2012 00:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
Not player bashing, but isn't Xmithie quite bad for pro level? He feels like a Lapaka to me, focuses on certain champions, which he can play proficiently, but has bad overall mechanics. I know the NA scene is weak but there's probably better junglers, right?

Hey! How you doin'?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2012 01:56 GMT
#4818
What stream is this?
It's your boy Guzma!
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
November 08 2012 01:56 GMT
#4819
On November 08 2012 10:56 Requizen wrote:
What stream is this?


http://www.solomid.net/livestream.php?s=1509
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
November 08 2012 01:59 GMT
#4820
On November 08 2012 10:55 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 10:53 ExoFun wrote:
Xmithie is so bad. Just hist positioning is horribru.


I spoke about it recently, seems nobody took notice.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 00:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
Not player bashing, but isn't Xmithie quite bad for pro level? He feels like a Lapaka to me, focuses on certain champions, which he can play proficiently, but has bad overall mechanics. I know the NA scene is weak but there's probably better junglers, right?


Not only mechanics. His thinking is off he goes in when its obvious suicide. So sad that these kind of players are gonna be the "PRO's" in season 3.
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