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[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 59

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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 20 2012 10:42 GMT
#1161
Sometimes I get lots of dodges, sometimes I don't. If people want to be dodging I take it as a good thing considering now people can actually leave the queue because of trolls instead of automatically having to take a loss.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 20 2012 10:44 GMT
#1162
On August 20 2012 18:57 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 18:54 JackDino wrote:
On August 20 2012 18:51 TheKefka wrote:
It's the same shit with ranked these days.You can't get a game going without people dodging at least 1-2 times until you actually get a game.

And the new system makes ite ven worse, sat in ronked queue for 30mins once because people declined all teh time and dodged the queue.


Well, it's better that they decline there than that they leave 2 minutes into champ select or afk 20 minutes into the game with "afk,dinner" or such stuff.

How about they don't queue up at all if it's close to dinner time.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#1163
On August 20 2012 19:44 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 18:57 Morfildur wrote:
On August 20 2012 18:54 JackDino wrote:
On August 20 2012 18:51 TheKefka wrote:
It's the same shit with ranked these days.You can't get a game going without people dodging at least 1-2 times until you actually get a game.

And the new system makes ite ven worse, sat in ronked queue for 30mins once because people declined all teh time and dodged the queue.


Well, it's better that they decline there than that they leave 2 minutes into champ select or afk 20 minutes into the game with "afk,dinner" or such stuff.

How about they don't queue up at all if it's close to dinner time.



It'll never happen. People can convince themselves of anything. Including the idea that a game that can end in 20 minutes will end in 20 minutes.

The harder part is them convincing their mother to make dinner wait since they are in a game.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 11:23:23
August 20 2012 11:05 GMT
#1164
http://ko.twitch.tv/nicegametv

rematch between clg and iG. iG is behind in kills but ahead in Gold

That Vladi bait was genius! Zhonyas and pool bait really nice

First game goes to iG. CLG did some nice plays with zilean and skarner to grab somebody and focus him down but sometimes iG countered the attack with a well placed stun on skarner.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 11:36:45
August 20 2012 11:31 GMT
#1165
On August 20 2012 19:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Sometimes I get lots of dodges, sometimes I don't. If people want to be dodging I take it as a good thing considering now people can actually leave the queue because of trolls instead of automatically having to take a loss.


I've seen a bunch of trolls locking in obv trollpicks and summoners just because they didn't get what they wanted, litterally forcing the others to dodge the q. q dodgeing is a nice to have feature for ranked but the wrong ppl get the 30min penalty. To make it fair there should be a restart/kickvote or something similar with a rule like this: if you start a kickvote and it is not successfull you cannot kickvote anymore for 1 week. Duos get only 1 vote (yes/no/nothing) and you only need 3 votes to restart the q with a kick when there is a duo team. A kicked player gets a 5min break. The chance that a system like this gets abused is very unlikely since most ppl are nice anyways. It's really just the one guy who has a bad day and is pulling everyone down.

oh and when we're at it: show the elo and link to the profile of the players and also mark duoQers. Alot of ppl are using lolking/similar anyway to check the profiles of ppl. And spotting duoQers from the get go is also important IMO. When I'am duoing with a low elo friend then I would say it in chat so ppl are aware of it, but alot of ppl don't do that for some reason, despite the fact that you likely get harder opponents or as well a duo team. This would solve alot of problems that come with duo ranked play.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 11:42:50
August 20 2012 11:34 GMT
#1166
On August 20 2012 20:05 Chexx wrote:
http://ko.twitch.tv/nicegametv

rematch between clg and iG. iG is behind in kills but ahead in Gold

That Vladi bait was genius! Zhonyas and pool bait really nice

First game goes to iG. CLG did some nice plays with zilean and skarner to grab somebody and focus him down but sometimes iG countered the attack with a well placed stun on skarner.


Jiji had some nice ults and speed ups with W on several team members that were out of position and saved their life. I also liked the "bomb play" where he puts the bomb on diving Jax / Skarner to hit 3+ people when they were grouped up.
However, his damage was lacking because of his weak performance in lane (as usually).

Voyboy lost by 90 CS to the enemy Vlad and could never really catch up. As usual.

Only lane winning was DL + Chauster again (no surprise though) but they couldn't carry hard enough vs. "a must focus late game" Vladimir and a super tanky "never going to die" Cho'gath.

€dit: G2 CLG picks good old TRONDNOMERE!

On August 20 2012 20:31 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:42 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Sometimes I get lots of dodges, sometimes I don't. If people want to be dodging I take it as a good thing considering now people can actually leave the queue because of trolls instead of automatically having to take a loss.


