• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:34
CET 08:34
KST 16:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 RyongYi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)1Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
$21,000 RyongYi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1447 users

[Patch 1.0.0.147: Syndra] General Discussion - Page 65

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 63 64 65 66 67 206 Next
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:28:38
September 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#1281
On September 17 2012 02:02 greggy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 01:09 Nikon wrote:
On September 17 2012 00:53 Dark_Chill wrote:
On September 17 2012 00:49 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On September 16 2012 23:20 Nikon wrote:
Yeah, but what happens when you HAVE to play mid or top for example? You dodge? Some games I have to do spot X, just because everything else gets taken, and in those games I look like a fool. That's the main purpose behind looking at my champ pool, and playing more champions as such.

You learn two champions for each role. If you have to mid, you take one of the two mid champions you can play.


I found that you could just main support. Always call support. No one will contest. Ever.


But doing just one role gets so fucking repetitive. Not to mention that I play support in most of my games.


I have played ap mid literally once in my whole ranked career (as ap yi) and maybe 5 times in normals. I have yi and ryze as the only heroes that are viable aps. You can call 'anything but' in the select and you'll get by 99.9% of the time. That said, you'll probably be forced into support if you do that.


unless it's "anything but support". Jungle isn't 99,9% either. If you ask for anything but mid of course it's 99,9%

now that I read the quotes too I probably anwered way out of context lol.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 17:44:26
September 16 2012 17:29 GMT
#1282
On September 17 2012 01:58 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 01:43 TheKefka wrote:
The mid lane situation in solo q is just dire right now.Fucking chogaths,ap teemos and eves all over the place.


Give them the good ol' Kassadin to the face.

Lol you send kassadin against any of those you'll get shit on.Not sure about eve don't play her.
On September 17 2012 02:15 Craton wrote:
I've played against Eve mid and I can't figure out why people keep picking her.

Eve is just one huge mejai's.If she gets rolling she will 2 shot anything on the field.If not shes meh.Also she's one of the best roamers right now so that's pretty annoying.
She's kinda like ap rengar,I didn't believe in him either until one annihilated me and the support in one combo.
Cackle™
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
September 16 2012 17:41 GMT
#1283
Garen got reworked? How does he work now?
Elegance, in all things.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 16 2012 17:42 GMT
#1284
On September 17 2012 02:27 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:02 greggy wrote:
On September 17 2012 01:09 Nikon wrote:
On September 17 2012 00:53 Dark_Chill wrote:
On September 17 2012 00:49 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On September 16 2012 23:20 Nikon wrote:
Yeah, but what happens when you HAVE to play mid or top for example? You dodge? Some games I have to do spot X, just because everything else gets taken, and in those games I look like a fool. That's the main purpose behind looking at my champ pool, and playing more champions as such.

You learn two champions for each role. If you have to mid, you take one of the two mid champions you can play.


I found that you could just main support. Always call support. No one will contest. Ever.


But doing just one role gets so fucking repetitive. Not to mention that I play support in most of my games.


I have played ap mid literally once in my whole ranked career (as ap yi) and maybe 5 times in normals. I have yi and ryze as the only heroes that are viable aps. You can call 'anything but' in the select and you'll get by 99.9% of the time. That said, you'll probably be forced into support if you do that.


unless it's "anything but support". Jungle isn't 99,9% either. If you ask for anything but mid of course it's 99,9%

now that I read the quotes too I probably anwered way out of context lol.

Eh, really just play anything you want. "Counters" are only counters if they know what they're doing. I‘ve FPed Ryze and ran into Cass, Brand and the like and still manage to win most of them. At the same time I've also lose to the silliest things like all AD team because my AD Ezreal think it's a brilliant idea to E into enemy team first just because we're ahead by 10 kills.

You're save yourself a lot of trouble (and stress) if you just play for fun and to learn instead of obsessing over winning so much. Of course, remember to mute anyone saying otherwise.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 16 2012 17:43 GMT
#1285
On September 17 2012 02:41 MeteorRise wrote:
Garen got reworked? How does he work now?

His rework made it so people still play something better.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 16 2012 18:17 GMT
#1286
On September 16 2012 17:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Does WOTA apply on on hit abilities, like Cho's E and Kayle's E?

cho's e isn't an on hit effect, it's a spell that casts, independently, every time you attack, which is not a distinction that makes sense but it's there. So it applies rylais and wota. Actual on hit effects like kayle e or teemo e don't.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 16 2012 18:30 GMT
#1287
On September 17 2012 03:17 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 17:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Does WOTA apply on on hit abilities, like Cho's E and Kayle's E?

cho's e isn't an on hit effect, it's a spell that casts, independently, every time you attack, which is not a distinction that makes sense but it's there. So it applies rylais and wota. Actual on hit effects like kayle e or teemo e don't.

I think kayle and teemo's E's do proc spell vamp.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 18:34:04
September 16 2012 18:33 GMT
#1288
On September 17 2012 03:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 03:17 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 16 2012 17:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Does WOTA apply on on hit abilities, like Cho's E and Kayle's E?

cho's e isn't an on hit effect, it's a spell that casts, independently, every time you attack, which is not a distinction that makes sense but it's there. So it applies rylais and wota. Actual on hit effects like kayle e or teemo e don't.

I think kayle and teemo's E's do proc spell vamp.

