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[Patch 1.0.0.147: Syndra] General Discussion - Page 193

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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
September 26 2012 05:56 GMT
#3841
No he wouldn't, wtf?

That would be so trivial to a game's outcome.
twitch.tv/cratonz
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 26 2012 05:58 GMT
#3842
Being able to deny a team 150 gold per character would be pretty broken.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 26 2012 05:59 GMT
#3843
On September 26 2012 14:58 overt wrote:
Being able to deny a team 150 gold per character would be pretty broken.


You don't get the gold because of the last hit...
Freeeeeeedom
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 26 2012 05:59 GMT
#3844
On September 26 2012 14:59 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 14:58 overt wrote:
Being able to deny a team 150 gold per character would be pretty broken.


You don't get the gold because of the last hit...


I didn't say you did. You deny the enemy team turret gold.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 26 2012 06:01 GMT
#3845
Or troll your team by destroying every one of your turrets l0l....
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 26 2012 06:05 GMT
#3846
denying tibbers was soooo goooood
Hey! Listen!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 26 2012 06:06 GMT
#3847
On September 26 2012 14:59 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 14:59 cLutZ wrote:
On September 26 2012 14:58 overt wrote:
Being able to deny a team 150 gold per character would be pretty broken.


You don't get the gold because of the last hit...


I didn't say you did. You deny the enemy team turret gold.


But...how? Is it coded like Dragon?

On September 26 2012 15:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
Or troll your team by destroying every one of your turrets l0l....


^Real reason you couldn't "deny" turrets.
Freeeeeeedom
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 26 2012 06:10 GMT
#3848
On September 26 2012 15:06 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 14:59 overt wrote:
On September 26 2012 14:59 cLutZ wrote:
On September 26 2012 14:58 overt wrote:
Being able to deny a team 150 gold per character would be pretty broken.


You don't get the gold because of the last hit...


I didn't say you did. You deny the enemy team turret gold.


But...how? Is it coded like Dragon?

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 15:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
Or troll your team by destroying every one of your turrets l0l....


^Real reason you couldn't "deny" turrets.


In DotA when you deny a turret the game is programmed to give out reduced gold for enemy heroes. Minions are coded to give reduced XP as well.

In LoL, GP's deny meant that no one got the XP or gold for minions he hit. Unless they specifically coded towers no one would get the gold for it. And even if they coded it to give a reduced amount he'd still be broken as shit since he'd be the only champ that could do it.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 26 2012 06:11 GMT
#3849
wow syndra is not as bad as i thought. people are just really really bad at landing her spells.
Hey! Listen!
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
September 26 2012 06:15 GMT
#3850
On September 26 2012 15:11 Navi wrote:
wow syndra is not as bad as i thought. people are just really really bad at landing her spells.


Her only problem is low damage and poor scaling
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
September 26 2012 06:24 GMT
#3851
On September 26 2012 15:15 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 15:11 Navi wrote:
wow syndra is not as bad as i thought. people are just really really bad at landing her spells.


Her only problem is low damage and poor scaling

That's not entirely true - she does suffer from a kit that's really hard to make work smoothly. The thing is, damage/scaling increases could help her because it would make her a bit more like Draven: extremely high theoretical max damage, but balanced because there's no practical chance of achieving it.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 26 2012 06:46 GMT
#3852
She suffers from a kit that requires an inordinate amount of setup time to be effective, and thus telegraphs most of what she's about to do. On top of that she has no passive for her first 8 levels ( and it's not like her early laning is in any sense good to make up for it) and her mana costs are pretty high. Low ratios, bad teamfight, mediocre laning, no passive, high mana costs, requires setup to get the most out of her spells, everything about her stinks of awful champ.

That said, the drag skill is neat.
Remember Violet.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 26 2012 07:07 GMT
#3853
Honestly though her laning phase is great. Beside a few bad match ups (Mordekaiser and Diana come to mind) Syndra does great in lane. It's her teamfight that's really difficult.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 26 2012 07:17 GMT
#3854
Syndra is so funny to play with friends, always pull buff never let him have it :>
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 26 2012 07:30 GMT
#3855
Man I don't know what people are so upset about.

Rengar is probably the most balanced champion in the history of the game.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 07:34:30
September 26 2012 07:32 GMT
#3856
Shit, just bought gragas yesterday and the guy's a monster. Got "countered" by Swain twice, beat them both times after I could farm with my Q. Insane aoe damage, and with DFG you can one shot just about anyone. How is he considered balanced?

EDIT: 4-0 with him so far. http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/32638477#history Also, you might notice that I like AP mid lol.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 26 2012 07:41 GMT
#3857
Because those are normal games.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 07:43:37
September 26 2012 07:41 GMT
#3858
Speaking of gragas specifically... anyone think he'd make a really decent support? Had one today fail but if you think about it, he has an attack speed debuff, a slow, and a decent initiation/disengage. Also, he's pretty damn beefy with his W. The more and more I think about it, the more legit it seems. I will test it out for a bit soon and tell you how it goes lol.


On September 26 2012 16:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Because those are normal games.


Hey don't trash talk normal games. My normal games are hard :<
BW -> League -> CSGO
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 26 2012 07:49 GMT
#3859
if you E you're dead
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
September 26 2012 08:04 GMT
#3860
Yeah 4 games on normal isnt really a proper sample. Gragas is good sure thing, but normals usually mean a lack of communication, both on your end and theirs. Ganks hardly come trough and ganks that do happen are more random then anything. A good jungler will wait till you E
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