EPT[Patch 1.0.0.147: Syndra] General Discussion - Page 133
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:31 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Soraka looks INCREDIBLE now. I might actually pick her up again O.O Wow didnt even see the new soraka till I saw your post. She does look pretty incredible. They do a good job with updating the way champs looks and feel.  Still waiting for the BattleCast Skarner | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On September 21 2012 03:13 kainzero wrote: Or maybe they should give it true damage so it's actually worth using later on in the game. This game needs more true damage about as much as your computer needs lava poured on it. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:29 Sufficiency wrote: I am very tempted to refund my Exalted Cassiopeia to get Bloodlord Vladimir... then I looked at his new win %.... meh.... How the fuck is that an argument for anything? Vlad's not winning many games in general, so what? Doesn't mean you can't learn him and crush everything | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:50 Craton wrote: Soraka not hunchbacked enough. This game needs more true damage about as much as your computer needs lava poured on it. If that somehow happens I'm pretty sure I get to replace this shitty computer of mine. So pour away! On September 21 2012 08:29 Sufficiency wrote: I am very tempted to refund my Exalted Cassiopeia to get Bloodlord Vladimir... then I looked at his new win %.... meh.... I don't see how this equates to you not wanting to play a champion you like. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:54 BlackPaladin wrote: If that somehow happens I'm pretty sure I get to replace this shitty computer of mine. So pour away! I don't see how this equates to you not wanting to play a champion you like. Because I am a tryhard and the only reason I would considering buying him is the rumour of his better auto animation. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:50 Craton wrote: This game needs more true damage about as much as your computer needs lava poured on it. what's wrong with true damage? who has true damage that people are actually concerned about? darius early game, vayne late game? corki all game? i mean they keep talking about the "sniper" feel of cait but it feels more like watching the secret service trying to take a bullet and seeing if they're incompetent or not. and it looks and feels like a shoulder rocket mounted launcher because it auto tracks and explodes. when i think of a sniper i think of being an annoying jerk that camps in a room with a window and kills people from far away. either that or AWPs from CS but i don't want cait pulling out her pistol after each ult. as far as the feeling of the ability would go... -true damage gives a "headshot" feel. -taking away laser sight gives the annoying "shoots me from far away" feel -penetration makes you really feel like you're handling a high powered rifle (though i'm aware that through-and-through is not necessarily good gun design) not that you should put all of these in the same ability but yeah. heck i think it'd be cool if she had a super high speed un-tracking projectile, true damage, no laser sight, global, 2-3 sec cast time, hits heros only, manual cast skillshot. almost similar to ez's ult but with more finesse and a focus on single target damage. again i'm just tossing this out there. i have no numbers or design or balance in mind. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:29 Sufficiency wrote: I am very tempted to refund my Exalted Cassiopeia to get Bloodlord Vladimir... then I looked at his new win %.... meh.... Vlad is so bad that Dyrus is no longer able to push top lane solo to their Nexus in about 15 minutes, winning the game. He now has to wait until 20, where they surrender. Or even wait until 22, after he aced them and pushed for the win. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
They have never had a single true damage ability that has been remotely balanced, especially true damage that scales. You cannot itemize against it. | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:28 kainzero wrote: + Show Spoiler + what's wrong with true damage? who has true damage that people are actually concerned about? darius early game, vayne late game? corki all game? i mean they keep talking about the "sniper" feel of cait but it feels more like watching the secret service trying to take a bullet and seeing if they're incompetent or not. and it looks and feels like a shoulder rocket mounted launcher because it auto tracks and explodes. when i think of a sniper i think of being an annoying jerk that camps in a room with a window and kills people from far away. either that or AWPs from CS but i don't want cait pulling out her pistol after each ult. as far as the feeling of the ability would go... -true damage gives a "headshot" feel. -taking away laser sight gives the annoying "shoots me from far away" feel -penetration makes you really feel like you're handling a high powered rifle (though i'm aware that through-and-through is not necessarily good gun design) not that you should put all of these in the same ability but yeah. heck i think it'd be cool if she had a super high speed un-tracking projectile, true damage, no laser sight, global, 2-3 sec cast time, hits heros only, manual cast skillshot. almost similar to ez's ult but with more finesse and a focus on single target damage. again i'm just tossing this out there. i have no numbers or design or balance in mind Yeah, but the thing that separates LoL from other games (like DotA), in terms of game design, is they generally go for interesting gameplay rather than whether mechanics are 'cool'. Caitlyn's ult, at present, has a lot of fun interplay, whereas 'the annoying "shoots me from far away" feel' is just that, annoying. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:51 Craton wrote: They have never had a single true damage ability that has been remotely balanced, especially true damage that scales. You cannot itemize against it. Warmogs Garen is pretty good against Darius. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:54 xes wrote: Warmogs Garen is pretty good against Darius. How? I just see Warmogs Garen pushed off the lane. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:51 Craton wrote: They have never had a single true damage ability that has been remotely balanced, especially true damage that scales. You cannot itemize against it. Health, in theory, is supposed to be the itemization for true damage. Doesn't work against Vayne, of course, but for Darius/Irelia/Corki, it's supposed to be health. In practice, it's not the best, but there you go. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:56 Shikyo wrote: How? I just see Warmogs Garen pushed off the lane. ho ho ho you haven't seen regen garen in action need 2 dorans shield first | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
240 hp regen 21 base 2183 hp base 2.5% hp per second passive 1.75% FoN =4.25% hp5 6350 hp warmogs total = 8533 hp =8783 hp with red pot =373 hp5 from % regen +261 hp5 =634 hp5 +264 hp5 from nash 898 hp5 +runes and masteries prolly around 920 hp5 total But with warmogs, fon, randuins and level 18 you get a pretty big portion of that. honestly you mostly want the regen for lane when it's efficient and after that you might pick up a fon against more poke damage and also you can abuse ending a teamfight with low hp or getting away and just run to farm a lane and then be at full hp again and 20 cs and a turret up vs their guys who just backed and walked back | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On September 21 2012 10:12 Requizen wrote: I know this is kind of nitpicky, but do you guys consider Rengar more of a bruiser or an assassin? I only ask because I can't play squishy champions for the life of me (assassins like Akali, Shaco, etc are my bane), but I like playing tough bruiser types, and I have 6300. Assassin 100%. | ||
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