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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 24 2012 01:25 GMT
#2521
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de ban me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked


You have a hidden Normal Elo. Occasionally Riot makes a change and it appears in the log files or in the client somewhere and people poke at it, but most of the time you can't tell what it is.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 01:55:20
August 24 2012 01:54 GMT
#2522
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de report me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked

There is a hidden ELO but many people don't care about winning that much in normals.

Edit.. ninjad
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:01:14
August 24 2012 02:00 GMT
#2523
Unranked has hidden MMR, yes. If you're consistently getting teammates going hecarim/sin bot lane that's because the system believes you are as bad as they are.

YOU NINJAS

In other words playing ranked won't help you at all, if anything ranked players are more uptight while still being just as bad.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:11:49
August 24 2012 02:11 GMT
#2524
Honestly if you're playing at a level where things like Hecarim/Lee Sin bot is common I would probably put more weight in the Hecarim/Lee Sin lane than the people running a "standard" bot lane.

It really doesn't matter what lane compositions you do if everyone in the game is bad.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 24 2012 02:20 GMT
#2525
On August 24 2012 08:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 07:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
why do you wrench if you don't get lootz? Are you angling for a job or something or do you want community recognition or what?

I just do it because I like helping people lol. A lot like most of the other Wrenches.


It just seems so thankless. Like you are basically the lol equivalent of mtg judges and those guys get showered with game rewards and sometimes hired.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 24 2012 02:24 GMT
#2526
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de report me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked

It's not even a solution.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 24 2012 02:25 GMT
#2527
On August 24 2012 11:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 08:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 24 2012 07:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
why do you wrench if you don't get lootz? Are you angling for a job or something or do you want community recognition or what?

I just do it because I like helping people lol. A lot like most of the other Wrenches.


It just seems so thankless. Like you are basically the lol equivalent of mtg judges and those guys get showered with game rewards and sometimes hired.

the loot that mtg judges get is still pretty small time compared to the amount of work they put in. unless their pay scale went way the hell up in the last 4-5 years.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 24 2012 02:29 GMT
#2528
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de report me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked


Double bruiser bot is actually pretty viable at low levels... just work around it and put an ad mid and a safe ap top
Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
August 24 2012 02:31 GMT
#2529
Play ARAM, other team gets ZionSpartan, he dodges at champ select.

Tourney players no respect for the community and unwritten ARAM rules! Rawrglebargle. (I was prepping my team on skype with info about how likely he was to decimate us)
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 24 2012 02:32 GMT
#2530
On August 24 2012 11:25 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 11:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2012 08:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 24 2012 07:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
why do you wrench if you don't get lootz? Are you angling for a job or something or do you want community recognition or what?

I just do it because I like helping people lol. A lot like most of the other Wrenches.


It just seems so thankless. Like you are basically the lol equivalent of mtg judges and those guys get showered with game rewards and sometimes hired.

the loot that mtg judges get is still pretty small time compared to the amount of work they put in. unless their pay scale went way the hell up in the last 4-5 years.


Well of course. Wizards isn't employing a gigantic floating staff. But it shows appreciation and gives incentives to keep up the good work.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:45:30
August 24 2012 02:41 GMT
#2531
On August 24 2012 11:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 08:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 24 2012 07:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
why do you wrench if you don't get lootz? Are you angling for a job or something or do you want community recognition or what?

I just do it because I like helping people lol. A lot like most of the other Wrenches.


It just seems so thankless. Like you are basically the lol equivalent of mtg judges and those guys get showered with game rewards and sometimes hired.

Hm. Yeh, I guess it's kinda thankless lol. But I'm nothing compared to a lot of the other Wrenches. Boompje is the guy in charge of the unofficial Mac Client. Which means he always needs to recompile and rewrite the code to make sure it's compatible with every game update. There's a few other Senior Wrenches that do stuff but it's confidential. But they're really, really talented.

That being said, being a Wrench does help if you apply to Riot since they you already and you tend to have good working relationships. There's quite a few Wrenches who ended up being converted to Red. But that's not something I'm interested in.

On August 24 2012 11:25 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 11:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2012 08:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 24 2012 07:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
why do you wrench if you don't get lootz? Are you angling for a job or something or do you want community recognition or what?

I just do it because I like helping people lol. A lot like most of the other Wrenches.


It just seems so thankless. Like you are basically the lol equivalent of mtg judges and those guys get showered with game rewards and sometimes hired.

the loot that mtg judges get is still pretty small time compared to the amount of work they put in. unless their pay scale went way the hell up in the last 4-5 years.

