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Amui
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Koenig99
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arb
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FindMeInKenya
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Zdrastochye
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TheYango
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Next patch: GA gives no stats and is no longer buyable, but revives you with full health and mana. Dropped by Baron and disappears when you are revived or Baron respawns.  | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:28 TheYango wrote: Next patch: GA gives no stats and is no longer buyable, but revives you with full health and mana. Dropped by Baron and disappears when you are revived or Baron respawns. And now try to spell "Nashor" backwards... | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:28 TheYango wrote: Next patch: GA gives no stats and is no longer buyable, but revives you with full health and mana. Dropped by Baron and disappears when you are revived or Baron respawns. Oh boy it'll be just like DotA! cant wait /sarcasm | ||
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iCanada
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Requizen
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http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31162149#31162149 Xyph thinks that BC will never be built on AD carries despite what was said in this thread. I think it has to do with the low AD on it compared to actual AD items like BT/IE. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:29 EquilasH wrote: And now try to spell "Nashor" backwards... Gotta swap S and H, my initials. ^_^ | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:34 Requizen wrote: A bit late on BC discussion: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=31162149#31162149 Xyph thinks that BC will never be built on AD carries despite what was said in this thread. I think it has to do with the low AD on it compared to actual AD items like BT/IE. If the item is cost-effective, it will be bought. If it isn't, it won't. The stat mix isn't so skewed toward the needs of one role over another that it will magically be good for AD casters but suck for AD carries. If it doesn't give enough AD, it will suck for everyone, not just for AD carries. In terms of raw stat value, it's actually worth more for an AD carry than for a melee, since it's much easier for an AD carry to actually proc the passive. Any belief that the item is weak for AD carries stems from some misguided conception that flat pen and CDR are low-value stats for AD carries. But prior to this, there's never actually been an appropriate item that actually provides the mentioned stats slot-efficiently (Ghostblade is poor lategame because the active is of limited usefulness to a ranged hero because of how the duration-increase proc only works for melees--so Bruta never had a practical followup until now). At best you can say nobody's played with the stats enough to say how slot-effective they are lategame, and at worst you can say they're horribly undervalued. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:29 EquilasH wrote: And now try to spell "Nashor" backwards... wait wait wait, my mind is blown. Was this intentional?! can't believe I missed this all this time | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:42 Live2Win wrote: wait wait wait, my mind is blown. Was this intentional?! Well, seeing as Roshan was originally named by Guinsoo after his bowling ball, probably yes. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:40 TheYango wrote: If the item is cost-effective, it will be bought. If it isn't, it won't. The stat mix isn't so skewed toward the needs of one role over another that it will magically be good for AD casters but suck for AD carries. If it doesn't give enough AD, it will suck for everyone, not just for AD carries. In terms of raw stat value, it's actually worth more for an AD carry than for a melee, since it's much easier for an AD carry to actually proc the passive. Any belief that the item is weak for AD carries stems from some misguided conception that flat pen and CDR are low-value stats for AD carries. But prior to this, there's never actually been an appropriate item that actually provides the mentioned stats slot-efficiently (Ghostblade is poor lategame because the active is of limited usefulness to a ranged hero because of how the duration-increase proc only works for melees--so Bruta never had a practical followup until now). At best you can say nobody's played with the stats enough to say how slot-effective they are lategame, and at worst you can say they're horribly undervalued. Well, it depends on the AD carry. What would Ashe, Cait, or Trist want with CDR late game? More escapes? Sure, I guess you might get one more knockback/net in a fight maybe. Ashe and Cait might get AoE off a bit more, but those fall off later on and aren't used anyway. Is it good? Perhaps, but would you buy it on them over even current IE? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
A lot of this is pointless theorycraft too. From the itemization preview it sounds like nearly every item is getting a numbers tweak of some sort. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:44 Requizen wrote: Is it good? Perhaps, but would you buy it on them over even current IE? Depends on the situations, different strengths and weaknesses. One thing to point out that building up through Brutalizer is WAY smoother than going through BF Sword. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 08 2012 11:40 TheYango wrote: If the item is cost-effective, it will be bought. If it isn't, it won't. The stat mix isn't so skewed toward the needs of one role over another that it will magically be good for AD casters but suck for AD carries. If it doesn't give enough AD, it will suck for everyone, not just for AD carries. In terms of raw stat value, it's actually worth more for an AD carry than for a melee, since it's much easier for an AD carry to actually proc the passive. Any belief that the item is weak for AD carries stems from some misguided conception that flat pen and CDR are low-value stats for AD carries. But prior to this, there's never actually been an appropriate item that actually provides the mentioned stats slot-efficiently (Ghostblade is poor lategame because the active is of limited usefulness to a ranged hero because of how the duration-increase proc only works for melees--so Bruta never had a practical followup until now). At best you can say nobody's played with the stats enough to say how slot-effective they are lategame, and at worst you can say they're horribly undervalued. What Xyph saying is that in terms of slot efficiency it makes more sence for AD to just have Lastwhisper because dont need the CDR and then they just get more overall penetration. Makes more sense for top laner or Jungler to have arather than AD because AD can have same armor pen from someone else having the BC but also get LW's armor pen... not to mention in terms of slot efficiency LW makes more sense. The selling point to new BC is getting Bruta's early dominance then not being taxed late game from selling Bruta and buying LW. A Pantheon still going to want a really early Bruta, just now slot doesn't become useless once people have armor. Idea is to buff AD casters late game by making their items scale slightly better. | ||
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Amethyst21
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