On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
I actually bought Morgana recently just so I can first pick her for my team if necessary; I should try playing her, especially because I consider mid to be my worst role.
I feel like morg is kind of like a crutch for mid lane. Like yeah she can play mid. Pretty safely and aggressively at the same time too. But I don't feel like a better mid because of it.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
I actually bought Morgana recently just so I can first pick her for my team if necessary; I should try playing her, especially because I consider mid to be my worst role.
I feel like morg is kind of like a crutch for mid lane. Like yeah she can play mid. Pretty safely and aggressively at the same time too. But I don't feel like a better mid because of it.
Well, who do you recommend playing to learn mid? What about Brand? He's about the only mid I can do decent with on a consistent basis.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
I actually bought Morgana recently just so I can first pick her for my team if necessary; I should try playing her, especially because I consider mid to be my worst role.
I feel like morg is kind of like a crutch for mid lane. Like yeah she can play mid. Pretty safely and aggressively at the same time too. But I don't feel like a better mid because of it.
I don't see Morg as much of a crutch, but more of a powerful learning tool.
She's got a well balanced skillset that can teach you a lot about playing Mid lane. She can farm well, push well, roam well, teamfight well, provided you play correctly.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
Considering maxing q is the correct thing to do I think this post is hilarious. You level w until you can kill the range creeps with it then you max q so you can kill people.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
I actually bought Morgana recently just so I can first pick her for my team if necessary; I should try playing her, especially because I consider mid to be my worst role.
I feel like morg is kind of like a crutch for mid lane. Like yeah she can play mid. Pretty safely and aggressively at the same time too. But I don't feel like a better mid because of it.
Well, who do you recommend playing to learn mid? What about Brand? He's about the only mid I can do decent with on a consistent basis.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
Considering maxing q is the correct thing to do I think this post is hilarious. You level w until you can kill the range creeps with it then you max q so you can kill people.
Sorry, let me re-phrase.
I'm talking about people who skill Morg like
Q > W > Q > E > Q > R > Q > W > Q.........
There's nothing wrong with
Q > W > W > E > W > R > Q > Q > Q.........
How are you supposed get their / your wraith with 3 levels of W? Maxing W first is better for pushing mid.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
Considering maxing q is the correct thing to do I think this post is hilarious. You level w until you can kill the range creeps with it then you max q so you can kill people.
Sorry, let me re-phrase.
I'm talking about people who skill Morg like
Q > W > Q > E > Q > R > Q > W > Q.........
There's nothing wrong with
Q > W > W > E > W > R > Q > Q > Q.........
How are you supposed get their / your wraith with 3 levels of W? Maxing W first is better for pushing mid.
I agree. I play:
Q > W > E > W > W > R > W > Q > W
but I also tend to not roam as much as some Morgs who only take the first 3 points and then start prioritizing Q
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
Considering maxing q is the correct thing to do I think this post is hilarious. You level w until you can kill the range creeps with it then you max q so you can kill people.
Sorry, let me re-phrase.
I'm talking about people who skill Morg like
Q > W > Q > E > Q > R > Q > W > Q.........
There's nothing wrong with
Q > W > W > E > W > R > Q > Q > Q.........
How are you supposed get their / your wraith with 3 levels of W?
?
You can get Wraiths on three levels of W. As long as you don't fall behind in AP levels, should be easily done with 2-3 auto attacks. Not to mention you can still Bind the large one after the three small ones die to soil.
Q max after 3W is the "right" way to skill Morg if you want to maximize your burst. Going max W first isn't wrong either. It's really a play style issue.
To those who played Syndra: it states on her E that if she sends a sphere into an enemy, the latter will take damage and be stunned. Which damage? Q damage (as if you'd popped a sphere under him), E damage again, or something else? Also, if you send several sphere into them, do they take the damage for each sphere?