Iirc the standard is a Box of Boosters for a PTQ-level of event and occasionally a few Judge Promos depending on your judge level. For Regular REL such as FNM events it depends on the organiser. Could be anything from completely voluntary to some store credit based upon hrs worked or the number of players.

On August 24 2012 11:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 11:25 Mogwai wrote:
On August 24 2012 11:20 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 24 2012 08:48 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On August 24 2012 07:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
why do you wrench if you don't get lootz? Are you angling for a job or something or do you want community recognition or what?

I just do it because I like helping people lol. A lot like most of the other Wrenches.


It just seems so thankless. Like you are basically the lol equivalent of mtg judges and those guys get showered with game rewards and sometimes hired.

the loot that mtg judges get is still pretty small time compared to the amount of work they put in. unless their pay scale went way the hell up in the last 4-5 years.


Well of course. Wizards isn't employing a gigantic floating staff. But it shows appreciation and gives incentives to keep up the good work.

From what I've heard at least, Wizards is a pretty good company and treats their staff and affiliates well. If I do go back to playing MtG when RtR comes out, I might actually apply for Level 1.

On August 24 2012 11:29 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de report me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked


Double bruiser bot is actually pretty viable at low levels... just work around it and put an ad mid and a safe ap top

Best to do this duo-queue though so the bot lane understands each other. At low levels, AD carries don't know how to poke and punish positioning with harass in lane very well. Like, when you try to zone with a bruiser, you open yourself up to being harassed since the melee v range thing requires you to go all in. And if they can kite you, it really hurts. Also remember. You don't need an AD to take down towers if the enemy is all dead and can't defend anyway.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17300 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 02:48:10
August 24 2012 02:46 GMT
#2532
My favorite part about Rengar is when you stealth, run faster than anything else in the game, leap for 300-400 damage, then auto attack the carry for 1600 damage, killing them instantly before they know you're there.

Pretty cool champ.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
August 24 2012 02:52 GMT
#2533
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de report me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked

Ranked is no guarantee you won't get idiots. That said, while teams should try to work out a composition that goes together, demanding that your teammates play particular champs just means you're making an arse of youself. If you continued to harass them about it, you may well have deserved getting reported.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 24 2012 02:55 GMT
#2534
On August 24 2012 11:46 Craton wrote:
My favorite part about Rengar is when you stealth, run faster than anything else in the game, leap for 300-400 damage, then auto attack the carry for 1600 damage, killing them instantly before they know you're there.

Pretty cool champ.


My favourite part about Rengar is when the other team picks him and I know I'll probably gain elo. Hue.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17300 Posts
August 24 2012 03:02 GMT
#2535
On August 24 2012 11:52 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de report me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked

Ranked is no guarantee you won't get idiots. That said, while teams should try to work out a composition that goes together, demanding that your teammates play particular champs just means you're making an arse of youself. If you continued to harass them about it, you may well have deserved getting reported.

More of a guarantee you will than won't.

Normals is mostly people who don't give a fuck (hi 5 smite teams) and won't ever play support.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 24 2012 03:15 GMT
#2536
On August 24 2012 11:46 Craton wrote:
My favorite part about Rengar is when you stealth, run faster than anything else in the game, leap for 300-400 damage, then auto attack the carry for 1600 damage, killing them instantly before they know you're there.

Pretty cool champ.

yeah, he is super cool. his whole concept and execution were really well done imo.

what items are you building?
Omer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Israel442 Posts
August 24 2012 03:16 GMT
#2537
I just got a 27 MB patch randomally, anyone else get this?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 24 2012 03:26 GMT
#2538
On August 24 2012 10:22 xOny wrote:
is the only solution to getting matched with complete retards playing ranked games? I'm level 30 and i'm in a game with lee sin / hecarim bot. when I told them not too, they said they'de ban me. i get games like this 90% of the time...

just don't want to play ranked yet as I'm new (but not a retard). guess i was wondering if there is a hidden MMR system at level 30 unranked


It's the opposite for me. I'm always matched with really good players in normals and have a ridiculous amount of retards (ragers) in my ranked games lol.
BW -> League -> CSGO
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 24 2012 03:26 GMT
#2539
On August 24 2012 12:16 Omer wrote:
I just got a 27 MB patch randomally, anyone else get this?

just curious, but what do u think the lol client is doing, exactly, installing a virus?

i just find it weird when ppl ask this question
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17300 Posts
August 24 2012 03:27 GMT
#2540
Probably fixed the IP display bug.
twitch.tv/cratonz
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