I've seen a bunch of trolls locking in obv trollpicks and summoners just because they didn't get what they wanted, litterally forcing the others to dodge the q. q dodgeing is a nice to have feature for ranked but the wrong ppl get the 30min penalty. To make it fair there should be a restart/kickvote or something similar with a rule like this: if you start a kickvote and it is not successfull you cannot kickvote anymore for 1 week. Duos get only 1 vote (yes/no/nothing) and you only need 3 votes to restart the q with a kick when there is a duo team. A kicked player gets a 5min break. The chance that a system like this gets abused is very unlikely since most ppl are nice anyways. It's really just the one guy who has a bad day and is pulling everyone down.


Yes, this is pretty sad. The option to dodge without ELO loss is only an ultima ratio (last resort) solution if you really expect shit to go down (for example when 3 or more people blame each other from pregame chat on and you see Heimerdinger, Twitch and Evelyn in the same team with a lot of different summoner spells) because 30 minutes is pretty harsh.

The problem is that the nice guys really try in ranked and care about the ELO whereas the frustrated trolls have already given up because they kinda realized they suck and don't care anymore, so the choice between to either "play or wait" will always be answered with "play and surrender at 20 i troll".

Oh, and as long as you are not a pro player that can 1v5 the enemy team you just can't ignore the trolls. If you play at a 1400ish level you will not be able to carry 2 trolls and an afker at 1000-1200 ELO.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 11:43:27
August 20 2012 11:42 GMT
#1167
Bans
iG: Anivia, Gragas, Alistar
CLG: Shen, Vladimir, Malphite

Picks
iG: Sona, Skarner, Corki, Riven and Karthus
CLG: Lulu, Nocturne, Orianna, Ezreal and Tryndamere

voyboy playing teleport, ghost tryndamere I have never seen tryndamere in a professional enviroment
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
August 20 2012 11:44 GMT
#1168
God I hope they nerf corki and ezreal, getting really boring just having those 2 ad carries in every damn game :/
KCCO!
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 20 2012 11:44 GMT
#1169
That tryndamere pick. First time seeing him in forever
Porouscloud - NA LoL
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 11:51:03
August 20 2012 11:49 GMT
#1170
I swear, it's almost impossible to play normals with my friends now. Almost every normal I play has 2+ plat players in them and honestly, my normals are harder than my ranked at this point. I queue up with one 1400 friend and our team elos are, 1778, 1780, 1480, 1500, and unranked. Their team is 2300 2200 1970 1950 and 1700. Normal elo too high?
BW -> League -> CSGO
little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 20 2012 11:53 GMT
#1171
On August 20 2012 20:44 ihasaKAROT wrote:
God I hope they nerf corki and ezreal, getting really boring just having those 2 ad carries in every damn game :/


The only thing that might need a maybe slight nerf is Ez W.

I rather feel that these days pro ad carry players feel just so comfortable with these two. In addition, both are pretty strong laners and relatively safe picks when you don't know what you're up against so they are the choices to go.

But this is nothing to worry about IMO, before those two it was Graves + Blitz / Taric you almost always saw every game. And before that, Urgot / Kog'maw + Soraka / Janna where the most common picks (nerfs to all these were pretty small and sometimes even reverted in Kog's and Urgot's cases).
Oh, and don't forget when Chaox said "MF IS OP!!!" and everybody ran her.

Granted, the standard Ez vs Corki matchup doesn't look too interesting, but I guess that in a few weeks other AD carries will be picked more frequently.

Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 20 2012 11:56 GMT
#1172
Skarner getting really, really far behind now. Warded noct red buff and missmited, after camping there for like 2 minutes.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 20 2012 11:59 GMT
#1173
On August 20 2012 20:56 Amui wrote:
Skarner getting really, really far behind now. Warded noct red buff and missmited, after camping there for like 2 minutes.


Jiji an Voyboy both laning better than last game.

I don't really understand why they're trying to gank riven though.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 20 2012 12:00 GMT
#1174
doublelift losing lane thats rare
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 20 2012 12:09 GMT
#1175
Wow CLG getting wrecked.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 20 2012 12:09 GMT
#1176
Karthus. Press E run into enemy team :D
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22068 Posts
August 20 2012 12:10 GMT
#1177
I really dont get why you would pick trynd for this. He eats 1 exhaust and is useless for the entire fight.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 20 2012 12:10 GMT
#1178
lol karthus is just broken for competitive play, also voyboy did absolutely nothing in that fight with trynd
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
August 20 2012 12:13 GMT
#1179
Lawl,trynda is so bad XD
Cackle™
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 20 2012 12:13 GMT
#1180
On August 20 2012 21:10 kongoline wrote:
lol karthus is just broken for competitive play, also voyboy did absolutely nothing in that fight with trynd


They probably think trynd is a good pick vs Karthus with his ult negating Karthus ult and stuff.

But yeah, 1 exhaust and trynd is useless for a teamfight.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
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