Teemo E doesn't according to the wiki.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
September 16 2012 18:35 GMT
#1289
anyone else watching TD vs TSM? or is it a rerun and i'm not seeing the sign?

1st game was basically battle of the mids, pretty fun to watch. Also yorick became god.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
September 16 2012 18:35 GMT
#1290
On September 17 2012 03:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 03:17 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 16 2012 17:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Does WOTA apply on on hit abilities, like Cho's E and Kayle's E?

cho's e isn't an on hit effect, it's a spell that casts, independently, every time you attack, which is not a distinction that makes sense but it's there. So it applies rylais and wota. Actual on hit effects like kayle e or teemo e don't.

I think kayle and teemo's E's do proc spell vamp.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/On-hit_effect

Teemo doesn't. Kayle's E applies spell vamp - but only to the splash damage. Its pretty much determined on a case by case basis.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 16 2012 18:39 GMT
#1291
On September 17 2012 03:35 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 03:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 17 2012 03:17 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 16 2012 17:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Does WOTA apply on on hit abilities, like Cho's E and Kayle's E?

cho's e isn't an on hit effect, it's a spell that casts, independently, every time you attack, which is not a distinction that makes sense but it's there. So it applies rylais and wota. Actual on hit effects like kayle e or teemo e don't.

I think kayle and teemo's E's do proc spell vamp.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/On-hit_effect

Teemo doesn't. Kayle's E applies spell vamp - but only to the splash damage. Its pretty much determined on a case by case basis.

Haha. Why make anything standardized in LoL?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 16 2012 19:18 GMT
#1292
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2012 19:23 GMT
#1293
Anyone getting trade errors? I can't seem to trade champs with other people.
liftlift > tsm
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 16 2012 19:35 GMT
#1294
On September 17 2012 04:18 HazMat wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uUYrR-I9D0#t=52s
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 16 2012 19:36 GMT
#1295
On September 17 2012 04:18 HazMat wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6uUYrR-I9D0#t=52s

Word of advice,turn down your volume before clicking the link.....
Cackle™
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2539 Posts
September 16 2012 19:48 GMT
#1296
On September 17 2012 02:41 MeteorRise wrote:
Garen got reworked? How does he work now?


He doesn't, they basically changed nothing. If an old champion isn't used frequently now, nothing is going to happen to them and they're going to stay shit.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 16 2012 20:03 GMT
#1297
On September 17 2012 04:48 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 02:41 MeteorRise wrote:
Garen got reworked? How does he work now?


He doesn't, they basically changed nothing. If an old champion isn't used frequently now, nothing is going to happen to them and they're going to stay shit.


This is probably the least true thing ever said on these forums. Tons of 'old' champions wax and wane in popularity. Sometimes without Riot even having to buff/nerf them. Various examples over the last year include Annie, Twisted Fate, Morgana, Urgot, Nunu, Ezreal, and tons more that I'm not even remembering. It really just depends on how you're defining old but all of those champions I listed are like 2+ years old and went from never played in competitive play to crazy popular. Annie and Urgot are already back to never really played after nerfs but both are perfectly viable.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2012 20:13 GMT
#1298


Is that reaction time actually humanly possible? o.o
liftlift > tsm
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 16 2012 20:15 GMT
#1299
On September 17 2012 05:03 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 04:48 Kaal wrote:
On September 17 2012 02:41 MeteorRise wrote:
Garen got reworked? How does he work now?


He doesn't, they basically changed nothing. If an old champion isn't used frequently now, nothing is going to happen to them and they're going to stay shit.


This is probably the least true thing ever said on these forums. Tons of 'old' champions wax and wane in popularity. Sometimes without Riot even having to buff/nerf them. Various examples over the last year include Annie, Twisted Fate, Morgana, Urgot, Nunu, Ezreal, and tons more that I'm not even remembering. It really just depends on how you're defining old but all of those champions I listed are like 2+ years old and went from never played in competitive play to crazy popular. Annie and Urgot are already back to never really played after nerfs but both are perfectly viable.


Shyv, Udyr, Malphite, Kog'Maw, Olaf, Ryze, Maokai, Karthus, WW, Shaco, Skarner, Yorick, Cass, Mundo, Blitzcrank, CHo'Gath....

Like the entire champion pool has randomly been really FotM / unplayed without buffs/nerfs.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
September 16 2012 20:17 GMT
#1300
On September 17 2012 05:13 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ImpLPU7aRQ&feature=relmfu

Is that reaction time actually humanly possible? o.o


I thought it was well-known that Doublelift has superhuman reflexes and mechanics?
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Prev 1 63 64 65 66 67 206 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 20h 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft515
Nina 169
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3783
Hyuk 1173
Shuttle 316
Pusan 256
Movie 150
EffOrt 108
soO 35
Noble 30
ZergMaN 27
sorry 21
[ Show more ]
Nal_rA 17
Bale 8
NotJumperer 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm98
League of Legends
JimRising 758
C9.Mang0541
Other Games
Fuzer 135
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick31704
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 86
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 28
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4579
• Scarra2651
• Rush1098
• Lourlo1003
• Stunt467
• HappyZerGling136
Upcoming Events
SOOP
20h 27m
SHIN vs GuMiho
Cure vs Creator
The PondCast
1d 2h
Wardi Open
1d 4h
Big Gabe XPERIONCRAFT
1d 5h
AI Arena Tournament
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
IPSL
2 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-06
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
Escore Tournament S1: W3
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.