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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 08 2012 02:55 GMT
#4861
On November 08 2012 11:52 iCanada wrote:
What Xyph saying is that in terms of slot efficiency it makes more sence for AD to just have Lastwhisper because dont need the CDR and then they just get more overall penetration. Makes more sense for top laner or Jungler to have arather than AD because AD can have same armor pen from someone else having the BC but also get LW's armor pen... not to mention in terms of slot efficiency LW makes more sense.

The selling point to new BC is getting Bruta's early dominance then not being taxed late game from selling Bruta and buying LW. A Pantheon still going to want a really early Bruta, just now slot doesn't become useless once people have armor. Idea is to buff AD casters late game by making their items scale slightly better.

That's a very hard balancing point to reach without accidentally tipping over the point where one of the items is just better than the other for everyone.

It's not like Brutalizer is weak for AD carries early game.
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
November 08 2012 02:55 GMT
#4862
Cop getting shit on. lol
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:05:53
November 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#4863
On November 08 2012 11:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 11:52 iCanada wrote:
What Xyph saying is that in terms of slot efficiency it makes more sence for AD to just have Lastwhisper because dont need the CDR and then they just get more overall penetration. Makes more sense for top laner or Jungler to have arather than AD because AD can have same armor pen from someone else having the BC but also get LW's armor pen... not to mention in terms of slot efficiency LW makes more sense.

The selling point to new BC is getting Bruta's early dominance then not being taxed late game from selling Bruta and buying LW. A Pantheon still going to want a really early Bruta, just now slot doesn't become useless once people have armor. Idea is to buff AD casters late game by making their items scale slightly better.

That's a very hard balancing point to reach without accidentally tipping over the point where one of the items is just better than the other for everyone.

It's not like Brutalizer is weak for AD carries early game.


If anything Brutalizer is stronger in botlane on an AD carry than it is top lane on an AD caster. Even now and especially after the changes to armor pen.

It's just that after lane phase is over what do you do with that brutalizer?

Also, wait, Tiamat is physical damage right? So new BC applies passive to Tiamat procs...
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:06:07
November 08 2012 03:05 GMT
#4864
On November 08 2012 11:55 Amethyst21 wrote:
Aphromoo makes Draven look hilariously OP.. Poor Cop, never had a chance


I'd actually rate Cop as a top tier AD (Least, from NA anyways, not like he's a korean AD who's name isn't Woong) but Elementz is just playing Lulu quite poorly. No presence. Fiddle is a scary support to play vs, can't just let him run all over you.

It's just that after lane phase is over what do you do with that brutalizer?


Hit their AP mid for true damage?
Hey! How you doin'?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 08 2012 03:10 GMT
#4865
Voyboy such a huge boon for Crs. Draws power top, gives Saint ability to just farm hard. Saint counterjungling and being obnoxious makes it easy for Voyboy to be really aggressive.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
November 08 2012 03:11 GMT
#4866
On November 08 2012 12:05 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 11:55 Amethyst21 wrote:
Aphromoo makes Draven look hilariously OP.. Poor Cop, never had a chance


I'd actually rate Cop as a top tier AD (Least, from NA anyways, not like he's a korean AD who's name isn't Woong) but Elementz is just playing Lulu quite poorly. No presence. Fiddle is a scary support to play vs, can't just let him run all over you.

Show nested quote +
It's just that after lane phase is over what do you do with that brutalizer?


Hit their AP mid for true damage?


I'm a big Cop fan, and I agree on Elementz's Lulu play especially when he got first blood. But Aphro's Draven is scary as all hell.

Curse doing a great job of roaming around and getting kills. Draven going to have to be really lucky to get away from both fed Jax and Olaf.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 08 2012 03:12 GMT
#4867
Lol, FeaR winning a teamfight in which their AP isn't connected. stronk
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 08 2012 03:16 GMT
#4868
On November 08 2012 12:12 HazMat wrote:
Lol, FeaR winning a teamfight in which their AP isn't connected. stronk


Get on FeaR, Aphro already thinks Xmithie is weak. Your Lee > his Lee. Collect pesos.
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:20:02
November 08 2012 03:17 GMT
#4869
ROFL THESE CASTERS.

ONE PLUGS IN THEIR TWITTER INFO

THEN OTHER GUY GO "MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS GAME.."

gggg

Xmithie so bad btw
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 08 2012 03:20 GMT
#4870
On November 08 2012 12:16 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:12 HazMat wrote:
Lol, FeaR winning a teamfight in which their AP isn't connected. stronk


Get on FeaR, Aphro already thinks Xmithie is weak. Your Lee > his Lee. Collect pesos.

That Lee just went in balls deep lolol.
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 03:21:59
November 08 2012 03:20 GMT
#4871
Xmithie is good for one terrible dive per game

Also : One caster makes me claw my eyes out, the other one seems pretty competent. TL casting golems where art thou!
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
November 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#4872
Xmithie can't even ward jump over a wall that you can ward jump over -_-
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
November 08 2012 03:29 GMT
#4873
On November 08 2012 12:28 Frost wrote:
Xmithie can't even ward jump over a wall that you can ward jump over -_-


Yeah that was bad getting caught but he couldnt jump cause he got polymorphed not cause he cant jump lol
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
November 08 2012 03:31 GMT
#4874
On November 08 2012 12:29 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 12:28 Frost wrote:
Xmithie can't even ward jump over a wall that you can ward jump over -_-


Yeah that was bad getting caught but he couldnt jump cause he got polymorphed not cause he cant jump lol


He could've definitely done the ward jump before polymorph happened. It's just his ward jump attempt was so slow
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#4875
Saint's smite is up :D
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Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
November 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#4876
And Xmithie fails baron steal smite and decides to ward jump back out when Zuna is ulting on him for a taunt
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 08 2012 03:34 GMT
#4877
On November 08 2012 12:33 HazMat wrote:
Saint's smite is up :D


To be fair, so is Xmithies.
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
November 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#4878
That Nyjacky throw lol
ChoBz
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada836 Posts
November 08 2012 03:35 GMT
#4879
aphro op
ChoBz
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 08 2012 03:36 GMT
#4880
Damn, that was huuge throw.
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