Edit: wiki says "The summoner spell, Teleport, is cancelled upon the target minion being placed in stasis. " about Force of Will. To bad it doesn't work on wards. :') "All affected spheres stun and deal magic damage to all enemy units they collide with. Any enemy units knocked back take magic damage and deal the same amount of damage to other enemies they collide with." I guess the damage is only applied once, be it from the spell or from collision, and is the E damage. Also spell shields block her ult entirely, rather than only one sphere.
Against a target with 42 MR, assuming that you know you're going to hit a bind, lay down your pool before the bind hits, and then start your ultimate when they have taken two stacks of the MR debuff from pool (takes a second for you to walk into range to ulti, enough time for pool to tick twice), W max does more damage than going 3 points in W then maxing Q (W indirectly increases Q damage since W ticks once before Q hits). Since you're guaranteed three ticks of pool if you pool before the Q lands and probably 4 if you pooled with them in the middle with the slow from your ultimate, the extra MR shred coupled with the second tick of Morg ulti makes W maxing more effective than Q max. Even if W only ticks the 3 times, it'll be pretty even with Q max. 4 times and it's straight up better in all scenarios.
I'll try and dig up the numbers if anyone wants them after I get out off school but if you're willing to do the math yourself, you'll wind up with the same result.
tl;dr, max W. The quartersecond extra bind time doesn't matter and neither does the damage increase. You vet more damage out of maxing w first.
I've always gone Q > E > W -> Max R, W, Q, E. I feel like getting e level 2 is so important for deflecting cheesy level 2 jungler ganks and I never use 1st rank W period . I feel like getting level 5 W asap is important so you can farm a wave immediately -> gank. Sometimes I max E second if I am against a tough AP lane like LeBlanc where I actually need to conserve my HP by shielding their burst.
On September 14 2012 01:17 Bladeorade wrote: Morgana isn't even that strong.
Yeah she has her strengths but she isnt 1st pick/ban material
She is at 1k elo. Though it's gotten better; I barely see any bitching about Kassadin and Shaco now.
Which is funny, because Morg doesn't snowball nearly as hard as either of those.
I don't think Morg is that OP at all. It's just she farms well easily and has Black Shield to escape ganks pretty easily.
Shaco still ban worthy imo, it's just stupid having to deal with his ganks, at any elo, it's more of a "I don't really want to deal with this shit" ban. Morgana bans at elo are more of a "She's easy to play, and hard to fuck up, ergo don't want to deal with that shit."
Honestly, I'm more afraid of Maokai and Lee Sin. They're a lot more useful later and their ganks are just as scary.
About Morgana she's scary in the right hands, but most people that I see play her end up with like 120 CS at 20 minutes and miss every Q.
I tend to pick Morgana just about every time she's open.
She's been my favorite champion ever since IEM last year when I saw someone playing her and I bought her right away. It makes me really sad when I see people play her like that. The worst is when you can tell they're maxxing R > Q > W > E or R > Q > E > W instead of R > W > Q > E/ E > Q
I just love playing Morgana/Ahri because it makes me feel like I can be so much more aggressive in lane with less risk. Such a good feeling.
I actually bought Morgana recently just so I can first pick her for my team if necessary; I should try playing her, especially because I consider mid to be my worst role.
I feel like morg is kind of like a crutch for mid lane. Like yeah she can play mid. Pretty safely and aggressively at the same time too. But I don't feel like a better mid because of it.
I don't see Morg as much of a crutch, but more of a powerful learning tool.
She's got a well balanced skillset that can teach you a lot about playing Mid lane. She can farm well, push well, roam well, teamfight well, provided you play correctly.
That's just the problem. Why learn lane dynamics when you're immune to ganks and burst? Why bother learning mana management when you use W every time it's off cooldown? Why bother learning to dodge skillshots when you can block most of it and then sustain the rest? Why try to learn how to skillshot when you can flash ult your opponent and QW for good burst when they're stunned?
If I understand well, season 2 reward are based on the best elo you have achieved ?
On September 13 2012 11:09 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm inspired to do the capri sun challenge now.
Watching this video made me sad for Westrice considering he was in curse video like two weeks ago. Being mate with SaintVincent is not good for you man.
Also, Salce throwing up is not really glamour man.
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